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Originally posted by bl4ke360
Originally posted by charles1952
Will Ron Paul supporters vote for Romney if he turns out to be the only candidate in a position to beat Obama?
What would the point be, they're practically the same person. Most Ron Paul supporters aren't sellouts either so the answer is no.edit on 4/30/2012 by bl4ke360 because: (no reason given)
Take tax policy, for starters. Ronald Reagan, concerned about runaway deficits, raised taxes seven of the eight years he was in office. George H.W. Bush famously broke his “no new taxes” pledge in 1991 in order to help keep the nation’s fiscal house in relative order. George W. Bush broke new ground — Americans have never seen a chief executive launch wars and cut taxes at the same time — and left the nation with a $10 trillion debt. But Romney, instead of learning lessons from the Bush era, is eager to push the fiscal envelope past the breaking point. The former governor has presented a plan that not only makes all of the Bush tax cuts permanent, he also demands a 20% across-the-board cut on top of the already-lower rates. “Romney’s plan is George W. Bush’s plan on steroids," David Cay Johnston, a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter, recently explained.
On education, the presumptive GOP nominee has encouraged students worried about rising tuition rates to simply “shop around” for a college they can afford — perhaps decent advice, because a Romney administration would cut Pell Grants and dramatically scale back the federal role in helping young Americans afford higher education. Such measures would have been considered ridiculous under Reagan and the Bushes. The list goes on. Modern Republican Presidents supported Planned Parenthood funding; Romney has vowed to “get rid of” the women’s health and abortion rights organization. Recent GOP heads of state left the U.S. Constitution alone; Romney has endorsed a constitutional amendment to prevent same-sex marriage. Bush signed McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform into law; Romney opposes practically all efforts to curtail the influence of money in politics.
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by captaintyinknots
What makes you guys shills is that you don't believe Ron Paul has a chance yet you still troll pro Ron Paul threads to argue. If you don't think he has a chance why waste your time? Ron Paul supporters don't troll the Obama threads (not that there are in since we have all seen who he really is in the last four years).
Originally posted by rival
Ron Paul is the only candidate I will back in this election, period.
Mitt Romney is an establishment candidate who is purposefully being "propped up" as a straw man
for Obama to knock down. The recent race-baiting in the MSM creates a scenario where Romney
can be dismantled with ONE question:
Mr. Romney, as a Mormon, can you explain your church's view of the black race, and
whether or not you believe a black person can, or should be president?
And Romney implodes....Obama gets another four years.
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Even if I'm wrong, neither Obama or Romney will fix our economic problems. One the one hand
Obama has proven to be the MOST fiscally irresponsible president ever, increasing the American
debt-load more than any predecessor...by FAR. And from the example you post of Romney his
fiscal stance certainly doesn't bode well for the American economy either.
...Obama or Romney..... or tails, we all lose.
No, it is time to put partisanship aside. Forget right versus left...
It is US VERSUS THEM....the people versus corporations and banks...David versus Goliath
We are the underdogs....and I am rooting FOR US, fighting FOR US, and doing my best to
enlighten others to the predicament we are in. We have to stop the ridiculous infighting....
...the enemy is without, not within
Originally posted by rival
TextYour "US" only constitutes 10% so what you are really saying is..... Your insignificant minority wants to railroad your agenda over the majority.
Who says ten percent? I didn't...
The MSM lies. Believe of it what you want...I trust this poll more than any MSM poll...
Early reports indicate that Paul’s campaign won 5 of the 6 Congressional Districts in the Saturday, April 28 statewide vote, with a sixth district still up in the air. Analysis of the results estimates that upwards of 70% of the delegates to the Louisiana Republican Convention held in Shreveport, LA on June 2 will be composed entirely Ron Paul supporters. The delegates at the state convention then choose the majority of the delefates that get sent to the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Florida later this summer.
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The Louisiana results illustrate yet another example of a regular trend for this campaign cycle – Paul fairs well in the popular vote by usually taking second or third place and occasionally first, but then dominates the delegate process. As delegates are the ultimate decider of whom the party’s nominee will be, this technique was precisely the technique successfully used by President Obama’s 2008 campaign to defeat Hilary Clinton. As late as May 2008, then Senator Obama was still being referred to as unelectable in the media, until his delegate strategy started to show clear results.
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Originally posted by TinfoilTP
All that poll tells me is there will be a lot of disapointed people on ATS for their lack of denying ignorance.
Originally posted by rival
Originally posted by bl4ke360
Originally posted by charles1952
Will Ron Paul supporters vote for Romney if he turns out to be the only candidate in a position to beat Obama?
What would the point be, they're practically the same person. Most Ron Paul supporters aren't sellouts either so the answer is no.
Absolutely!
I'm an avid Ron Paul supporter and I see both Mitt Romney and Obama as nothing more than
two heads of the same coin.
The thing with most Ron Paul supporters (I believe) is that we don't buy into the two party system
paradigm. It is no longer left versus right, or conservative versus liberal.
The entire American ship is sinking and the two party system has us quibbling over details
and placing blame while the ship goes down. The Ron Paulites are shoving those people out of
the way and manning the bucket lines and fixing the hole.
I don't think I'm alone either, I'd like to hear other Paul supporters chime in. I will not vote for
Obama or Romney.
My Paul vote may be my last vote...if we can't push him thru to a win.
Barefoot's World Website
"If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them." [Journal of the Senate]
Originally posted by DrEugeneFixer
reply to post by GogoVicMorrow
Can't run a newsletter - can't run a country. Period. Why do you feel the need to make excuses for every vile thing that Ron Paul has published?
Originally posted by Propulsion
RP will become the POTUS....
...And you would consider Obama or mittens instead? If so, "why"?
Originally posted by DrEugeneFixer
reply to post by Propulsion
Originally posted by Propulsion
RP will become the POTUS....
...And you would consider Obama or mittens instead? If so, "why"?
Absolutely: Obama is head and shoulders above Ron Paul in every way.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by autowrench
lets not forget, Rp is an OBGYN that is NOT FOR WOMENS REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. Does that not bring his character into question?
Originally posted by bl4ke360
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by autowrench
lets not forget, Rp is an OBGYN that is NOT FOR WOMENS REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. Does that not bring his character into question?
Because someone thinks abortion is wrong it somehow means their character is bad? That's what you're saying? I don't quite understand your logic, or rather your absence of logic.
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by bl4ke360
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by autowrench
lets not forget, Rp is an OBGYN that is NOT FOR WOMENS REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. Does that not bring his character into question?
Because someone thinks abortion is wrong it somehow means their character is bad? That's what you're saying? I don't quite understand your logic, or rather your absence of logic.
ahh yes, another ad hom from a cultist. Par for the course.
Any doctor who dedicates his life to women's health, yet doesnt think women should be able to make their own health-related decisions, has questionable character in my eyes. Not exactly rocket science.