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Jesus Said When He Would Return to the Day

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posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 09:43 PM
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You work so hard for his return,
when in your heart he is already there.
Your faith has healed you.
Spread the love.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by hounddoghowlie

Originally posted by Parture

The 3rd Temple will be completed by April 20, 2016, the 3rd day inspection of the lamb. There are 2300 days (Dan. 8.14) from April 21, 2016 to Aug. 7, 2022.

The middle of the Trib (Rev. 9.1) when the Antichrist stands in the 3rd Temple is Feb. 25, 2019.


so you expect me to believe that, in four years that one of the most holy spots for muslims, the place where they claim muhammad recived his visions, will be turn over to the israelites with out a world war erupting.

actuly it would have to be less than four years in order to give time for the temple to be built.

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I saw a video where it took only 2 years to build. And the Temple could be built right along side the Dome so that from the Holy of Holies through the gate points directly to the mount of olives.
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posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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I guess that leaves the only question,,
HOW WILL GOD JUDGE
the tribes/nations/peoples??
Before Jesus get's here?
Like you said GOD,
judgement day,, no man, nor angel nor anything created, knows that
HOUR,
but it will surely come.

Which begs the question,,,,
How big a mess will Jesus
have too clean up?
Me.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by Wildmanimal
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You work so hard for his return,
when in your heart he is already there.
Your faith has healed you.
Spread the love.

You're confusing Christ in me now by the Holy Spirit and Jesus the Person when He returns just as He left (Zech. 14.4, Acts 1.11, Rev. 1.7).



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by MNnativeamer
In my opinion, if anybody walked up to any of you ppl waiting for him to return, even if he had scars in the palm of his hands, you ppl would NOT believe that person 100% of the time. Guaranteed. You would think this person making these claims is crazy and u would laugh in there face so I think it's a big waste of time.
Unless a caucasian man, in a white robe floats down from the sky on a cloud, glowing, maybe the crown of thorns on his head, completely ripped like he's been working out in the gym, then you ppl will not believe that person claiming to be Jesus. Lets be honest, that situation doesn't seem like it will happen.
The Bible or whatever you read is flawed and not accurate.....BIG TIME.
Ive read the bible 4 times in my life and it just confused me a little more each time.
Reading that bible is how I came to the conclusion there is no invisible man in the sky watching out for us either.
All the people that want to quote the bible versus and act like you're a real godly person I doubt have even read that bible from start to finish every single word in it. I read it twice by the time I was in 8th grade, I had half of it memorized too but for ppl to use that book to guide their OWN lives is just crazy.

Jesus said we can know it is Him when He returns because the whole world will know it. Read Matt. 24.27,30 and Rev. 1.7.
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There is a difference between reading the Bible with your fleshly impatient selfish self and by the Holy Spirit.

Since nature can't start up by itself and there can't be an eternity of the past of cause and effects, because you would have happened already having had an eternity to do so, realize the uncreated Creator exists.
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posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by Parture

The 3rd Temple will be completed by April 20, 2016, the 3rd day inspection of the lamb. There are 2300 days (Dan. 8.14) from April 21, 2016 to Aug. 7, 2022.

The middle of the Trib (Rev. 9.1) when the Antichrist stands in the 3rd Temple is Feb. 25, 2019.


This is not biblical at all. Show me one verse that says there will be a 3rd Temple built? Do not be fooled! Read your bible instead of listening to traditions of men! The third temple has been here since Jesus went up to the Father and the Holy Ghost came down to us!

Notice that we are the temple of God for anyone who believes in Jesus, is baptized in Jesus's name, confesses that Jesus Christ is Lord and repents of there sins has the Holy Ghost in them.

Jesus said in Matthew 26:61 "And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days. "

Jesus said in Mark 14:58 "We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands. "

John 2: "19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? 21But he spake of the temple of his body."

Acts 17:24 "God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;"

1 Corinthians 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?" 17 "If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are."

1 Corinthians 6:19 "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?"

2 Corinthians 6:16 "And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people."

Everything that I read in the bible tells me that we are the temple of God because God dwells in us. He is our God and we are His people! The word of God is completely contrary to any physically built temple that has been taught through the generations. Wake up and read your bible!



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by NoSoup4U
This is not biblical at all. Show me one verse that says there will be a 3rd Temple built? Do not be fooled! Read your bible instead of listening to traditions of men! The third temple has been here since Jesus went up to the Father and the Holy Ghost came down to us!

Notice that we are the temple of God for anyone who believes in Jesus, is baptized in Jesus's name, confesses that Jesus Christ is Lord and repents of there sins has the Holy Ghost in them.

Jesus said in Matthew 26:61 "And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days. "

Jesus said in Mark 14:58 "We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands. "

John 2: "19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? 21But he spake of the temple of his body."

Acts 17:24 "God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;"

1 Corinthians 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?" 17 "If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are."

1 Corinthians 6:19 "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?"

2 Corinthians 6:16 "And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people."

Everything that I read in the bible tells me that we are the temple of God because God dwells in us. He is our God and we are His people! The word of God is completely contrary to any physically built temple that has been taught through the generations. Wake up and read your bible!

2 Thess. 2.4 and Rev. 11.2. Obviously we are temples of God but the Temples spoken of in these 2 verses are physical structures.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by Parture



I saw a video where it took only 2 years to build. And the Temple could be built right along side the Dome so that from the Holy of Holies through the gate points directly to the mount of olives.
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yea i'm sure God would be okay with that, seeing how he always had israel tear down the asherah poles, baal temple or any other worship sight.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 09:54 PM
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posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by hounddoghowlie

Originally posted by Parture



I saw a video where it took only 2 years to build. And the Temple could be built right along side the Dome so that from the Holy of Holies through the gate points directly to the mount of olives.
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yea i'm sure God would be okay with that, seeing how he always had israel tear down the asherah poles, baal temple or any other worship sight.

He is not ok with it, but Rev. 11.2 says don't measure the outer court during the Tribulation. Obviously when Jesus steps down on the mount of olives He will have the Dome destroyed if not before then.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by Parture
2 Thess. 2.4 and Rev. 11.2. Obviously we are temples of God but the Temples spoken of in these 2 verses are physical structures.


Ummm. I just showed you that we are the temple of God. That definitely applies to 2 Thessalonians 2:4. The majority of Revelation is figurative language because it is in a vision. I can tell you more if you are willing to read it.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by NoSoup4U

Originally posted by Parture
2 Thess. 2.4 and Rev. 11.2. Obviously we are temples of God but the Temples spoken of in these 2 verses are physical structures.


Ummm. I just showed you that we are the temple of God. That definitely applies to 2 Thessalonians 2:4. The majority of Revelation is figurative language because it is in a vision. I can tell you more if you are willing to read it.

2 Thess. 2.4 is definite not referring to our temples, nor is Rev. 11.2. 2 Thess. 2.3,4 says, "Man of sin be revealed...sits in the temple...claims to be God". He is not sitting in the Temple now, but the evil spirit is in the spirit of unbelievers now.

Revelation is mostly literal. There are 30 symbols half of which are explained right in the text, so that leaves less than 1 symbol per chapter. The other 15 symbols are easy enough to discern from other books of the Bible.

I understand every line of Revelation. If you need help, I am here for you.
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posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 10:21 PM
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i'm sorry but i have to agree with the op about the thrid temple.
if the thrid temple is not built , how do you explain the animal sacrifice in Dan 9 27. or the wing in which he sets up the abomination.
and futher more, if i'm a temple how does the antichrist claim to be God through me unless i allow it.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
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i'm sorry but i have to agree with the op about the thrid temple.
if the thrid temple is not built , how do you explain the animal sacrifice in Dan 9 27. or the wing in which he sets up the abomination.
and futher more, if i'm a temple how does the antichrist claim to be God through me unless i allow it.


Amen.
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You have the Holy Spirit in your spirit so the evil spirit can't enter your spirit now for the Holy Spirit operates there deeply when you were born-again.
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posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 10:27 PM
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I admit it is disconcerting the construction on the 3rd Temple hasn't begun yet, but if construction begins early next year that still leaves at least 3 years to build it still so it is completed by April 20, 2016 (3rd day inspection of the lamb) with 2300 days from April 21, 2016 (4th day inspection) to Tisha B'Av Aug. 7, 2022.
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posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 10:30 PM
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Imagine how strange that would be with the two Tetrads 1949/50 and 1967/68 (never before in history closer than 18 years apart) then nothing happens 2014/15 (8th since Christ) especially considering the next one is not till 2582/83.

This is why I am 100% certain.
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posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 10:31 PM
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the way i see it, the way things are shaping up in the world time is short.
the only thing lacking is the construction of the temple and i think then we
will see all things start to fall into place.



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
the way i see it, the way things are shaping up in the world time is short.
the only thing lacking is the construction of the temple and i think then we
will see all things start to fall into place.

Yes.

Perhaps the Dollar breaking new lows and the implant under the skin becoming really popular to buy and sell stuff.
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It's all so obvious for us Christians to see. Not so easy to understand for those who are not born-again.
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posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
how do you explain the animal sacrifice in Dan 9 27....


The 70 Weeks is divided into three sections: Seven Weeks, Sixty-two Weeks and One Week. Let’s look at the 69 weeks first. To whom are they addressed and what are they about? They are to the Jews, and about Jerusalem. What does v. 24 tell us will be accomplished in those 69 sevens?

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Daniel 9
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
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When will they take place, and what is the time frame? We are told to start counting time after a decree is sent out to restore Jerusalem. A special decree was granted by Artaxerxes I to Nehemiah (444-445BC). This is the ONLY decree recorded in the Bible that gave the Jews permission to “restore Jerusalem and rebuild its walls,” and since Scripture relates to Scripture, we should start counting time from that biblical decree.

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7 WEEKS CONVERSION
(7 weeks) X (7 Days) = 49 days
Levitical to Solar Conversion = (49 days) X (.9857) = 48.3 days
1 year for 1 day Conversion = (48.3 years)
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62 WEEKS CONVERSION
(62 weeks) X (7 Days) = 434 days
Levitical to Solar Conversion = (434 days) X (.9857) = 427.7 days
1 year for 1 day Conversion = (427.7 years)
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Now, lets add our conversions together to get the total for the 69 weeks.
(427.7) + (48.3) = 476 years

Now take the date when the decree was made to “restore Jerusalem and rebuild its walls, which was 445 B.C. or 444 B.C. and at the 476 years to it and see where in history we will end up at.

(444 B.C.) + (476 Years) = 32 A.D. (When Jesus Christ was crucified)

What about those six points that were supposed to be fulfilled during these 70 weeks?
All but one were fulfilled at the cross. Did not Jesus

(1) finish transgression eternally
(2) make an end of sin
(3) make reconciliation for iniquity
(4) bring in everlasting righteousness
(6) anoint the Most holy with His own precious blood

Point (5), however, was left out: “Seal up vision and prophecy.”

This is where those peculiar 7 weeks and 62 weeks come in. 7 x 7 Hebrew years = 48.3 Solar years. 444BC - 48.3 is 395.7 B.C., The Book of Malachi was written. Malachi was inspired to write the last book of the Old Testament in about 396BC. The Scripture to the Jews was complete, and no more was written until the New Testament era! So Old Testament vision and prophecy were indeed “sealed up.” As one dear Rabbi lamented in about 200BC, “The Holy Spirit has departed from Israel,” and until this very day, the Jews, as a nation, have not been permitted to see any further. The Lord has blinded their eyes so they could not recognize Jesus as their Messiah (Rom 11:8, 2Co 3:15).

Praise God!



posted on Apr, 25 2012 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
how do you explain the animal sacrifice in Dan 9 27. or the wing in which he sets up the abomination. and futher more, if i'm a temple how does the antichrist claim to be God through me unless i allow it.


Abomonation / Desolation
We will be talking about the Abomination of Desolation that Daniel prophesied about in Daniel 12:11. Lets take a look at that verse.

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Daniel 12:11
11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
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Anyone who believes in the the "7 Year Tribulation" also believes in a third temple being built and the "Anti-Christ" will go into the temple to be worshiped and that is the "Abomination that maketh Desolate". However, we should forget about John Darby's dispensation because it is a theory and is not support by scripture.

With that said, lets use the prophetic 1 Day equals 1 Year to decrypt this prophecy. 1290 days is what is prophesied in this verse, which is actually 1290 years according to God. When should this prophecy begin? Well, the verse tells us, "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away".

In 583 BC, the priests were taken captive by the Babylonians. There was no one left to make sacrifices. Therefore, this was the last time sacrifices were taken away from the temple. So, lets work out the prophesied 1290 days and see where it ends up.

(1290 Levitical Years) x (.9857 Solar Conversion) = 1271.55 Solar Days
(583 BC) + (1271 Solar Years) = 688 AD

What happened in 688 AD? Between 685 AD and 705 AD the third most Holiest Mosque was built on the Temple Mount. Abd el Malik ibn Marwan, built a memorial to Muhammad, the Dome of the Rock, on Gods temple mount!

The "Dome of the Rock" is the "Abomination that maketh Desolate".

Now we know that a person named the Anti-Christ is not what makes the Temple Mount Desolate nor is the Abomination of Desolation future tense. Therefore, it can not be a part of a FUTURE "7 Year Tribulation".

Praise God! It gets better! If that isn't enough proof for you, lets take a look at Revelation 11:2.
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Revelation 11:2
2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
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"In 685, the Moslem governor of Jerusalem, one Kalifah Abd el Malik ibd Marwan, began clearing the temple mount. He used the local people to do so, including the Christians and Jews still living in the city. When the bedrock was exposed, they found two solid rock promontories within 300 feet of each other. The one to the south they named as-Sakhra and over as-Sakhra they built the memorial to Muhammad, the Dome of the Rock, the actual construction of which began in 688."

"Over the other promontory, an unusually flat stone, to the north and slightly west of as-Sakhra a little, unimposing cupola was constructed they aptly named "The Dome of the Spirits" or "The Dome of the Tablets". Having no science of archaeology during those days, guess what? They built the "Dome of the Rock" in the wrong place."

In Revelation 11:2 tells us, "the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months". Lets start from when the "Dome of the Rock" was built (688 AD) and add the 42 months to that date and see what the end date is.

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Being that we are using a verse in the New Testament, there is no need for the conversion (.9857) because the New Testament was written in Greek which uses the Solar Calendar.

(356.24 Days) / (12 Months) = 30.44 Days per Month
(42 Months) x (30.44 Days) = 1279
(688 AD) + (1279) = 1967 AD

What happened in 1967 AD? Israel became a free nation after winning what is know as the 6-Day War. Guess what the Holy City had just stopped being "tread down by the Gentiles" when they won that war. Prophetic accuracy is awesome!

I have a blog concerning all this that I started back in 2008. You can go read some of this for yourself if you would like to.

castmycrown.blogspot.com...

God bless you and thank you for being nice and not loosing your temper!



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