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Jesus Said When He Would Return to the Day
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Since Jesus said we can know when He returns "right at the door" (Matt. 24.33) then how do we figure out when He returns?
Very simply He returns on the 2,520th day (end of Daniel's final seven) from when the Tribulation starts. 2,520 is the smallest number divisible by all numbers from 2 to 10 as a basic prophetic working unit, and it is 7 years x 360 days per year.
The last 3 feasts pertain to when Jesus returns. Feast of Trumpets (representing the first rapture according to readiness, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10 at 9.7 "before the throne") commences the 7 year Tribulation, and the 2,520th day must land on Tisha B'Av, the day the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed, for Jesus returns to reign in the 3rd Temple for 1000 years on earth with His overcomers. Not all who are saved receive this reward though all saved do get to enter the New City after the 1000 years. Consider this consequences for slothful Christians.
Furthermore, we know the "branch is tender" (Matt. 24.32) because Israel is a nation again and the Total Lunar Tetrads coincide with when Israel became a nation May 14, 1948 and entered Jerusalem June 7, 1967 as the signs in the heavens. The 8th feast Tetrad since Christ is 2014/15. And there are exactly 2,520 days from Sept. 14 Feast of Trumpets 2015 to Aug. 7 Tisha B'Av 2022. Not so for 2014-21 or 2016-23.
To further seal the deal, not that we need more proof, the 3 events that occur right before the Tribulation starts (Rev. 6.12) in exact order are the great earthquake (either 320,000 killed in Haiti 2010 or 5th greatest in magnitude, Japan 2011), the blacksackcloth sun Nov. 3, 2013 (rarest of all, the 4th H3 Hybrid since Christ), and of course the Total Lunar Tetrad 2014/15 that only falls on passover and tabernacles and won't happen again till 2582/83. The H3 won't happen again till 2172.
If you care to include other evidences like the Malachy Prophecy (religious Rome destroyed in the 1st half of the Tribulation in Rev. 8 in agreement with 17.16), the prophecy of Jubilees, and Ezekiel's prophecy that takes us to exactly May, 1948 when Israel would become a nation again this only strengthens the timeline.
Considering the last drop of conventional oil is 2035 when 900 billion barrels (current estimate of available oil by industry reports) are used up at an average of 100 million barrels a day, the war over this resource will be a good 15 years before that to control the flow of oil in the middle east. Hence, 200 million military units in the middle east (Rev. 9.16) and the nuclear exchange (v.18). This fits perfectly with the timeline of the 6th and 7th trumpets from Aug. 20, 2020 to Aug. 7, 2022. Jesus steps down on the mount of olives on the latter date.
Now that you know this what do you do? "Overcometh" so that you become a spiritual Christian and not a carnal one to receive your reward to be first raptured and return with Christ to reign 1000 years. Many Christians don't care for this reward so they will lose this blessing (Rev. 1.3).
Source: biblocality.com.../97-2015-to-2022
Very simply He returns on the 2,520th day (end of Daniel's final seven) from when the Tribulation starts. 2,520 is the smallest number divisible by all numbers from 2 to 10 as a basic prophetic working unit, and it is 7 years x 360 days per year.
The last 3 feasts pertain to when Jesus returns. Feast of Trumpets (representing the first rapture according to readiness, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10 at 9.7 "before the throne") commences the 7 year Tribulation, and the 2,520th day must land on Tisha B'Av, the day the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed, for Jesus returns to reign in the 3rd Temple for 1000 years on earth with His overcomers. Not all who are saved receive this reward though all saved do get to enter the New City after the 1000 years. Consider this consequences for slothful Christians.
Furthermore, we know the "branch is tender" (Matt. 24.32) because Israel is a nation again and the Total Lunar Tetrads coincide with when Israel became a nation May 14, 1948 and entered Jerusalem June 7, 1967 as the signs in the heavens. The 8th feast Tetrad since Christ is 2014/15. And there are exactly 2,520 days from Sept. 14 Feast of Trumpets 2015 to Aug. 7 Tisha B'Av 2022. Not so for 2014-21 or 2016-23.
To further seal the deal, not that we need more proof, the 3 events that occur right before the Tribulation starts (Rev. 6.12) in exact order are the great earthquake (either 320,000 killed in Haiti 2010 or 5th greatest in magnitude, Japan 2011), the blacksackcloth sun Nov. 3, 2013 (rarest of all, the 4th H3 Hybrid since Christ), and of course the Total Lunar Tetrad 2014/15 that only falls on passover and tabernacles and won't happen again till 2582/83. The H3 won't happen again till 2172.
If you care to include other evidences like the Malachy Prophecy (religious Rome destroyed in the 1st half of the Tribulation in Rev. 8 in agreement with 17.16), the prophecy of Jubilees, and Ezekiel's prophecy that takes us to exactly May, 1948 when Israel would become a nation again this only strengthens the timeline.
Considering the last drop of conventional oil is 2035 when 900 billion barrels (current estimate of available oil by industry reports) are used up at an average of 100 million barrels a day, the war over this resource will be a good 15 years before that to control the flow of oil in the middle east. Hence, 200 million military units in the middle east (Rev. 9.16) and the nuclear exchange (v.18). This fits perfectly with the timeline of the 6th and 7th trumpets from Aug. 20, 2020 to Aug. 7, 2022. Jesus steps down on the mount of olives on the latter date.
Now that you know this what do you do? "Overcometh" so that you become a spiritual Christian and not a carnal one to receive your reward to be first raptured and return with Christ to reign 1000 years. Many Christians don't care for this reward so they will lose this blessing (Rev. 1.3).
Source: biblocality.com.../97-2015-to-2022
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OP, please read the post from GloryofGod and let me know what you think.
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OP, please read the post from GloryofGod and let me know what you think.
forums.carm.org...(Matt-24-33)-the-day-He-returns-quot-Right-at-the-door-quot-(v-33)[e ditby]edit on 4/25/2012 by sad_eyed_lady because: (no reason given)
Here we go again, i started this in the camping discussion. It was "foretold" that no one will ever know the day of rapture or the leadup to
rapture exect god.
So the more math/'fact' you use, the less likely you are right.
So the more math/'fact' you use, the less likely you are right.
Nobody has ever been able to disprove the 2,520 days from Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14, 2015 to Tisha B'Av Aug. 7, 2022.
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Could that not be attributed to the fact that both those dates have not yet happened?
Could that not be attributed to the fact that both those dates have not yet happened?
I think you're forgetting something:
Mark 13:32
“No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”
Mark 13:32
“No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”
and i think that the antichrist has to stand in the temple and claim to be God.
and as far as i know the temple has not been built yet, and that there will have to be something major happen for the muslims to give up the temple mound.
don't get me wrong, i know God moves in mysterious ways. but until the temple is built i see no need in trying to guees at the date. which Jesus said no man knows.
and as far as i know the temple has not been built yet, and that there will have to be something major happen for the muslims to give up the temple mound.
don't get me wrong, i know God moves in mysterious ways. but until the temple is built i see no need in trying to guees at the date. which Jesus said no man knows.
I am so many steps ahead of you, you have no idea.
Verse 31 says heaven and earth shall pass away, not talking about when Jesus returns.
Jesus returns 1000 years beforehand.
Verse 31 says heaven and earth shall pass away, not talking about when Jesus returns.
Jesus returns 1000 years beforehand.
reply to post by Parture
Have you taken the following into account?
Have you taken the following into account?
Matthew 24:36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Luke 12:40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him."
Matthew 24:42 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.
Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
and i think that the antichrist has to stand in the temple and claim to be God.
and as far as i know the temple has not been built yet, and that there will have to be something major happen for the muslims to give up the temple mound.
don't get me wrong, i know God moves in mysterious ways. but until the temple is built i see no need in trying to guees at the date. which Jesus said no man knows.
The 3rd Temple will be completed by April 20, 2016, the 3rd day inspection of the lamb. There are 2300 days (Dan. 8.14) from April 21, 2016 to Aug. 7, 2022.
The middle of the Trib (Rev. 9.1) when the Antichrist stands in the 3rd Temple is Feb. 25, 2019.
Originally posted by ofNight
I think you're forgetting something:
Mark 13:32 “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”
You are correct by stating this verse, but correct for the wrong reason! This is a direct relation to a Jewish wedding. Back then, a groom would build a chamber onto his father's house. The father would continually inspect this addition. The groom nor the bride knew when the father would tell the groom his work was complete and to go get his wife. This is what Jesus meant by saying this and everyone around at the time understood this because it was common knowledge.
Originally posted by Noinoi
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Have you taken the following into account?
Matthew 24:36 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Luke 12:40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him."
Matthew 24:42 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.
Matt. 24.35 is the end of the world.
Luke 12.39 the servant was not watchful.
Matt. 24.42 says hour not day.
Originally posted by NoSoup4U
Originally posted by ofNight
I think you're forgetting something:
Mark 13:32 “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”
You are correct by stating this verse, but correct for the wrong reason! This is a direct relation to a Jewish wedding. Back then, a groom would build a chamber onto his father's house. The father would continually inspect this addition. The groom nor the bride knew when the father would tell the groom his work was complete and to go get his wife. This is what Jesus meant by saying this and everyone around at the time understood this because it was common knowledge.
But this passage is not talking about marriage. It's talking about the end of the world.
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Those are not rapture scriptures, those are second coming scriptures. there are no signs for the rapture it is a mystery event and can happen at any time but, we know through prophecies that we are in the last days and getting close to the tribulation so it's safe to say the rapture is VERY close.
Those are not rapture scriptures, those are second coming scriptures. there are no signs for the rapture it is a mystery event and can happen at any time but, we know through prophecies that we are in the last days and getting close to the tribulation so it's safe to say the rapture is VERY close.
"Taken" is not a rapture verse? (Matt. 24.40-42). Their Lord. Believers are to watch not non-believers.
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It says plainly in order to escape the hour of trial, the time itself of the Tribulation, you need to keep the word of His patience, be watchful and
prayerful. Do all Christians do this? Of course not. So not all Christians alive Sept. 14, 2015 will be raptured alive. Parousia begins with the first
rapture according to readiness "before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) before the 1st trumpet (8.7) of the Tribulation takes place.
Originally posted by Parture
The 3rd Temple will be completed by April 20, 2016, the 3rd day inspection of the lamb. There are 2300 days (Dan. 8.14) from April 21, 2016 to Aug. 7, 2022.
The middle of the Trib (Rev. 9.1) when the Antichrist stands in the 3rd Temple is Feb. 25, 2019.
so you expect me to believe that, in four years that one of the most holy spots for muslims, the place where they claim muhammad recived his visions, will be turn over to the israelites with out a world war erupting.
actuly it would have to be less than four years in order to give time for the temple to be built.
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In my opinion, if anybody walked up to any of you ppl waiting for him to return, even if he had scars in the palm of his hands, you ppl would NOT
believe that person 100% of the time. Guaranteed. You would think this person making these claims is crazy and u would laugh in there face so I think
it's a big waste of time.
Unless a caucasian man, in a white robe floats down from the sky on a cloud, glowing, maybe the crown of thorns on his head, completely ripped like he's been working out in the gym, then you ppl will not believe that person claiming to be Jesus. Lets be honest, that situation doesn't seem like it will happen.
The Bible or whatever you read is flawed and not accurate.....BIG TIME.
Ive read the bible 4 times in my life and it just confused me a little more each time.
Reading that bible is how I came to the conclusion there is no invisible man in the sky watching out for us either.
All the people that want to quote the bible versus and act like you're a real godly person I doubt have even read that bible from start to finish every single word in it. I read it twice by the time I was in 8th grade, I had half of it memorized too but for ppl to use that book to guide their OWN lives is just crazy.
Unless a caucasian man, in a white robe floats down from the sky on a cloud, glowing, maybe the crown of thorns on his head, completely ripped like he's been working out in the gym, then you ppl will not believe that person claiming to be Jesus. Lets be honest, that situation doesn't seem like it will happen.
The Bible or whatever you read is flawed and not accurate.....BIG TIME.
Ive read the bible 4 times in my life and it just confused me a little more each time.
Reading that bible is how I came to the conclusion there is no invisible man in the sky watching out for us either.
All the people that want to quote the bible versus and act like you're a real godly person I doubt have even read that bible from start to finish every single word in it. I read it twice by the time I was in 8th grade, I had half of it memorized too but for ppl to use that book to guide their OWN lives is just crazy.