Astral-projection training (seeking psychic travelers)

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Can you refresh my mind of what his challenge was/is?

Im not sure if hearing makes any difference or not because you communicate in the astral relm through thought and intention.

Originally posted by Talltexxxan
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Can you refresh my mind of what his challenge was/is?

Im not sure if hearing makes any difference or not because you communicate in the astral relm through thought and intention.

Physical hearing makes absolutely no difference once outside the body. Perception is completely different, that is why so many people have a difficult time adjusting to the new vibrations, and way of being.

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Randi $1,000,000 paranormal challenge

The Amazing Randi, magician and author of numerous works skeptical of paranormal, supernatural, and pseudoscientific claims has for about ten years offered "a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power." His rules were little more than what any reasonable scientist would require. If you are a mental spoon bender, you couldn't use your own spoons. If you claimed to see auras, you'd have to do so under controlled conditions. If you claimed to be able to do remote viewing, you wouldn't be given credit for coming close in some vague way. If you were going to demonstrate dowsing powers, you would have to be prepared to be tested under controlled conditions. If you were going to do psychic surgery or experience the stigmata, you would have to do so with cameras watching your every move.

And that's just the old rules. Read source for futher information regarding the new rules set in 2007.

Source

Now Now.. I'm late to this game ( thread )

But.. I was known for posing challenges here on ATS.. and I posed them in a fair way, I challenged remote viewers and astral projectionists .. anyone actually, psychic's of any kind were welcome to take my test...

Aside from one individual, the tests were almost completely fail ..

The ultimate conclusion from 3 tests was still nothing more than chance... I'm very willing to repeat the protocol, the protocol was OPEN and absolutely fail-safe ..

how?

I placed an object in a sealed box... I took photos of it... in the box, out of the box.. and I also provided it's exact GPS coordinates .. I then placed that information in an encrypted zip file, I released that zip file to everyone on ATS ... I then accepted responses..

Once the zip was in everyone's hands, I could not tamper with it.. all I held was the password... I provided it at the end..

Each time.. the test was a fail, save for one. which was partially a fail..

Originally posted by sparda4355
If you have experienced this by accident, I want to hear your first hand stories...

I was 14 when I had my first and only OBE, and is was by accident. I had recently learned about lucid dreaming, after telling my mom about a dream I had, and how I was in control of the dream. She told me it was called a lucid dream. So, every night when I would go to sleep, I would think about what I wanted to dream of next.

So one night, I fall asleep, and at some point I end up in the hall. I am walking, but I can't feel my legs, or anything, but I can see clearly. I look at the pictures. I move to the living room. It is when I move into the living room that I realize I am not walking at all, but just moving. I would say I was floating, but I had no sense of touch, smell or sound. So upon this realization, I started to move into the air and through the ceiling of the house.

I started to move through the air into the back yard. I stopped to take it in and look into my neighbors yard for anything out of the ordinary. I tried to manifest light into what I though was a dream, and no light manifested. I turned to the right, about 50 feet in the air, and tried to manifest anything...a tree, a person...but nothing manifested.

I ask myself, "Is this a nightmare?" There was nothing in the dream but what appeared to be my backyard at night, and the alley leading down a row of houses into the dark neighborhood, street lights and all. This is when I realized, "I'm not dreaming. What am I doing up here?" Then I got scared and started racing higher into the sky at a fast rate. This really scared me. At that point, I had feeling for the first time in the experience, like being pulled from the middle of my chest (no pain), then a short feeling of falling. I woke up with a start, like I had fallen into my body. I walked out into the living room, looked at the pictures in the hall as I made my way. I looked out into the dark night and looked at the street lights. I didn't know what happened to me.

Later, I found out about OBEs and tried to replicate the experience. I have yet to be successful, but the one thing that is key, that I am still working out, is learning to dream lucidly on a regular basis, learn how to stay fearless during the onset of vibration and sleep paralysis, and have a positive intention to travel outside of my body.

For me the hardest part is getting past the fear factor. Sometimes the vibration and humming can feel quite jarring. One of these nights I hope to let go and go for a trip.

Dan

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First thing you need to know there are different triggers for everyone. I will explain how I discovered mine. I am kind of an insomniac to begin with about 5 hours a sleep a day different times of the day. I noticed during moments of extreme tiredness It would happen and I would wake up soaking wet. Ok now when I started to try to figure out how I was doing it I was lost until I started reading books on auras and chakras. Then I figured out how I was doing it. I would lay on my back and become relaxed attention to my feet back and my hands with my eyes closed, I would clasp my hands on my chest because I could concentrate that energy towards my heart chakra. It takes three modes of mental thought to trigger it for me they are imaginary color, sound, and smell. I start with the sound Aum and keep it in my mind without trying to stop it, which your mind tends to do because you pereceive it as a breath. Then whatever color I feel comfortable with, last the smell of flowers, trees, ocean etc. Then it just happens. I really do not think drugs effect this I was in the hospital drugged up and somehow was sitting in the audience watching Chaz Bonno dance on dancing with the stars and the television was off. I also had times when I went places and time was not existant meaning past present and future were intertwined somehow. Also these can be prophetic, I witnessed two things I won't talk about that effected everyone. Have fun with it because this is something everyone is capable of doing, the hard part is trying to find your switch. And please take notes after, it can possibly save lives.

Originally posted by sparda4355
Im extremely interested in astral-projection and have done my fair share of study on the topic.

If you personally are capable of such abilities and can teach others, please join this thread. And show us your ways.

If you have experienced this by accident, I want to hear your first hand stories...

If you, like me, are interested... Feel free to join in and discuss this fascinating subject as it hopefully unfolds!


If you have a source that is particularly useful and would like to share it... Please do so, but it is first hand knowledge that I seek. Do's and dont's, tips and tricks, etc... That you personally used so as a discussion about these techniques/ideas can easily take place.

edit on 25-4-2012 by sparda4355 because: (no reason given)

FORGIVE ME FOR DUPLICATION HERE...

I posted what I'm about to paste on a previous thread.


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Originally posted by Baachus
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I would like to join this experiment if I may. I think this could actually work.

OK then please give this a try!

Originally posted by reitze

Originally posted by 3raser
I've long wanted to experience Astral travel but never successfully accomplished this. Every site i go on to show me how to never worked. 1 Time i was really close to it but i didn't know what was happening. I woke up one morning half awake and didn't get up and then felt extreme energy and vibrations. I let this take over my body but nothing happened. Anyone have any tips on doing a successful Astral Projection??

edit on 12-4-2012 by 3raser because: (no reason given)

Ok here you go. Pretend you're in kindegarten and I'm your teacher. I'm going to put some music on for us too...

OK CLass, we're going to do an imagination exercise. First everyone decide where you're going to go and draw your space ship. If you're not sure maybe you've seen a star trek episode or a science fiction story like Avitar... Or you could keep it simple like a trip to the dark side of the moon...

Imagine kids drawing Rockets...

OK Class its time to go... put your pencils down and close your eyes. Picture yourselves in your space ship and buckle your seatbelts. Check all the gages and get ready!

Its nearly time to blast off. I'm mission control in Huston and will be counting down soon.... 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1...

BLAST OFF!

Feel that farce (punnin cuas I'm havin fun too) as you go right through the sky... scuse me wile I kiss that sky...

look there's the moon! Is that where you're going? Or is it another planet? Time to check your course, make sure you're on the right path...

OK time to sleep because time dialates and we'd get really old if we didn't...

OK time to wake up but remember we're imagining so keep your eyes closed johnny...

Look there it is! Isn't it amaaaazing!

Is the ship working properly? Make sure its aiming right to slow us down.

OK lets take a walk around here. We can gather 5 little rocks each and take a couple pictures, plant our flag, and then we've got to go...

OK its time to go... Buckle up... 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1.. blast off!

Wasn't that strange how much different gravity was here.

Ok time to go to sleep for the journey again...

Ok time to wake up were' almost home (keep those eyse closed jane).

Ok its time for entry. Make sure the seat belt is tight and the shields are up.

alright now its time for the parashoot... SPLASHDOWN!

And here's the Navy to pick us up. Its DEBRIEFING TIME!

Everyone open your eyes now. Lets all draw pictures of where we went to and then we'll share them....


Ok who wants to tell us about where they went and what they saw?

edit on 4/13/2012 by reitze because: + music

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I DO I DO!!!

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Ok with that out of the way... I think I'm partly "at odds" with all the "letting go" of the common teaching. Not that it's "all wrong",... but rather that it lacks a certain insight. That is that the imagination of a "little child" is of a biblical importance.

The complicated aspect is that when you conciously direct the psychic dreaming you effect it... sort of like expectation effects scientific "observation"... but the PARADOX is that without that interest... WHY [explitive] bother?

Originally posted by Realtruth
I just posted a simple guide to astral projection, since I have been getting requests on "How to" for months now.

Go to my last post, on my First OBE experience page.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I have 25 plus years of experience, so your getting everything in a nutshell so to speak.

Peace out,

RT

edit on 25-4-2012 by Realtruth because: (no reason given)

Thankyou for sharing... I'm off to read that after finishing this post about drugs. Per this post:

Originally posted by Baachus
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Drugs lowere the success rate. In order for the best results one must be completely sober and relaxed. Any sedatives affect your energy output. Also ANY doubt or hesitation.
Might I suggest to you binaural brain stimulation? Through audio frequencies you can achieve altered states of mind. Try looking up "hemisync" or brainwave entrainment.

The most effective drug I know for getting an experience is TOBACCO! Smoke'em peace pipe! But honestly it makes me sick... so much that the best thing I can do is go lay down... and then what? Just an "ordinary" dream state of 1/2 sleep. What else is similar? Being a FAT PIG... and by that I mean that I have food issues where sometimes I gorge myself, and eat foods that I shouldn't late at night. Whenever I do the stomach aches keep me up. I've had a few injuries do the same... So why mention that?

Well 1/2 sleep is the "essence of it" on soooo many levels. Consider that old and dying people often seem so "profound"... while people like me... "written off" as just another dreamer, or much more derogatory terms.

There is an "art" to dreaming, and 1/2 way to sleeping seems an essence of it. Crazier drugs only seem to pollute the dreamyness with noise - or worse the door open to deamons - so don't. Camel non-filters are the best. But after getting a clue about dreaming, the only reason to buy a pack is to keep them "safe and legal"... and since its been over a month or so... I'm gonna buy a pack tomorrow.

Whenever I do (about 1/2 dozen times/year) I end up thinking why did I dooo that... yuck... and give them away to an opportunity to tell some adicted tobacco freek about appreciating tobacco for its God given value. APPRECIATE rather than chase a "filtered buzz" that only costs you $$$.

DARE TO DREAM!

Originally posted by sparda4355
Im extremely interested in astral-projection and have done my fair share of study on the topic.

If you personally are capable of such abilities and can teach others, please join this thread. And show us your ways.

If you have experienced this by accident, I want to hear your first hand stories...

If you, like me, are interested... Feel free to join in and discuss this fascinating subject as it hopefully unfolds!


If you have a source that is particularly useful and would like to share it... Please do so, but it is first hand knowledge that I seek. Do's and dont's, tips and tricks, etc... That you personally used so as a discussion about these techniques/ideas can easily take place.

edit on 25-4-2012 by sparda4355 because: (no reason given)

...
From that thread's OP:

Originally posted by Realtruth
OOBE "Realtruth" Exclusive Story

Maybe I should talk to a priest, I thought……….nope, I wasn’t even going to go there. I was drawn to a little off the wall book store, in my area that I thought might have something I could use. The bookstore was a combination psychic shop and metaphysical bookstore, at that point I had never even read a single book on metaphysics, or stepped foot into a shop like this. So I spent about 1 hour flipping through books but I found nothing.

A lady near me was sitting in a chair reading a book, she had been there a while and I was getting a warm feeling from her, she looked over and said hello how are you? I replied, Good!, not so well, she said is there something I can help you with? I own the store and maybe I can direct you to what you need. I said well you

Well that's about it... OBE. A state of a dream... so is life 'bout a dream' or a dream about life? Either way, what's life without dreams?

Thank god, I'm not the only one that has had this experience.

Last night, at around 12:00 central time, I was reading an interesting article about Lucid Dreaming. I read the article and important things about lucid dreaming, so I decided to try it that night. this is where it gets scary for me.

Being new to lucid dreaming, I was skeptical on whether I should try it or not, because lately I've been having high blood pressure/fast heart rate (should probably get that checked out, but being the arrogant bastard I am I wont)

So being worried about what might happen to my physical self while lucid dreaming, I decided to try it anyway.
At around 3:10 am Central time, I was sleeping, but conscious if that makes sense. I'm pretty sure i was dreaming, but since i was conscious, i told my self, " I am dreaming" in my head. Not even a second after i said that, all the hairs on my body stood up, and then this is where it gets scary for me. while my hairs were stood up, i felt myself floating above my body (after doing research, its called an OBE (out of body experience). This might not make sense, but while all this was happening, i had a sense of what was going on, almost like i was dreaming but still conscious, like in a dream-state kind of mind. It seems to me like when my hairs were stood up, what I will call my "spiritual self", was being release through my hairs and then floating above my body. Being in this Dream-like-state, i knew what was going on and felt my heart racing, So I immediatley woke up for the fear of something going wrong.

I'm a 15 year old teenager, and have never had anything happen to me like that before. I'm scared of going back to try it again, but I'm also skeptical what would lie ahead if i didn't wake myself up.

I'm not sure i will try anything like this again, only if I'm reassured that i wont have a heart attack or something of the sort. Can anyone shed some light on this? *(No, i was not on any drugs. This is my firsthand experience and everything I'm telling you actually happend.)

Hey, if you want a good understanding of it and how to do it.

check out serious wonder...

search 'Serious Wonder' on facebook or google

gives you a great understanding of it and how to do it

i too would like to participate. pm me for details pls

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What do you need to know?

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just book marking to read later =)