Fukushima is falling apart: are you ready?

Originally posted by zorgon


WE TOLD YOU SO

Well you got the upper hand there. well done.

Originally posted by doobydoll
If one fuel rod is capable of killing more than a couple billion souls then we've had it.

Nuclear power should be banned globally until we find a way to safely dispose of it's waste, it's just common sense really.

Surely it's now a serious question that has to be asked.

The utterly infantile and incomprehensibly stupid problem though, is there just seems to be so much backroom politics, influenced by an army of vested interest groups and their lobbyists (all clearly devoid of any modicum of ethics, decency, conscious or morals), all rabidly desperate to 'control the conversation and debate' on the use of nuclear power, for no other reason than to ensure their clients' bottom-line profit margins aren't in any way affected... no matter the consequences, no matter the damage, no matter the pain, the suffering and the horror that they can potentially unleash on humanity and on the planet when catastrophies of unimaginable consequence, such as what we've seen and what we're no doubt about to see in all its devasting glory, in Fukashima occur.

There could be 15,000 fuel rods in Fukashima about to destroy every form of life on this planet and these unconchinable sociopaths would still be clambering over each other to shut each and every decenting voice on the merits and benefits of nuclear power generation: 'Screw Humanity, Screw all life on this planet... all that's really important is that we protect the Shareholders!'. You bunch of complete and utter scum-sucking cockroaches; you should all be lined up and unceremoniously shot in the back of your heads and your bodies left to rot where they fall. How do you even look at yourselves in the mirror in the morning??

If through some miracle of nature and by some stroke of shear incredible good luck, we manage to somehow find our way out of this impending nightmare you've greedily gotten us all into, then none of you should even be let within 1,000 miles of any hearings or committees whose purpose is to decide on whether the world can really afford a 'Nuclear Energy Industry' anywhere in its future.

The only thing you even remotely deserve to hear of discussions, debate or conversation in regard 'its' future use should be: "SHUT THE # UP... You had your chance, you had your time, you had every opportunity to shape a different outcome and act responsibly and with some integrity and you choose 'Greed' and 'Self Interest' above the greater good and humanity's future survival. Be thankful you're not rotting in some jail, as the bitch of some big-arse, bad-tempered 'Lifer' who insists you pleasure him nightly and always answer to the name 'Barbara'! Now # OFF YOU SCUMBAGS!"

Just a thought.

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Believe it or not, there is a process that can use Brown's Gas to neutralize radioactive waste.

www.innovativetech.us...

So what happened ?

The same thing that always happens the fascist Government of the Slave States of Amerika ..

The very reason we are in this situation to begin with ..

ENERGY TECHNOLOGY SUPPRESSION !



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If I were told that humanity should meet its demise very shortly, I would not be scared or fearful, but I WOULD be consumed with anger and regret. This planet is so incredibly beautiful, and we have the potential to live harmoniously with our environment to live a full, satisfying and meaningful life, full of compassion, beauty and a reverence for life and our big blue home.

It's difficult to comprehend just exactly how it got so bad, and so desperate. Why the whole world's problems revolve around printed pieces of paper that keep us trapped in our own cycle of hell that has left us too blind to see the real reason why we're here and how we should be experiencing life.

I had what I thought was a ridiculous idea about a few months after this happened. About undermining the earth under the entire plant, like we do in the western US to store our nuclear waste. From a safe distance, you dig a tunnel down under the reactor, perhaps 1/4 mile down and empty out the place to make a chamber about 150 feet high and the diameter of the plant. Then you drill up and plant a 'somewhat' small hydrogen bomb midway between the plant and the chamber.

Set off the bomb, drop that entire sucker down the hole and then spend the rest of your time in a safer scenario where you can cap the hole with rocks, sand and concrete. Sounded stupid then, don't really know if it is so stupid now.

Originally posted by JudgeDredd
reply to post by doobydoll

 

Why can't they encase these rods in say concrete/lead tow them out to sea and sink them directly above a subduction zone, where they would be sucked under and taken back deep inside the mantle?? Is this possible or a bad idea???

I was reading on here a few days ago about a substance called 'Starlite' which can withstand ridiculously high temperatures, maybe it could be adapted/modified for some kind of safety procedure in the nuclear industry?

I don't know what would be a good or a bad idea. I wish I did.

Originally posted by Aleister
reply to post by SoymilkAlaska

 

Of course people shouldn't eat anything from the ocean (and remember, there is only one ocean, even though people have tossed different names on different sections of it).

If anyone from ATS is still eating "sea food" they need to have their heads examined - with a geiger counter!

i agree! but let me make this point- the only problem wouldn't always be radiation itself, as that may have worn off by the time the fishermen catch it, or by the time it reaches the factory/ your plate etc.

my BIGGEST concern is the long term effects that genetically unsound fishy foody material will have on peoples bodies.

even if there are no physically apparent mutations, there in most certainty, i can assume that there will be a very high chance of there being something very wrong with said fish/ ocean creature.

FOR EXAMPLE PEOPLE!! try to buy freshwater fish!

also, don't buy fish oil supplements! buy Flax seed oil supplements, as they also have some nice omega 3's etc.

im not saying your fish will be radioactive, but would you eat fish that once was at one point exposed?

i would not.

be careful people, this isn't even the tip of the ice burg, there is no lalalaling way that they have told us even 1% of the truth so far, they don't even really care.

I feel like everyone is about to die because of this.Thats how fearsome this article is written.
And it makes you hate the govt so much, that at this point it really doesnt matter how you retaliate.
I dont want to, period. I want to just live once again in my life without the feeling of them ruining everything around me and the people I know. We are not living how we are meant to be living. We are disrespecting everything around us. We let morons run our countries.
Whats that you say?
How long has this been going on? This nucleor DISASTOR!?
Over a year. Wow.

I will tell you what- Im real proud of what they are capable of, really. Its awe inspiring how they can kill billions and not even try to sweep up the mess.

..and as sad as it is...I feel responsible for not saying or doing enough. As is mostly always the case, its a matter of negligence.

We need an immediate rescue of that facility.
The worlds at stake, not just one country.
And I dont even believe for one second that I sound nuts when I say it.

FIX IT. OR WE ALL DIE. SIMPLE.

reply to post by AmazonOfArtemis

I echo your sentiments.
Last night I stood beneath fallout of a erupting volcano. No joke. Rocks raining down the size of my palm. I watched Etna belch smoke and ash and make the most incredible BA-BOOMS and the fire-show? The lava? Incredible.

And we as a species are going to kill it - all of it.

Oh maybe not Etna - She'll go on rebuilding what we've so disdainfully screwed up - but the animal life? The plant life?

It makes me sick.

And why?

It all boils down to one thing.

GREED!

At this point I'm truly beginning to understanding why God caused the flood. We deserved to be wiped out then and we do now.

Irony or it all for those of you who [i[]don't believe? It makes NO difference. Cause this time we're doing it all by our little selves and the wee whiners that we are? This time we’ll not even be ale to blame it on anyone but ourselves.

We deserve what we get.

peace

I know this is a far fetch idea and that its so far down the thread most wont see but here it goes...

What if this was needed...

Look at mars it has happened before. Mars core died and the magnetosphere disappeaered letting solar winds blow away the atmosphere.

i know its out there but....... what if we knew this pole shift wasnt going to keep the generator running so we ensured that it would have a boooooooost of energy. We made a movie about it... and im going to say it a good portion of movies have come true in reality, whats preventing this one.

Nuclear material of that quantity would be a good attempt to keep a dieing core from failing....

people cant be that evil and if we have the tech to take care of it but dont theres got to be a good reason for it that the gernal public wouldnt understand.

forecast: it all melts down.. the blob moves to the center of the earth and acts as a mini sun keeping the core superheated and never cooling like MARS!!!

what do you think is this at all logical.

reply to post by musashi9


Clearly, you are brain dead. Why are you here on this forum? Your either s##t scared or suffering from severe normalcy bias.

reply to post by Common Good

I feel like everyone is about to die because of this.

If you believe this guy? It will...

There is no way to overstate the media’s complicity in concealing critical information about the tragedy that is presently unfolding at Fukushima. If there is another earthquake, the media will certainly be every bit as responsible as the government officials who saw the danger, but chose to do nothing.

If an earthquake hits and undermines the pool, the coolant will exit the pool, the rods will melt and radioactive plumes will rise into the atmosphere. Koide explained that the rods could not be safely removed from the existing pool because “if you hoist them up in the air, huge amount of radiation will come out from the spent fuel and people nearby will die.”

One of the journalists on “Morning Bird” asked Koide what would happen if the Unit was struck by another earthquake?

Koide answered, “That will be the end.”

“The end,” the journalist asked, visibly shaken?

“The end,” Koide repeated emphatically.

source

So, what now folks? Just sit around and wait for the next EQ to hit?

Get together for some type of 'global healing' where we all focus on the devastated area?

Or go back to the television and cheeseburgers while TPTB who CREATED THIS DISASTER move into their underground bunkers?

peace

reply to post by PutaMuerte


Well I hate to say it but your attitude borders on that of a defeatist.

We have not gotten this far to just shrug everything off and continue life as usual.

The way I see it, ENJOY THE RIDE WHILE IT LASTS.

Come to think of it, if there are any benevolent EBEs that would like to help, now's a great time. We owe them to not let this mess happen again.

aliens wouldnt and shouldnt help us. (this is if they exist of course) *pst- of course they do.
If they are intelligent enough to get here, then they should be intelligent enough to know that we are a savage species, hellbent on death-destruction-chaos-filth-and greed.

-but there are a few cool ones.

Only help that we need and should be getting has been ignoring it for the past year. They knew. Ignorance is not an excuse-and neither is bs.

Zimmerman should be taking the backseat to this issue. As well as the rest of the crap they push.

Edit to Add ----- SILO- I believe. Now- its time to go cave shopping.

Originally posted by TheStrugler
I dont know much about nuclear plants, but why dont they shut it down and remove the fuel rods?

Because radiation around is so high that not only people but even robots can not work there for more then couple of minutes. Optimists [TEPCO] say, they will be able to remove fuel rods assemblies from RB#4 SFP at December 2013.

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If there are really "fuel rods assemblies". There is possibility that part of the fuel melted. If so, there is not known technology, how to "repair" this nightmare.

As warned about in the very beginning - this is a real 'I told you so' moment.

It's too late - we have a run away train that nobody knows how to stop.

is anyone else feeling crappier than they did before the tidal wave took out those nukes...

just asking...cause my health does seem to be deteriorating alot this past year...

can anyone tell me how bad this is for australia? and what places will become completely uninhabitable?

Here is a video from last year I have posted several times on other threads it is short and informative....



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Update


New Containment Flaw Identified in the BWR Mark 1

Fairewinds shows that the nuclear industry's plan to vent the containment at Fukushima Daiichi could not have prevented a containment failure and the ensuing explosions.



Link to a good updated annylisis


-Alien

Thirteen months have passed since the Fukushima reactors exploded, and a U.S. Senator finally got off his ass and went to Japan to see what is going on over there.

At first I was going to say .. what do you mean 'finally got off his ass and went to Japan".
I was thinking .. it's up to Japan to fix it.
But then I thought about it and the more I thought about it the more angry I got.
All that crap from japan is spewing onto us. And Japan can't stop it.
And they are covering it up. And Americans are going to die because of it.
So I have to agree .. the US gov't needs to stop playing childish games and
get their heads out of their collective backends and expose this for what it is!
They need to make Japan clean up it's own mess.
(and not make the US Taxpayer pay to clean it up)