The Immigration conspiracy. Something IS happening!

Originally posted by InfoKartel
And that has nothing to do with their voter base?

You miss the point. Your opinions are not only extremely left wing and anti-Western, they are a thing of the past.


British PM Cameron has stated that multiculturalism has led to extremism

Cameron launched a scathing attack on 30 years of multiculturalism in Britain warning that it fostered extremism.

Daily Mail

The French President has stated

"multiculturalism had failed"

"We have been too concerned about the identity of the person who was arriving and not enough about the identity of the country that was receiving him," he said in a television interview in which he declared the concept a "failure".

The Telegraph

While the German Chancellor has stated

Attempts to build a multicultural society in Germany have "utterly failed", Chancellor Angela Merkel says.

She said the so-called "multikulti" concept - where people would "live side-by-side" happily - did not work, and immigrants needed to do more to integrate - including learning German.

BBC

Yet here you are equating the rejection of multiculturalism with racism.

Not only are your attacks anti-Western, your opinions are obsolete.

Originally posted by daaskapital
You have played the race card in many of your posts in this thread.

Indeed he has. Then he claims that race doesn't exist.

Not only is he a slippery customer, he is also confused.

Still, an acute spasm of political correctness can do that to people.

Here is video he will enjoy

Cameron: State multiculturalism has failed

Originally posted by daaskapital
reply to post by InfoKartel

 

Dude, you compared my thoughts to that of Hitler and Nazi Germany. How is that not bringing up racism? You essentially classed me the same as Hitler due to my ideologies. That is pretty much racism. You have played the race card in many of your posts in this thread.

O_O

Did you really just say that?

Amazing...

Originally posted by InfoKartel
You see, you belong to the old breed that's dying out.

Actually considering that you and your anti-Western politically correct views are greatly in the minority on the thread, it would be more accurate to observe that it is you who is a member of an old breed that is dying out

That as it may, here is a video you will enjoy

Multiculturalism has Failed in Europe And that's Official !

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As Franklin Roosevelt once pointedly stated, "Nothing in politics happens by accident". I once read an interesting theory in that the massive non-white, third-world immigration to first-world white countries is a plan to weaken whites since whites will prove the biggest threat to the ones responsible for the world's ills, as whites have the most to lose. By ruining cohesiveness and unity within white communities, a balkanized West would turn out to be easier game. And with the white-envy, anti-western attitudes of most non-whites, the newcomers sure wouldn't hesitate in contributing to the demise of their host countries. Same as the issue of "The Boy Crisis". Multiculturalism and Political Correctness seem to be obvious ploys in the creation of the NWO.

Originally posted by trisvonbis
Those sudanese people were brought up in subcultures festering with violence generated by poverty, the terrible poison of religious extremism, mass manipulation by greedy and corrupt governments - put in place by the other greedy and corrupt governments of the "civilized world" for the sole purpose of keeping them busy while their country is being looted blind of all its natural resources, provided they have any, otherwise just for the pure enjoyiment of the "Elites" - and many tribal conflicts dating from ancient times.

They are complete aliens to the westerners' lifestyle and they feel somehow entitled to steal as much as possible from those seen as guilty for the many troubles in the 3rd world countries. They even see themselves as Great Heroes while being at it, although they won't spare a penny for their empoverished countrymen, back home.

It is wrong on every level, because the vast majority of their victims never wronged them or their countries, by contrary. We are all messed up by a common enemy.

Multiculturalism is nothing but a huge, bloated bag of bullturd and will never work because it isn't natural, period. And saying that, I don't need to be a racist to keep my right to choose who I want to mix with. And I don't feel the need to apologise for being picky about my friends, partners and neighbours.

Poison someone, blame a third person and promise the victim an antidote. The victim will hate that third person and the poison, while being totally dedicated to you. In time you could get that third person killed and by controlling the poison / antidote ratio you can switch the blame on a fourth, fifth ( ... ) person and when you are done, you can stop the antidote. Or change the poison

It is nothing but a game, and a very nasty one. Because the dealer always wins, and it is not one of the 99%

edit on 23-4-2012 by trisvonbis because: (no reason given)

Excellent, excellent post.

I can't say much more than that other than I agree 100% multiculturalism does not work, it has nothing to do with racism, it just simply does not work because societies are different. One to one, people can mix and get on great, but you can see with the gangs and ghetto like places, mixing on a wide scale does not work- and the governments know this full well.

In the UK, the country is becoming more and more divided- it's splitting- I see areas of cities that don't have white people, they aren't welcome there either.

To be honest, I think this whole immigration lark is to do with the agenda, when the # hits the fan, the country will be divided, and that is exactly what TPTB want so they can implement their new rules without a country being united against them.

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Perhaps you are married, perhaps not. But, for arguments sake let us say you are single. I wonder if you would perhaps see things differently if you were to fall in love with one of these immigrants. Now let us throw a wrench in the mix, let us say the immigrant is illegal. Yet you fall in love with the person and eventually get married. In the process you are forced to deal with a culture you are not familiar with, and problems you didn't know exist. You would also have your eyes opened to the richness and complexities of our cultural differences. Lastly you might actually see things from a different perspective, and you might not be so harsh in your judgement.

Another idea I have always had. The persons that complain most about immigration (legal or illegal), they should be forced to move to the country of the ones they are complaining about and live there for a minimum of a year before being able to continue to complain about it.

Of course in that year they would have a totally different experience and their world-view of things would change drastically, and they would become better persons for it and thus not only molded by preconceived ideas and prejudices which are quite often wrong (and often fueled by people with hate agendas).

Now joining a merc group or being shipped overseas on a military assignment would not count. They would have to go as citizens and in the same condition and with the same resources as the people coming, which usually means nothing, the only way to really even the playing field.

I do realize that many people that do immigrate from poor countries are rich (the rich are the ones that can afford it) but many poor people do as well.

I find the ones to be the least tolerant of others are that way because they are the least informed, while at the same time, believing (in ignorance that is sometimes hard to crack through because they have no clue they are ignorant, and are not going to be taught otherwise) they are the most correct in their uninformed opinions they form.

Originally posted by SubAce
Perhaps you are married, perhaps not. But, for arguments sake let us say you are single. I wonder if you would perhaps see things differently if you were to fall in love with one of these immigrants.

Another idea I have always had. The persons that complain most about immigration (legal or illegal), they should be forced to move to the country of the ones they are complaining about and live there for a minimum of a year before being able to continue to complain about it.

I did fall in love with one of those immigrants. She has a job. She speaks English. She integrated.

On the other hand, immigrants who prefer to not work at their host country's taxpayers expense, refuse to integrate or learn the language and choose to live in ethnic ghettos of their own making are largely not welcome.

If you want to support a family of unemployed Somalis then by all means do so. Don't expect anyone else to do so for you.

Originally posted by Jaellma
I must admit that I did not read every single post in this thread but one thing is apparent: if some Australians (or UK people) feel slighted that these Sudanese/Africans are in their neck of the woods and benefiting from spoils that they (locals) can only dream of owning, then these same locals need to stop complaining and take it up with their government.

I don't know but maybe the Australian government, or any other Western government for that matter, is profiting substantially by allowing a certain percentage of Sudanese to live and subsist quite well in Australia by means not clearly disclosed to their locals.

It's easy to blame the Sudanese for all sorts of supposedly new issues but if you want to find out where the money is coming from, I believe a top down investigation needs to start with your government. This issue appears much bigger than just dealing with foreigners who have lots of cash and don't work.

I completely agree with you apart from one problem we have a Labour run council here always have and always will they come down like a ton of bricks on this issue and just wont listen, when I raised this issue at a local meeting and I was not the first we were ignored and told we do not deal with racists and bigots here etc... etc...

The funny part was a mixed race local guy first raised the issue (plus general crime in the area) and got the same treatment as the rest that followed including myself, he was the first to walk out of the church where the meeting was being held.

Then I watched at least half the people originally present walk out one by one as they were stonewalled and just before I left I looked at who was left in the meeting, the usual cronies who are to busy putting even more unnessary speed humps and fencing off playing fields everywhere and their other make work pet projects.

Well I hear you think take this higher to your M.P (here in UK) Erm...No you see also a Labour Man and they will not entertain you, you get stonewalled and written off as a racist nutter so there we have it end of story as far as that goes.

What about the media? Nope local news is run by the BBC and ITV and if you haven't had the pleasure of North West Tonight or Granada Reports then you will see there will be no truck there too busy spinning the bull and not offending anyone's sensibilities etc.

I do not blame the people coming here I just find it Galling that when you try and raise ANY concerns you are branded and blackballed simple as that nothing will change here for the forseeable future.

Originally posted by InfoKartel

Originally posted by daaskapital
reply to post by InfoKartel

 

Dude, you compared my thoughts to that of Hitler and Nazi Germany. How is that not bringing up racism? You essentially classed me the same as Hitler due to my ideologies. That is pretty much racism. You have played the race card in many of your posts in this thread.

O_O

Did you really just say that?

Amazing...

Yes, yes i did:

If you read properly, i said "Perhaps this is an international conspiracy." PERHAPS!!!. I didn't say it was.

It would only take you two moments to think it out loud and realize how stupid, insensitive and quite frankly - racist it sounds. If you would have read history and learned from it you would know that's how Hitler riled up Germans against the Jewish people. There are numerous examples more of exactly this type of denigrating behavior leading to violence in history.

Originally posted by QQXXw

Originally posted by DaMouse
reply to post by NancyNeedles

 

I believe you and I appreciate your honesty.

My parents are not Australian either. But they darn worked hard all their lives to bring up me and my two older brothers.

I am so tired of people calling Aussies racist or whatever...it is utter b-sh*t. Majority of Australians embrace multiculturalism!

Majority of Australians do not, the majority of Australians in this thread have demonstrated this very inconvenient fact. The majority of them always start off with the "I am not a racist but..." dribble

The fact of the matter is, if you are not a racist, accept others and their ways, if you do in fact embrace multiculturalism, than accept the fact that there are going to be people who will live within their own communities and will follow their own customs within the restrictions of the law. If those people do no wish to have anything to do with Australian culture, than they have every right to stick with whatever culture they are comfortable with.

edit on 24-4-2012 by QQXXw because: (no reason given)

the funny thing with this whole thread is, the people who are asking/raising genuine valid questions and points that need to be answered are getting swarmed by dis-info f#wits like you, who cant debate and just pull the racism card to create a smoke screen and stop other people asking questions.
people have a right to ask why someone who just came here now owns a house and doesnt have a job, has 12 people living in the house, all the kids go to private school, and the 4 cars out the front are ss commodores.
that my friend is not racism that is a valid point of contention that needs to be answered and you calling it racism calls into question your motives.

On a lighter note and slightly off topic.... I'm actually thinking of leaving the US. I'm a German citizen, educated here and working for the last 20 years. I'm debating on coming to Australia. How difficult WOULD that be? I do computer work for a living, so my fragile hands couldn't handle any "mines"...lol....

Talking about falling in love with one of these immigrants won't be a problem soon because the entire culture will be all the same. Go to one of the immigrant countries for a year for a better view of the world but only if you are against it.?

Why don't you make Japanese people spend a full year in China? Because they are very different people with different cultures.

In the UK we don't give a crap about Mohammed, we don't need the extra buildings and the extra crap, it's killing us

I don't really understand. So the general consensus is that there's a conspiracy against the white race, in which the plan is to finance mass immigrations of africans into white communities? Do I have that right? Who do you think is behind it, the Rothschilds? The Rockefellers? Those bilderberg folks? Who? The vast majority of people with any real power on the global stage are white (or people who claim to be jewish, but are white). The president's a puppet. So who's behind this, and what in gods name is the motive if you're right? Why would white people want to sabotage the white race? I mean, Margaret Sanger devised a dispicably engenius plan to drastically lower the black population in the 1920's. She was racist as hell, so her motives i can understand. But if this is about race or about whites being systematically targeted, then who in the hell is doing the targeting? Maybe TPTB are the ones secretly funding the arab militias and the sudanese army that are killing off the sudanese people in droves. Genocide definitely tends to cause mass immigrations. Although that still wouldn't explain the fat money bags that have been mentioned throughout the thread.

I have a few theories as to what could be causing this:

1. Perhaps 1st world governments have been involved in back hand deals, for example to accept a certain quota of Sudanese, in exchange for a proportion of their oil reserves. On the other hand, I fail to see what the Sudanese government would gain from this deal and so in this scenario this seems unlikely.

2. A large influx of people (regardless of origin) from a war ravaged country and the contrasting culture (violence, greed, selfishness etc.) that is entailed does serve the purpose of disrupting an established society. A part of divide and conquer if you will. It would be an easy technique for the people behind the NWO to cause instability in relatively stable societies, = more reason to/easier to control the population.

3. Conspiracy theories aside, perhaps it's as simple as the fact that due to technological innovation, travel is easier than it has ever been, and governments fear being branded as racist and so feel obliged to let immigrants in. There would most likely be global outroar if the UK or Australia for example suddenly came out with the proposition that no immigrants are to receive benefits, which are to be solely for those born directly in the country concerned.

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Same argument, same racism, same blind patriotism that is engaged everytime we have a new refugee culture trying to integrate. The Vietnamese, Greeks , Italians, lebos, Croats, Serbs all were to violent and never going integrate. But guess what - they did - it took time but they now make benefit glorious nation Australia.

I get the fear, I feel it as well - but it is irrational. I certainly don't think it is a conspiracy.

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Easy, because white people, or more accurately European culture, has proven over and over again, that they can defeat the wealthy powerful elites, establish liberty and justice, and build a strong middle class, which is not what the elites want. The elites want a world of slaves to do their bidding, so they seek to break down European culture, in order to re-establish some form of aristocratic control.

It's illegal to bring foreign animals through customs because they could endanger the local wildlife but it doesn't matter about the local way of human life?

Oh no the Gray squirrels are killing all the red squirrels. Lets ban Animal imports. We can still commit natural suicide by opening the gates for an infinite number on immigrants from a country that is 200 times bigger than our small little island.

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And with this statement

And they have no clue how it is to be smarter and more productive than 99.9% of the "white people" they encounter,

You prove yourself to be just another elitist racist, with a big ego and a big chip on your shoulder.

You throw around words like "exploit" and "rape", not realizing that you were programmed to believe this stuff, ignorant of the real history, and play completely into the hands of the elites whose goal is to stir up racism and hatred. You are serving those very same people looking to rape and exploit us all, while ignoring the majority who seek to do good things for humanity.

Go live among some primitive tribe somewhere, in a grass hut, having to go out into the woods to do your business without any tp, spending your time worrying about getting something to eat, while avoiding getting eaten. Then maybe you will realize what European culture has given to the world.

Nobody here is completely against immigration, they just want to keep it down to a manageable level. At the same time they would like to see third world nations develop to the point where they are safe and desirable places to live.

A vast majority of the people, including the people on this thread, would like to see third world nations develop into first world nations, with liberty and justice for all. A small percentage of the people on this planet want to eliminate the rights of the commoner, enabling them to exploit everyone everywhere. By serving up your particular form of prejudice, you serve those who seek to exploit.

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