Popocatepetl Volcano Nightmare: 19 Million Prepare to Evacuate in Mexico?

reply to post by hotbread


Well it would be pretty bad, but "a global" nightmare. Ithink that is a little of an overstatement no?

reply to post by navy_vet_stg3


OR, they will move closer towards Mexico city.

Why do people needed to make up sensationalist titles. This is not supposed to be a tabloid newspaper. I understand the situation isn't good but don't make this out to be a super volcano or something. As someone mentioned this erupted last in 2000.

Just to calm everyone down

"The largest popocatapetl explosion occured on April 29 1997, (Mk = 3.2) The explosion (6.4 x 10^11) Was 220 times smaller than the value of 1.4x10^14 of Mt St. Helens" (Cruz-Atrienza, Valdez, 2001)

Now, I dont see people screaming apocolypse about St Helens now do we?

Reference
Geophysical Research Letters Vol 28 No 21 pp.4027-4030

Originally posted by JakiusFogg
reply to post by hotbread

 

Well it would be pretty bad, but "a global" nightmare. Ithink that is a little of an overstatement no?

Certainly not an overstatement. Check out this post/thread:

Winter that never went away

This is the eruption of Mt. Tambora in 1816. It changed the world.

reply to post by charlyv


You want me to check "a thread". I want you to check a scientific peer reviewed journal.

mismatch?

reply to post by charlyv


If you follow the links on the thread you posted

Causes It is now generally thought that the aberrations occurred because of the 1815 (April 5–15) volcanic Mount Tambora eruption[14][15] on the island of Sumbawa, Indonesia (then part of the Dutch East Indies, but under British rule during Napoleon's occupation of the Netherlands), described by Thomas Stamford Raffles.[16] The eruption had a Volcanic Explosivity Index ranking of 7, a super-colossal event that ejected immense amounts of volcanic dust into the upper atmosphere. It was the world's largest eruption since the Hatepe eruption over 1,630 years earlier in AD 180. That the 1815 eruption occurred during the middle of the Dalton Minimum (a period of unusually low solar activity) may also be significant.[citation needed] Other large volcanic eruptions (with VEI at least 4) during the same time frame are: 1812, La Soufrière on Saint Vincent in the Caribbean 1812, Awu in the Sangihe Islands, Indonesia 1813, Suwanosejima in the Ryukyu Islands, Japan 1814, Mayon in the Philippines These other eruptions had already built up a substantial amount of atmospheric dust. As is common following a massive volcanic eruption, temperatures fell worldwide because less sunlight passed through the atmosphere.

wikipedia

You will note that in addition to other minumum VEI 4 that happened at the same time. this INDONESIAN volcano was a VEI 7 SUPER VOLCANO

Popocatapetl is no where near that scale.

Don't be so reactionary! it did not "change the world".

On a more humorous note, if one could be had for this monster, and it shows just how tempermental it is...

In 1927 an eruption was artificially triggered by the use of dynamite in the crater for sulfur extraction.

Yea, a bunch of Mexican miners went up there trying to mine sulfur, dropped in a bunch of dynamite, and this thing went off! Talk about a touchy volcano.....

anyone have a seismograph link by chance?

Originally posted by JakiusFogg
reply to post by charlyv

 

If you follow the links on the thread you posted

Causes It is now generally thought that the aberrations occurred because of the 1815 (April 5–15) volcanic Mount Tambora eruption[14][15] on the island of Sumbawa, Indonesia (then part of the Dutch East Indies, but under British rule during Napoleon's occupation of the Netherlands), described by Thomas Stamford Raffles.[16] The eruption had a Volcanic Explosivity Index ranking of 7, a super-colossal event that ejected immense amounts of volcanic dust into the upper atmosphere. It was the world's largest eruption since the Hatepe eruption over 1,630 years earlier in AD 180. That the 1815 eruption occurred during the middle of the Dalton Minimum (a period of unusually low solar activity) may also be significant.[citation needed] Other large volcanic eruptions (with VEI at least 4) during the same time frame are: 1812, La Soufrière on Saint Vincent in the Caribbean 1812, Awu in the Sangihe Islands, Indonesia 1813, Suwanosejima in the Ryukyu Islands, Japan 1814, Mayon in the Philippines These other eruptions had already built up a substantial amount of atmospheric dust. As is common following a massive volcanic eruption, temperatures fell worldwide because less sunlight passed through the atmosphere.

wikipedia


You will note that in addition to other minumum VEI 4 that happened at the same time. this INDONESIAN volcano was a VEI 7 SUPER VOLCANO

Popocatapetl is no where near that scale.

Don't be so reactionary! it did not "change the world".

edit on 20/4/2012 by JakiusFogg because: (no reason given)

Well, I wrote the post , did the research and do Geology. The post quotes many scientific papers. It is known that there were other minor contribuiting factors, but Tambora was perhaps the largest volcanic explosion in human recorded times and all the others were like a firecracker compared to dynamite.

There is no reactionary in understanding that volcanoes can destroy the climate of earth. If the dome under Yellowstone every breaks open, the destruction in atmospheric terms would be catostrophic for everyone. Don't believe it? ok, move on.

Originally posted by steve95988
anyone have a seismograph link by chance?

Cant find one at the moment

But you never know, we might find one eventually

reply to post by charlyv


Again you cite a SUPER VOLCANO (Yellowstone), Which if that goes off we're all in the kack!

But we're not talking about Yellowstone, we're talking about Popocatapelt Where in the literature are you drawing the comparison from???

I think if anything you should be more worried about the Icelandic Volcanoes. and if you cannot see the difference, I advise you to move on.

Originally posted by JakiusFogg
reply to post by charlyv

 

Again you cite a SUPER VOLCANO (Yellowstone), Which if that goes off we're all in the kack!

But we're not talking about Yellowstone, we're talking about Popocatapelt Where in the literature are you drawing the comparison from???

I think if anything you should be more worried about the Icelandic Volcanoes. and if you cannot see the difference, I advise you to move on.

edit on 20/4/2012 by JakiusFogg because: (no reason given)

Think of a volcano like popo, as just the tip of the iceberg. Each successive eruption engorges the internal magma chamber and vent. While popo is younger than most, it shows a long term of increasing eruptive violence. Gradually, like we saw in Mt St. Helens, this chamber vent can consume the entire inside of the cone. When this happens you can have a side breach, which is certainly catastrophic, especially if there are cities (Like Mexico City) near it.

Someday, it too may undermine all of the crust around it's cone and become an event > VEI 7, but even without being in that class, it is an extremely dangerous volcano.

This is my first time inserting a picture. Forgive me if it doesn't work the first time But my question is, does anyone even know what that is that's inside the square box? It's pretty odd to me.




Any ideas? I'd say it looks like a UFO but I can't quite be sure.

reply to post by Arken


My prediction thread from April 2011....

You could say i got it right.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by UFO1414

Your thread title is a tad misleading. The souce says 19 million "affected" and I figure that's from mostly the ash to fall and settle all over the region. But thanks for the update on the volcano. It will erupt, it's just a question of when.

Right, but you know what happens to that ash when it gets inhaled? It shreds your lungs which leads to your death.

Originally posted by TheProphetMark
This is my first time inserting a picture. Forgive me if it doesn't work the first time But my question is, does anyone even know what that is that's inside the square box? It's pretty odd to me.




Any ideas? I'd say it looks like a UFO but I can't quite be sure.

Good spot !! What is that?
The Son through the cloud? Moon (day moon) through the cloud?
I will say it,Nibiru

reply to post by shauny


I would say dust on the camera sensor........I've just had to manually clean my cameras sensor for the very same reason.

reply to post by shauny


Too dark to be the sun as the sky would be a little brighter. I did thought of it being a moon, but I don't know. There are Time stamps in the picture at the bottom and I was kinda hoping somebody could cross reference the location along with the sun, moon, and planet alignments, hoping we could get an idea what it could be. I'd do it myself but I don't know how to do it but I know there's people on this site that can.