The Biblical god's longsuffering and patience

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
It sounds like utter foolishness correct? It sounds absurd correct? If the answer is "Yes" and "Yes" you need to come to Jesus, you need the Holy Spirit. The Bible is a spiritual book, it makes no sense to the unbeliever.

This has been pointed out many times, but here goes again...believers themselves don't agree with what the bible says in many passages. That's why there are so many different denominations. Don't you see how this is confusing to those on the outside looking in?

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
It sounds like utter foolishness correct? It sounds absurd correct? If the answer is "Yes" and "Yes" you need to come to Jesus, you need the Holy Spirit. The Bible is a spiritual book, it makes no sense to the unbeliever.

This has been pointed out many times, but here goes again...believers themselves don't agree with what the bible says in many passages. That's why there are so many different denominations. Don't you see how this is confusing to those on the outside looking in?

Not everyone who calls themselves a Christian is one. Remember the wheat and tares parable? There are many wolves dressed as sheep.

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
The natural man cannot receive the things of God. The preaching of the cross is foolishness correct?

So they are SOL? How do they ever exercise the faith to believe?

Ask God for it. Ask Him to give you the grace to believe and repent.

Originally posted by Mentalistbee
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

Again, hypocrisy, why would any one seek forgivness for anything? That would mean they sinned, how did they sin in the first place , if all sins were accounted for.?

Sin is an archaeic word. A more modern contemporary view is we do wrong sometimes and we apologize for it, otherwise the guilt would eat us alive because he becomes our conscience with his laws on our hearts and minds. Confession clears your conscience. Morality and manners go hand in hand.

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
The natural man cannot receive the things of God. The preaching of the cross is foolishness correct?

So they are SOL? How do they ever exercise the faith to believe?

Everyone is born prepacked with some measure of faith. Some put that faith in science, some put that faith in whispering incantations over black candles, some put that faith in hunting ghosts using EVP and night vision cameras, some put that faith only in themselves.

The path to believing in Yeshua comes with having the courage to pray to him at all. Just the act of praying to him is an act of faith in itself. An act of faith also comes in the form of having the desire to know more about him and learning more about him and in even bothering to listen to what we have to tell you about him.

Some christians make things harder and more complicated than what it really is and when they talk to other people they get those people more confused. When they surrender to the Spirit, what needs to be said comes naturally.

You already have the faith in you, you just need to apply it towards your goal.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

When they surrender to the Spirit, what needs to be said comes naturally.

If you are offering yourself as an example of this concept in action, then I would caution anyone from accepting whatever spirit presents itself to put words in your mouth, seeing how you seem to have a mission, from looking at what you write, to destroy the faith in Jesus and to destroy his church.

Originally posted by jmdewey60
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When they surrender to the Spirit, what needs to be said comes naturally.

If you are offering yourself as an example of this concept in action, then I would caution anyone from accepting whatever spirit presents itself to put words in your mouth, seeing how you seem to have a mission, from looking at what you write, to destroy the faith in Jesus and to destroy his church.

The Father gives the Holy Spirit to anyone who asks. The baptism of the Holy Spirit is what empowers the christian for Kingdom ministry. The same Holy Spirit within us is the same Holy Spirit that raised Christ Jesus from the dead.

This is all in your bible.