Firemen Explosion Testimony

I've been searching for old thread where debunkers try to explain this particular video. I found threads that has this video in it, but it seems like they ignore it.

Does anyone have a link where this video is discussed ?

reply to post by maxella1


Not sure about this video but this one here is a presentation dealing with all of the eyewitness acounts of explosions on the day itself. Very compelling to say the least.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

that one?

theres prolly more than 1 thread about it..

yours bein the latest

Originally posted by BiggerPicture

www.abovetopsecret.com...

that one?

theres prolly more than 1 thread about it..

yours bein the latest

This one is about Iraq.

Originally posted by usmc0311
reply to post by maxella1

 

Not sure about this video but this one here is a presentation dealing with all of the eyewitness acounts of explosions on the day itself. Very compelling to say the least.

Thanks, I'll check it out.

Unfortunately what people seem to forget is, that there are A LOT of things that can go "kaboom" in such a massive conflagration. You have an airliner scattered across 10+ floors in each Tower, you have about 30+ floors burning, each an acre in size. So 30+ acres burning, plus the degradation of the structural integrity due to the impact, damage, and fires. What can't go kaboom in that?

Then you have the things that sound like "explosions". People describe any loud sharp sounds as "explosions". Does not mean it was an explosive event. On 9/11, people described the impact as an explosion. They described the fireballs traveling down the shafts as explosions. The described the collapse of the Towers as explosions. They described the floors impacting each other as explosions. They even described the sound of bodies hitting the ground as "explosions." Also, the sound of steel failing would sound like an explosion. Beams snapping, floors crashing down on top of each other, etc.

What these firefighters explained is the moment when the Tower collapsed right on top of them. What else could it be? Any explosions at the base would have been noticed by ALL in that area. The ceiling coming in on them, and the sound of explosions would be directly because of the Tower collapsing on top of them.

ummm

why were there dead bodies all over the floor of WTC 7 (the 3rd building that larry siverstein only later had "pulled" cause it did not come down with the "explosions" as planned)??

why did barry jennings die - cuz he had to step over already dead bodies to get out of WTC 7.

well at least the firemen weren't culled

rip barry

reply to post by BiggerPicture


There weren't any bodies, and no firefighters ever mentioned any bodies at WTC7, and Barry retracted his statement. Also, as it said, no fatalities at WTC7.

Originally posted by GenRadek
reply to post by BiggerPicture

 

There weren't any bodies, and no firefighters ever mentioned any bodies at WTC7, and Barry retracted his statement. Also, as it said, no fatalities at WTC7.

Barry Jennings said the firemen told him not to look down and that he was stepping over people.
That's right people were sleeping and he was stepping over them.
If it makes you sleep better at night, go ahead and keep telling yourself that there were no bodies at WTC 7. That's cool with me.

blip.tv...

reply to post by GenRadek

What these firefighters explained is the moment when the Tower collapsed right on top of them. What else could it be? Any explosions at the base would have been noticed by ALL in that area. The ceiling coming in on them, and the sound of explosions would be directly because of the Tower collapsing on top of them.

And when one of the firefighters said that any one of the buildings could blow up, he actually meant that Airplane could fly into anyone of the buildings. Get it? What else do you think secondary explosions could mean?

Originally posted by maxella1

Originally posted by GenRadek
reply to post by BiggerPicture

 

There weren't any bodies, and no firefighters ever mentioned any bodies at WTC7, and Barry retracted his statement. Also, as it said, no fatalities at WTC7.

Barry Jennings said the firemen told him not to look down and that he was stepping over people.
That's right people were sleeping and he was stepping over them.
If it makes you sleep better at night, go ahead and keep telling yourself that there were no bodies at WTC 7. That's cool with me.

blip.tv...

So the firefighters are now complicit in 9/11 too? After all, no one in the NYFD said there were bodies or deaths at WTC7. So are they now lying? Or was Barry wrong in his recollection, which he then took back? Oh yes what about Mr. Hess? The other gentleman that was with Barry and rescued with him by NYFD. Did he see any bodies stepping over? Maybe you can direct me to an actual source that says all the people that died in WTC7 that day.

Also dont forget, Barry was in WTC7 when it was hit by the collapsing debris of the WTC. But no blasts at the base with explosives. But maybe you can tell us where the bombs were located?

Hey, I guess thee must be now thousands of people lying about 9/11 now right? FDNY, NYPD, Port Authority, everyone there. The list gets bigger and bigger.

Originally posted by maxella1

And when one of the firefighters said that any one of the buildings could blow up, he actually meant that Airplane could fly into anyone of the buildings. Get it? What else do you think secondary explosions could mean?

edit on 19-4-2012 by maxella1 because: (no reason given)

At the time nobody really knew what the hell was going on. They figured out it was a terrorist attack. What was the last terrorist attack in NYC done with? A bomb. What are the most common terrorist attacks till that day? Bombs. So instinctively they deduced that there must also be bombs used by the terrorists. Mention the words terrorist attack, and you automatically think of explosives blowing something up. That is what this firefighter was assuming, since, nobody knew what the hell was going on. But in reality, there weren't any bombs.

Secondary explosions? Well lets see, what would have been considered the primary explosion? The plane impact and fireball. Secondary explosions? Everything else that can go boom in 30+ acres of offices on fire, plus the aircraft burning inside, plus the vapors and gases inside the burning building that ignite and explode, plus the electrical conduits, pressurized pipes, gas lines, and the sound of the structure coming apart, and the sound of debris hitting the ground. Do you understand that? Also, secondary explosions, goes back to the initial assumption that since its a terrorist attack, it must mean there are bombs involved to. A natural reaction to such an extreme event. You really should look in to human psychology during intense situations and how they process extreme events.

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The phrase "clutching at straws" is the first thing that comes to mind when reading your comments....

reply to post by maxella1


one of my first threads here on ATS was about this. basically what it came down to was people saying the firemen don't know what they are talking about and the instant 'firefighter' experts here at ATS claimed explosions are normal, even though these firefighters in the video, and OTHER videos obviously don't agree.

Originally posted by maxella1

Originally posted by GenRadek
reply to post by BiggerPicture

 

There weren't any bodies, and no firefighters ever mentioned any bodies at WTC7, and Barry retracted his statement. Also, as it said, no fatalities at WTC7.

Barry Jennings said the firemen told him not to look down and that he was stepping over people.
That's right people were sleeping and he was stepping over them.
If it makes you sleep better at night, go ahead and keep telling yourself that there were no bodies at WTC 7. That's cool with me.

blip.tv...

Barry's retraction about dead bodies in the Lobby of WTC 7 is contained in this video at 2.33 :-

www.youtube.com...

Coincidentally, there is footage of the Lobby of WTC 7 in the same video at 0.42 from which it is obvious there are no bodies and this is well after evacuation and after the building had been clobbered by the falling North Tower. So where would any bodies have come from ? Any relatives saying they lost someone in WTC 7 ?

Barry Jennings was with Michael Hess and firefighters at the time and none of them has referred to bodies.

I never thought Barry's original statement made much sense anyway. Try walking across a room looking straight ahead and not looking down. You will find that your peripheral vision still shows you what is on the ground shortly ahead of you; otherwise we would be tripping over all the time.

reply to post by Flatcoat

The phrase "clutching at straws" is the first thing that comes to mind when reading your comments....

A truther claiming the rest of us are clutching at straws??????

All truthers have is youtube suposition and fast buck con artists.

reply to post by maxella1

Get it? What else do you think secondary explosions could mean?

You should read up on terrorism a little bit. Popular tactic of terrorist. Initiate a primary explosion. People die, medics and security personnel rush to the scene and then the initiate the secondary explosion. I think that was the tactic for either an terrorist act in Africa or Israel. First they set off a hand grenade in the street outside a building, everyone in the building rushed over to the windows to see what was going on and then they let off the larger secondary explosion.

Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by Flatcoat

 

The phrase "clutching at straws" is the first thing that comes to mind when reading your comments....

A truther claiming the rest of us are clutching at straws??????

All truthers have is youtube suposition and fast buck con artists.

Truthers + Youtube = Bad

Debunkers + Youtube = Good

Got It ! LOL

reply to post by Alfie1

I never thought Barry's original statement made much sense anyway. Try walking across a room looking straight ahead and not looking down. You will find that your peripheral vision still shows you what is on the ground shortly ahead of you; otherwise we would be tripping over all the time.

Maybe you needed a few more drinks ?

Or less?

Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by maxella1

 

Get it? What else do you think secondary explosions could mean?

You should read up on terrorism a little bit. Popular tactic of terrorist. Initiate a primary explosion. People die, medics and security personnel rush to the scene and then the initiate the secondary explosion. I think that was the tactic for either an terrorist act in Africa or Israel. First they set off a hand grenade in the street outside a building, everyone in the building rushed over to the windows to see what was going on and then they let off the larger secondary explosion.

I would love to read from your reading list... if you don't mind?