SECRET SPACE WAR - Which side are TPTB on? Which ALIENS do 'Star Wars' Satellites Target?

reply to post by someotherguy


No, its more like, some kind of similar agenda 21, small amount human slaves, and ETs living on our farm land.

Now, these wouldnt be my contacts. I don't really know if my friend is in contact or if its milab style co-op thingy.

But you know, if our leaders from various countries, the black ops, and HH group, consider themselves to be ETs, this could be code for CHINA even, for all we know. I was also told that North Korea represents the Dragon of Old.

Anyway, I don't intentionally seek ET contact, I seek Source and especially Higher Self.

But today I got zapped into 2 hour sleep/nap for saying, in deep theta binaural, "hi thank you guys for watching over, I wish to communciate with the positve cosmic star people watching over and would like to know what the agenda is with regards to having ETs living here and humans shoved in cities, and would appreciate insight"

I think everyone should start to ask for the answers.

There is Free Will here, so we can ask. And that is only attempt # 1.

If people use their Free Will and consciusness to seek, and not be push overs but insist on truth and if they do get an answer, dig deeper, dont just buy it, if we seek within and ask questions, we should be able to bust every single one of their plans outright.

Its worth a try.

Originally posted by SkuzzleButt
an object in motion stays in motion

unless acted on by another force.

so unless space junk or ice particles decided to break the laws of phyiscs, its can only be one thing.

The ice particles did not break any laws of physics.
Anyone that's played billiards, or pool if reviewing the footage with billiards or pool in mind can see this.

Watch the lower edge of the video frame closely while also watching the 'object' that changes direction.
You will see a very slight, quick flash of the thruster, and immediate reaction of the 'object' to the flash as the invisible cue-ball of thruster reaction mass hits the 'object' knocking off on another angle of travel, as one would expect to occur when knocking balls about playing billiards.

The 'particle beam' that later enters the frame from below, travelling upwards, is just another ice particle also effected by the thruster.

No laws of physics broken.
If anything it's a classroom demonstration OF physics at work.
It's just billiards with ice particles close to the camera, and an invisible cure ball of thruster reaction mass knocking things about to travel at different angles than they were previously travelling.

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

.our Airforce was given the Green Light to attach a NUCLEAR AIR TO AIR MISSLE on an Lockheed F-104 Starfighter!

You will, of course, provide documentation for this story.

I recieved this info first hand but it should be easy enough to look up. This type of Nuclear Air to Air Missles were designed to take out large Soviet Union Nuclear Bomber formations over the Arctic or Atlantic Oceans.

General Curtis LeMay was concerned about large numbers of Soviet Bombers so this form of Missle was developed to ensure their downing if they came at the U.S. in massive formations. It was NEVER supposed to be detonated over land and that is why this incident is so alarming.

Even though the USAF was given the Green Light in the Second Series of DC UFO overflights in the 60's....permission to do this was quickly revoked as the possibility of a crash over land was too great a factor.

It can be looked up in the old Washington DC newspaper reports but it was several days later rebuked by U.S. Airforce officials as untrue....however from what I can remember...this was contrary to a Newpaper interview of a High Ranking USAF officer a few days previous that confirmed that this Missle would attempt to shoot down a UFO over the Atlantic.

Split Infinity

reply to post by SplitInfinity

I recieved this info first hand but it should be easy enough to look up. This type of Nuclear Air to Air Missles were designed to take out large Soviet Union Nuclear Bomber formations over the Arctic or Atlantic Oceans.

This was the state of the art in 1952:

reply to post by DJW001


SplitInfinity was talking about the 60's not 50's.

en.wikipedia.org...

Fits in with the time line and a F-104 was an 'interceptor' type of aircraft, not made today. Its job was to accelerate to high altitude as fast as possible to intercept high-altitude bombers, so straight line speed & altitude were important parameters, not dogfighting.

The technology matches up appropriately for the time.

Originally posted by DJW001

This was the state of the art in 1952.

It is ignorance to claim to know what "State of the Art" might be when military technology remains classified and is kept under wraps. In time, and only sometimes, a few elements of restricted information is leaked many years later. However, even this hardly scratches the surface of top secret projects which can remain buried indefinitely. In example, laser technology was tested in combat in Iraq, the evidence of which was produced some years ago by civilian emergency surgeons in Iraqi hospitals. Yet this is not revealed even today as existing as "State of the Art" infantry weaponry. And this is strictly 'pea shooter' classification, far below that for weapons of mass destruction.


GS

reply to post by DJW001

I am not refering to the 1950's UFO flyover of Washington DC. F-104's did not even exist then. I speak of the second UFO event in the 60's. This is when the order was given...then revoked.
Split Infinity

reply to post by mbkennel

Yes...Thank You for confirming what I was refering to.
Split Infinity

New article ...


The UN and Other Governances are Preparing for an Alien Invasion

...In his paper, “ The detection of extra-terrestrial life and the consequences for science and society ”, Zarnecki stresses humanity “needs to be prepared for the consequences” of alien invasions.

Simon Conway Morris, a professor of evolutionary palaeobiology at Cambridge University, asserts that aliens would be hostile and preparations should be focused on this probability. Morris clarifies that alien life would have “similar biological molecules” to humans and extra-terrestrials may have our “tendencies toward violence and exploitation.”
...
Even the US government is preparing for alien contact . . . or invasion.

Last Easter Sunday, the Pentagon, headed by Professor Paul Springer, conducted a beta test alien invasion scenario...

Originally posted by someotherguy

Even the US government is preparing for alien contact . . . or invasion. Last Easter Sunday, the Pentagon, headed by Professor Paul Springer, conducted a beta test alien invasion scenario...

Hi Someotherguy,


Thanks for sharing this information with us. The journalist, unfortunately, did not provide notarized documentation received by registered mail by deputized expert witnesses from official governmental sources, so some here will certainly note that it FAILS the truth test? And they will say that we have no biometric verification that the man interviewed was indeed Professor Paul Springer, for all we know he might be an alien in disguise? Fail, Fail, Fail?


Yet in fact, is the any real credibility to the adamant skepticism or cynicism about the plausibility of a Space War against Aliens? Are the US Military Experts 'zealots', to quote one adamant critic of this thread, because they go a great deal further than simply discussing this possibility? For those who are tasked with assessing the reality of facts are engaging valuable strategic military resources in War Game scenarios and battle simulations. Perhaps, according to a second debunker here, the US Military are utterly incapable and clueless, unable that they are unable to get their fact straight? Why deprive them of such superior intelligence and not provide them with a 'tutorial' on how to think intelligently?

Originally posted by Druscilla

This isn't a debate about some supposed space war. This is a religious argument of atheist vs. zealot.

Originally posted by DJW001

No, it is a protracted tutorial on how to post intelligently on ATS. It has only gone on this long because the lessons don't seem to be sinking in.

We do nothing more than entertain the same ideas as the US Military which any open minded analyst, conscious of the geostrategic situation in which we are today, assembling the enormous array of evidence which the public has at its disposal, would venture to envisage - and do so, IN FACT.


GS

reply to post by SplitInfinity

It can be looked up in the old Washington DC newspaper reports but it was several days later rebuked by U.S. Airforce officials as untrue....however from what I can remember...this was contrary to a Newpaper interview of a High Ranking USAF officer a few days previous that confirmed that this Missle would attempt to shoot down a UFO over the Atlantic.

Link, please.

reply to post by Getsmart

We do nothing more than entertain the same ideas as the US Military which any open minded analyst, conscious of the geostrategic situation in which we are today, assembling the enormous array of evidence which the public has at its disposal, would venture to envisage - and do so, IN FACT.

No. The United States military uses the concept of "alien invasion" as a premise for modeling asymmetrical warfare techniques. It is a hypothetical proposition used to develop strategic concepts. The title of your thread is :"SECRET SPACE WAR - Which side are TPTB on? Which ALIENS do 'Star Wars' Satellites Target?" You state this hypothetical as an affirmative. If there truly is a "war in space," there should be some evidence.Where is it?

reply to post by DJW001

The United States military uses the concept of "alien invasion" as a premise for modeling asymmetrical warfare techniques. It is a hypothetical proposition used to develop strategic concepts.

Link please.

Originally posted by DJW001

If there truly is a "war in space," there should be some evidence.Where is it?

Link please, to absence of evidence.

reply to post by Getsmart


Not enough evidence here, and this is not one of your better threads. the body count one was a lot better.

reply to post by Getsmart



Hey, all those Gamma Ray Bursts, maybe they're some ET firing its Death Star at its enemy?

reply to post by Afterthought

Link please.

Stop watching the cheesy visuals and listen to what Professor Paul Springer actually says.

Are the Nordics involved in this space war, I wonder?


Admiral Richard B. Byrd's, Diary Feb. Mar. 1947

( The Land Beyond The Poles )

1130 Hours- ... Ahead we spot what seems to be a city!!!! This is impossible! Aircraft seems light and oddly buoyant. The controls refuse to respond!! My GOD!!! Off our port and starboard wings are a strange type of aircraft. They are closing rapidly alongside! They are disc-shaped and have a radiant quality to them. They are close enough now to see the markings on them. It is a type of Swastika!!! This is fantastic. Where are we! What has happened. I tug at the controls again. They will not respond!!!! We are caught in an invisible vice grip of some type!


1135 Hours- Our radio crackles and a voice comes through in English with what perhaps is a slight Nordic or Germanic accent! The message is: 'Welcome, Admiral, to our domain. We shall land you in exactly seven minutes! Relax, Admiral, you are in good hands.' I note the engines of our plane have stopped running! The aircraft is under some strange control and is now turning itself. The controls are useless.


1140 Hours- Another radio message received. We begin the landing process now, and in moments the plane shudders slightly, and begins a descent as though caught in some great unseen elevator! The downward motion is negligible, and we touch down with only a slight jolt!


1145 Hours- I am making a hasty last entry in the flight log. Several men are approaching on foot toward our aircraft. They are tall with blond hair. In the distance is a large shimmering city pulsating with rainbow hues of color. I do not know what is going to happen now, but I see no signs of weapons on those approaching. I hear now a voice ordering me by name to open the cargo door. I comply.

Originally posted by votan
reply to post by Getsmart

 

Not enough evidence here, and this is not one of your better threads. the body count one was a lot better.

Hi Votan,


Nice to see you here and also it's heart warming to learn that you think that some of my threads are not as bad as this one!


I am not proposing evidence in this thread, as its title explains very clearly:


There are 2 Questions in the title, each ending with a Question Mark - which happens to look like this: ?


I didn't know that asking a question in a thread requires one to provide the answer, much less provide evidence for that answer. Thanks for teaching me something about thread politics. Maybe it is just in the UFO section where this is required? Next time I'll avoid asking questions in the title, that way all I will be required to do is wait for others to provide evidence for what I declare to be facts? Ooops, sorry, I just used another question mark...


Getsmart

reply to post by someotherguy


Hi Someotherguy,


Thanks for bringing this here, even if it is too esoteric for the hard boiled cynics who hang out in the UFO ghetto of ATS. For this is a place where they play heavy gangsta and nail a guy to a wall if he forgets a detail or misquotes a source. This is the place where the going gets tough and the tough get going. So don't be surprised if you're told that Truman was a fool, who entrusted the United States military security to an incapable madman subject to hallucinations, or that the damages suffered by his mission were imaginary, that ships were sunk by navigation error with military officers inventing wild UFO stories to protect their careers in the face of their own incompetence?


I really wish that those who disrespect others for sharing their eyewitness testimony one day have their own sighting, and find themselves subject to scorn and ridicule for not having it all on film, or for not having had seals melted into the casing of their camera to ensure that it was tamper proof, and for then not reporting the incident to three separate agencies before expert witnesses, and for not taking sodium pentothal truth serum during their lie detector tests to make sure that they weren't lying, and to produce certificates from every intelligence agency in the world to attest that they are neither disinfo plants or mind controlled programmed liars? At least they haven't called yet for torture, like during the inquisition, to ensure we're telling the truth.


I for one, and this from learning such from the family of this admiral, believe that there was not only a lot of very truthful and sincere testimony on his behalf, but also that there is a good deal more than was put forth up to the present time. Yes, this does imply that there are not only aliens, but actually also races of aliens which look very much like humans. This is very troublesome, and although they have been referred to as Nordics, can we assume that they are of a genetic heritage similar to the Aryan race? This is much of a burden for our contemporary minds, given that we cannot mention biogenetics without seeming to make racial allusions which could tend to discriminate against others. Yet, if a given nation was invaded by Eskimos, would we say people of nondescript physique, or would we attempt to generalize what a potential enemy might look at?


It seems that there is something in his testimony which is troubling, and that is the use of the Swastika. I assume, if these were indeed human looking aliens, that they would have adorned this symbol considerably sooner than the German Nazis had, given that it is unlikely that they would adopt the symbol of a human political party specific to one nation, when they had their sights on the planet perhaps? If these were extraterrestrial aliens, with a base on Earth, then we can only hope that they were not the ones who inspired the Nazi holocaust and its Final Solution, which might look very much like today's UN Agenda 21 which presents eugenics similarities, biogenocidal plans as well as State supremacy over individuals?


GS