Kindergartner handcuffed, taken to police station after allegedly throwing tantrum

reply to post by lacrimaererum


LOL

True story, but I don't believe anyone could be physically hurt by my shouting on the internet.

Sorry again about the shouting, but it needed to be said.

reply to post by ventian


Paddling the kids is how you ended up thinking like this. If you physically punish them your only teaching them to get violent when they get mad. The circle will come back around to bite you in the ass. We learned from it... That's why we don't use physical punishment any more. Not to mention you put a paddle to my child and you'll need to call the police on me to get me off the teacher!!! Don't hit they hit back!

YOU ARE ALL FOCUSING ON THIS ONE KID. OTHER KIDS WERE INVOLVED. THEY WERE PROBABLY TRAUMATIZED BY THE TANTRUM.

reply to post by ventian


Wrong... it happened in the principal's office..

Do people read the articles actually?

reply to post by Romekje


And then the kid, because she wasn't restrained, runs out and hurts someone. Maybe she even runs out into traffic and gets herself killed. Schools cannot restrain her, that is the point. They would be sued. They were only left with this as a choice. Does anyone have any logic anymore.

Originally posted by ventian
reply to post by PsychNurse

 

That is exactly right PsychNurse. And thank you for your efforts in helping people like this. I have been that child myself but with introverted tantrums. Had I not gotten help, I would not be here today. This child and those around her are a lot safer because of this.

I truly am happy to hear that.

reply to post by ventian


She tried to run out but got stopped, so clearly they still had control over her but simply didnt wanna be bothered with actually handling a tough situation, so the first thing they do is call the friggin police.

And if a principal and teacher can't control a 6 year old kid, they have no business whatsoever working at a school.

reply to post by PsychNurse


Psych nurse. I understand what you are saying. I know many people who refuse to beat their kids. I can respect that, but it isn't always effective. Some people will only learn from their mistakes through "violence". As a kid I didn't receive a lot of whippings. When I did though, I never repeated that same mistake. Although we disagree on this, I believe the biggest thing is to make sure a kid has two responsible parents. I knew kids that got beat and never acted out, but then I knew kids that got beat and always acted out. The difference was 9/10 times the home they grew up in. I am an INFP and I hate violence of all sorts. I cannot deny that the whole universe acts off of violence, hopefully we as humans get past this. Right now it is just the way it is. Enjoy your posts, thanks again.

reply to post by Romekje


Come on man. The situation with the cops is bad, but this wasn't a typical child. She was throwing shelves, chewing on the door knob, jumping up and down trying to break a glass, and running through the room ripping things off the walls! I wouldn't have known if I should call the cops or the Ghostbusters!

The sad part is that she really needs professional help. The cops are not the way to go, but maybe it was the best way at the moment. The school should have had a nurse or a counselor trained in helping kids, but my experience with school counselors is they are a waste of salary. I've never seen one do what they are supposed to be trained to do.

reply to post by ventian

YOU ARE ALL FOCUSING ON THIS ONE KID. OTHER KIDS WERE INVOLVED. THEY WERE PROBABLY TRAUMATIZED BY THE TANTRUM.

LOL


Even if this kid was arrested in front of classmates (which didn't happen) which do you think would traumatise the children more? Another child "throwing a tantrum" or police coming and handcuffing & arresting a young child in front of them?

Get real man...

reply to post by Romekje


Some 6 year olds cannot be controlled though. That is the problem. They cannot lock this one up, they cannot discipline her with nothing more than a time out. That is their only choice. If the kid tried running, then the timeout would not have worked. Again, this was the best option since the parents couldn't be raised. I am against the police state we live in myself, but there honestly was no other alternative in this situation. I hate to say it, but it is true.

reply to post by Romekje


Are the principals walls padded and sound proof... Something happened to get her in there in the first place. They wouldn't notice police coming in, of course not! Not to mention seeing her brought out the the cruiser. No one saw a thing. Of course the other children were traumatized.

reply to post by PsychNurse


there is very little I can say to you.

so many think this is acceptable. this is how your society treats its children who do not keep in line. its disturbing. you really have no idea how disturbing it is.

when a society is so broken that it cannot deal with its kids and has to call law enforcement to deal with them its a sad state of affairs.

and then people are blaming kids. saying they need to be made aware how to behave.


allow me to share something I found a little while back.

this kinda demonstrates how far in the gutter society has fallen.

there is a catchy little tune that has been around for some time. its kinda hard to figure out what its about. it doesn't make a lot of sense. the reason it doesn't make a lot of sense is because it is highly censored. so the kids hear it and like to learn the songs of. they can't make sense though. so they go to youtube to figure out the lyrics.

this song as been up on youtube since last september. there is no restriction accessing it.you do not need to sign in to view it. you are not warned what it contains. the video has had 10.9MIlion views. How many of these view do you think are young kids watching it?
I will not put it up because it will be removed. Just follow the link and have a look,
www.youtube.com...

This is what you are entertaining your kids with? Seriously. It even spells out some of the words incase you cant make it out.

And you think your society is ok. You allow entertainment like this and defend locking up six year olds ?

What is wrong with you guys?

reply to post by blupblup


The kid wasn't arrested in front of children "man". She was a threat as long as she was in that building. You need some real world experience "dude".

reply to post by ventian


You do realize you have "the dude" as your avatar right? Making fun of someone else's use of the term seems a little hypocritical.

Originally posted by ArrowsNV

Originally posted by LevelHeaded
This is just sickening. There is no reason to hand cuff a 6yo. I just cannot believe that someone could not have taken her outside to let her cool off and then to the principle's office for a principle-parent "chat".

Right?

What's she gonna do while in the back if she didn't have the cuffs on huh? Slip her hands through the grate in the patrol car and snap the cop's neck like a twig so she can escape? Ha! Yeah right!

America is a disgusting country these days, run by disgusting people, and their laws are enforced by morons.

How many times does someone have to say it was for her protection, and the other students. Not the cops. Get real ! What if your child attended that class, and got injured during her little outburst ? Would you feel the same way ?

What really disappoints me is the fact that nobody has mentioned her parents responsibility in all this. The child apparently has seen this kind of action result in someone getting their way by acting like this. If it were my child, her butt would hurt as much as her wrists when I got her home. It would be an embarrassment to see my child act this way. But, if this is the way she sees people act at home, then she doesn't know any better. I feel sorry for her.

reply to post by getreadyalready


I use the term all the time. When I am trying to get a point across I prefer not to use it though. Regardless of how you feel, you lose all credibility when you use slang.

Originally posted by ventian
reply to post by getreadyalready

 

I use the term all the time. When I am trying to get a point across I prefer not to use it though. Regardless of how you feel, you lose all credibility when you use slang.

just for future reference you also loose all credibility when you start shouting.

Originally posted by ventian
reply to post by getreadyalready

 

I use the term all the time. When I am trying to get a point across I prefer not to use it though. Regardless of how you feel, you lose all credibility when you use slang.

Agreed.

But, by page 14 of a thread, all logical argument has come and gone, and this is just manipulation and chest-pounding now. Slang might actually work better than articulately structured arguments.

reply to post by lacrimaererum


I understand that. I also apologized about it. But still, no one can provide any logical alternatives to what I have stated. We have eaten up this entire thread debating on trivial issues like shouting and slang. We have all made mistakes here, now lets get back on track and discuss the rights and wrongs. I have got to go to work now, I will see you guys later.

reply to post by getreadyalready


LOL

True story.

Not far enough removed from our ancestors yet. /sigh