The belief that Fallen Angels mated with human women

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Dude, you have a billion and 1 "why" questions, how about you bend that knee, get saved. And you can sit with Jesus and ask answers for all these absurd details you want answered.

As I've explained, I accept my just punishment of eternal torture.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
You've got eternity to have them all answered, and it might take half that long. (Joke, I know that's terrible Physics)

That was a good one.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
WHY CAN'T IT BE BOTH?

Why can't it be both what? All it says in Genesis 6 is that god saw the wickedness of man and it grieved him at his heart that he made man. But, if he was actually angry with the fallen angels producing offspring with mankind (however that happened), how is that mankind's fault? Did mankind have the power to resist the fallen angels? The bible doesn't say anything about god being angry with the fallen angels or the Nephilim. It only says he was angry with man. He even limited their days on earth before the flood occurred.

Originally posted by SisyphusRide
additionally this is why I do not believe Jesus was an alien... the book says "made in his image"

therefore is God was to reveal then it wouldn't be a foreign entity to us possibly at all.

space alien or not... imo.

Not really an alien, per se, more like an Alien/Human Hybrid, created by the EBON-2 Race, along with others like him, to correct certain mistakes.

reply to post by jhill76

The dinosaurs were before men. They were an experiment, when man was being planned.

The way I see it, Dinosaurs were before Humankind, in fact, Earth was a Saurian Planet before the Humans Species was introduced here. The Saurians were killed off little by little, party by ETs, partly by the Atlantians, and finally what was left fled to the underground, where they have lived for a very long time now. It was Humanity was was an Experiment, not Dinosaurs.

Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by jhill76

 

The dinosaurs were before men. They were an experiment, when man was being planned.

The way I see it, Dinosaurs were before Humankind, in fact, Earth was a Saurian Planet before the Humans Species was introduced here. The Saurians were killed off little by little, party by ETs, partly by the Atlantians, and finally what was left fled to the underground, where they have lived for a very long time now. It was Humanity was was an Experiment, not Dinosaurs.

Where is this information coming from? thanks..

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
WHY CAN'T IT BE BOTH?

Why can't it be both what? All it says in Genesis 6 is that god saw the wickedness of man and it grieved him at his heart that he made man. But, if he was actually angry with the fallen angels producing offspring with mankind (however that happened), how is that mankind's fault? Did mankind have the power to resist the fallen angels? The bible doesn't say anything about god being angry with the fallen angels or the Nephilim. It only says he was angry with man. He even limited their days on earth before the flood occurred.

Both an Earth full of wickedness and fallen angels mating with women. Nephilim were absurdly wicked. Their dead spirits are the "demons" of today. To have it only one or the other is to think the Nephillim were Teletubbies.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
WHY CAN'T IT BE BOTH?

Why can't it be both what? All it says in Genesis 6 is that god saw the wickedness of man and it grieved him at his heart that he made man. But, if he was actually angry with the fallen angels producing offspring with mankind (however that happened), how is that mankind's fault? Did mankind have the power to resist the fallen angels? The bible doesn't say anything about god being angry with the fallen angels or the Nephilim. It only says he was angry with man. He even limited their days on earth before the flood occurred.

Both an Earth full of wickedness and fallen angels mating with women. Nephilim were absurdly wicked. Their dead spirits are the "demons" of today. To have it only one or the other is to think the Nephillim were Teletubbies.

So do you think the fallen angels knew the flood was coming? Becuase some of the giants made it..

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Both an Earth full of wickedness and fallen angels mating with women. Nephilim were absurdly wicked. Their dead spirits are the "demons" of today. To have it only one or the other is to think the Nephillim were Teletubbies.

Why are you quoting information that is not included in "the word of god"? Does god have other "words" that aren't in the bible? If so, why didn't he put them in the bible with his other stuff?

I'm quoting what the bible says, not the Book of Enoch, a non-biblical book. Who cares that it was found with the Dead Sea Scrolls? Your god did not include it in the bible....apparently.

Anyway, does it makes sense for an omnipotent god to kill Nephilim with a flood, knowing that they will still be around in spirit form wreaking havoc? Why didn't he just destroy them completely? That doesn't make any sense.

Originally posted by lupr3
So do you think the fallen angels knew the flood was coming? Becuase some of the giants made it..

Yep, they did. Moses's scouts found them and felt like grasshoppers in their eyes. They must have been pretty big. Wonder why the omniscient god didn't know that they would survive? Again, he could snap his fingers and disintegrate their body and spirit.

Someone suggested that these people were products of a genetic disorder called Giganticism. Every one of them?

Have you ever thought that maybe angels were a referent to an alien race outside of earth? What if these supposed angels were really an alien race from another planet that came here and did mate with ancient women and this is how we ended up with so many different races of human beings on planet earth. Darwinism can't explain the different races appearing all around the globe at the same time. It would make sense and back then ancient people wouldn't have known to call them aliens to this world. They would have called them angels as they came from the sky. Ancient people didn't even know about our solar system or universe so how could they have known about an ancient alien race here. They wouldn't have...

Originally posted by TWISTEDWORDS
Have you ever thought that maybe angels were a referent to an alien race outside of earth? What if these supposed angels were really an alien race from another planet that came here and did mate with ancient women and this is how we ended up with so many different races of human beings on planet earth. Darwinism can't explain the different races appearing all around the globe at the same time. It would make sense and back then ancient people wouldn't have known to call them aliens to this world. They would have called them angels as they came from the sky. Ancient people didn't even know about our solar system or universe so how could they have known about an ancient alien race here. They wouldn't have...

That doesn't make any sense either. What you're saying is that on some other planet, creatures evolved into beings that just happen to be sexually compatible with humans on our planet that they could even produce offspring? Say what?!

reply to post by Hydroman


Didn't someone point out earlier in this thread that the Nephilim who were wiped out in the flood were sent to a spiritual prison or to the Abyss? Maybe I'm thinking of the book of Enoch here on this one.

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by Hydroman

 

Didn't someone point out earlier in this thread that the Nephilim who were wiped out in the flood were sent to a spiritual prison or to the Abyss? Maybe I'm thinking of the book of Enoch here on this one.

Yes, they are in the prison. This is written in Enoch as well as a few other books. The abyss is not occupied as of yet.

reply to post by autowrench

do you have any proof to back up your claims?

I do...

(Genesis KJV)

26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

(noting that evolutions missing link to humans can not be proven or presented)

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you strip away our implements and put us on a level playing field with the beasts of the wild and the elements... we wouldn't last very long, specially an individual or in small numbers.

that goes for our communication too...

(Genesis 11)

1: And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

6: And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

7: Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

8: So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

9: Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by Hydroman

 

Didn't someone point out earlier in this thread that the Nephilim who were wiped out in the flood were sent to a spiritual prison or to the Abyss? Maybe I'm thinking of the book of Enoch here on this one.

I believe the abyss is for the fallen angels. The half human, half angel souls are now demons roaming the earth as a result of a curse put on by God for what the angels did.. or something like that. I believe the flood is one part... The atmospheric conditions that were present after the flood was the real target effect.. Life was shortened after because of more radiation present. With a shorter life span, I theorize that the relationship between man and God was distanced.

reply to post by lupr3

Where is this information coming from? thanks..

Uhhh....I read, friend. Books, lots of books. Reading four right now. What kind of question was that, anyway?

Originally posted by lupr3

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
WHY CAN'T IT BE BOTH?

Why can't it be both what? All it says in Genesis 6 is that god saw the wickedness of man and it grieved him at his heart that he made man. But, if he was actually angry with the fallen angels producing offspring with mankind (however that happened), how is that mankind's fault? Did mankind have the power to resist the fallen angels? The bible doesn't say anything about god being angry with the fallen angels or the Nephilim. It only says he was angry with man. He even limited their days on earth before the flood occurred.

Both an Earth full of wickedness and fallen angels mating with women. Nephilim were absurdly wicked. Their dead spirits are the "demons" of today. To have it only one or the other is to think the Nephillim were Teletubbies.

So do you think the fallen angels knew the flood was coming? Becuase some of the giants made it..

I think it's irrelevant. They had no change of holding back the judgment of God.

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Both an Earth full of wickedness and fallen angels mating with women. Nephilim were absurdly wicked. Their dead spirits are the "demons" of today. To have it only one or the other is to think the Nephillim were Teletubbies.

Why are you quoting information that is not included in "the word of god"? Does god have other "words" that aren't in the bible? If so, why didn't he put them in the bible with his other stuff?

I'm quoting what the bible says, not the Book of Enoch, a non-biblical book. Who cares that it was found with the Dead Sea Scrolls? Your god did not include it in the bible....apparently.

Anyway, does it makes sense for an omnipotent god to kill Nephilim with a flood, knowing that they will still be around in spirit form wreaking havoc? Why didn't he just destroy them completely? That doesn't make any sense.

Jude quotes from the Book of Enoch. Only inspired books are in the Bible. And Paul quotes 3 pagan poets when preaching to the pagans at Mars Hill. You're the one asking the questions here man, just trying to give you legitimate answers. Does it really matter at the end of the day if I only quote the Bible? I can just reply with verses all day to you if you want me to do that. It's not very loving, but whatever, this is all about you anyways so let me know.

reply to post by Hydroman

Someone suggested that these people were products of a genetic disorder called Giganticism. Every one of them?

Those who suffer from that are extremely weak, these men were the "men of renown", fierce fighters. The ancient Indian tales speak of men who while running could scoop up a buffalo and rip it's head off. These Nephillim built all the monolith structures around the world, they swung 7 foot axes that are on display at Baghdad Museum.

reply to post by TWISTEDWORDS

Have you ever thought that maybe angels were a referent to an alien race outside of earth?

That's what angels are, entities that are extra-dimensional and not "Earth-born".