I would like to thank Christians

For messing up my personal sex-life by telling me that sex is a sin. Now I can't enjoy it anymore because I feel guilty and like a whore while I only had one single sexpartner.

Now, this is what extremist/fundemental preeching can do with people who have done nothing wrong. Make them feel guilty and worthless so that hey will follow YOU instead of following the "real guidelines" of Christianity...

You are quite welcome. By the way, you are also a lying thief, and a blasphemer like the rest of the human race. The good news is that God is rich in mercy, so if you repent and put your trust in the savior Jesus Christ, will be forgiven.

Originally posted by kingofmd
You are quite welcome. By the way, you are also a lying thief, and a blasphemer like the rest of the human race. The good news is that God is rich in mercy, so if you repent and put your trust in the savior Jesus Christ, will be forgiven.

How much do I have to pay to the church for that "salvation" ?

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Boy, must have been a really disappointing Saturday nite, huh?

Why feel guilty about sex outside of marriage? You obviously felt it was all good up to this point, so why blame Christians for feeling that you are fornicating now?

I do not understand people, at all.

Originally posted by yougetwhatyoudeserve

Originally posted by kingofmd
You are quite welcome. By the way, you are also a lying thief, and a blasphemer like the rest of the human race. The good news is that God is rich in mercy, so if you repent and put your trust in the savior Jesus Christ, will be forgiven.

How much do I have to pay to the church for that "salvation" ?

I didn't see them mention a 'church' anywhere in this post. Just the truth of salvation.

Why feeling so itchy-twitchy?

Originally posted by jennybee35
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Boy, must have been a really disappointing Saturday nite, huh?

Why feel guilty about sex outside of marriage? You obviously felt it was all good up to this point, so why blame Christians for feeling that you are fornicating now?

I do not understand people, at all.

Back in the days I was intrested in Christianity, so I was reading a lot of it on the internet and in books (My mom even bought me a bible). I Also visited forums, but they were full of the "sex before/after marriage kind of thing". To me it looked like that christians are obsessed with sex before marriage, and that it is an absolute sin and one of the worst acts a human can do. Also the way they told these "anti sex" sory's, it felt to me that they really believe that humans have sex every night with different partners. But I only had one, so...

Now I turned over to Judaism, I am not Jewish but I am very intrested in it and they don't have that stiff and extreme "sex before/after marriage" obsessed like thing like the Christians seem to have.

Originally posted by yougetwhatyoudeserve
For messing up my personal sex-life by telling me that sex is a sin. Now I can't enjoy it anymore because I feel guilty and like a whore while I only had one single sexpartner.

Now, this is what extremist/fundemental preeching can do with people who have done nothing wrong. Make them feel guilty and worthless so that hey will follow YOU instead of following the "real guidelines" of Christianity...

No one can "make" you feel anything without your permission. Don't give away your power.

You choose your reactions, your responses, your attitude. So choose to react differently. It takes practice, but you can do it.

Good luck!

Originally posted by yougetwhatyoudeserve
For messing up my personal sex-life by telling me that sex is a sin. Now I can't enjoy it anymore because I feel guilty and like a whore while I only had one single sexpartner.

Now, this is what extremist/fundemental preeching can do with people who have done nothing wrong. Make them feel guilty and worthless so that hey will follow YOU instead of following the "real guidelines" of Christianity...

First I'd like to say that Christianity isn't the only religion or belief that thinks its proper, right and good to wait until you're in love and/or married. Hell, there are even studies that show that people who are virgins when they marry are more likely to have a successful marriage. So don't be an extremist yourself and just blame all YOUR problems on someone else.

Secondly, guilt is all a matter of your own mindset. If YOU don't really think its bad then you'd feel no guilt. If you don't REALLY think its bad then you'd act according to that belief and not let yourself feel guilty. Guilt wouldn't even be entertained by you. You'd be so oblivious to guilt. So, again, quit blaming your problems on someone else.

There's always going to be someone out there, whatever their beliefs, who disagrees with whatever it is you will do with your life. Are you going to just constantly blame those people too? Get over yourself and be true to yourself. Live by what you believe is true.

That's not to say just go have sex. It's meant to say that you need to let truth be your guide. And truth doesn't always feel good. And truth is a road journeyed to find honest answers and beliefs. Truth is not JUST doing whatever feels good or rejecting that which may make you feel bad. You need to think about your own actions and thoughts and be sure you're making wise decisions. Beneficial decisions.

Christians also say stealing is a sin, but we don't have thieves making threads about how downtrodden some Christians have made them feel. Again, get over it. YOU either believe sex is bad...or not. Pick one.

Your problem is that you actually don't really know what you believe.

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Hey that is not Christians making you feel that way, it is your conscious.
PLPL

Yeah, do what you want to do! Just ask for forgiveness! My church had the nerve to say good people dont get into heaven and being a good person has nothing to do with getting into heaven, That if a criminal and good person were side by side the criminal that ask to be forgiven would get in and the other person no matter how good they were would not. WTF!

the best way to feel better OP would be to put some money in the collection plate.

wait a minute...
what about those priests that had sex with multiple victims and then when caught, claimed they did nothing wrong..?

there's your problem OP:
you had heterosexual relations with a consenting adult
shame on you.

Originally posted by kingofmd
You are quite welcome. By the way, you are also a lying thief, and a blasphemer like the rest of the human race. The good news is that God is rich in mercy, so if you repent and put your trust in the savior Jesus Christ, will be forgiven.

If you lie once, does that make you a liar? If you steal once does that make you a thief? If so, what if you tell the truth once? Does that make you a truth teller? What if you had a chance to steal but didn't? Does that make you not a thief?

Who cares what hypocritical Christians think other than hypocritical Christians?
Oh wait, all the people they persecute for being different probably care too.

Originally posted by kingofmd
The good news is that God is rich in mercy, so if you repent and put your trust in the savior Jesus Christ, will be forgiven.

What if you don't? What's the bad news?

Originally posted by yougetwhatyoudeserve
For messing up my personal sex-life by telling me that sex is a sin. Now I can't enjoy it anymore because I feel guilty and like a whore while I only had one single sexpartner.

Now, this is what extremist/fundemental preeching can do with people who have done nothing wrong. Make them feel guilty and worthless so that hey will follow YOU instead of following the "real guidelines" of Christianity...

If you know their stance is bunk, why let it affect you?

You shouldn't feel guilty unless you align with their stance on the issue. So I'm really confused as to your stance.

Originally posted by kingofmd
You are quite welcome. By the way, you are also a lying thief, and a blasphemer like the rest of the human race. The good news is that God is rich in mercy, so if you repent and put your trust in the savior Jesus Christ, will be forgiven.

Nice job completely doing exactly what the OP was talking about, proving his point.

I can't tell if that was just incredibly dense, a troll, or a joke.

There are nice, acceptable, tolerant Christians, then there's those who make statements like you just did. If they were all the former kind, the OP wouldn't have anything to complain about.

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I think it was somekind of sarcastic joke, at least, I hope it was..

I am Muslim by the way, but I want to say a few words.

First, sex and the desire of sex are perfectly natural things and they are gifts from God, and a source of blessing to the people.

This said, Islam says that there is a time for sex, out of respect for yourself, your body, your heart, your mind. This time is within a marriage, because it is within such an institution of mutual love and respect that it becomes a blessing to you, otherwise it is the act of an animal, and as such a passing moment of a purely physical nature rather than the holistic one intended by GOD..

Perhaps you felt guilt because you went against human nature and rather experienced an fulfilling moment that was passing? I am not judging, I am just stating it as a possibility.

So, if you are desiring sex, as is perfectly natural, consider doing it in a manner where you feel respected, in body, heart and mind. Many men want marriage, just look for the right one for you.



And I agree with Words are Avenues, I gave him a star, you should read what he said more than once.

Originally posted by yzfr6003
Yeah, do what you want to do! Just ask for forgiveness! My church had the nerve to say good people dont get into heaven and being a good person has nothing to do with getting into heaven, That if a criminal and good person were side by side the criminal that ask to be forgiven would get in and the other person no matter how good they were would not. WTF!

And this shows that Jesus hates sinners how?

Sounds like you don't have as much grace as he does.

Good works isn't always a measure of "goodness". Besides, who is to say that your "good works" are even good?

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So why do you feel so guilty about it? It can't be just because some people say that it is wrong. It has to be because you FEEL that it is wrong and are fighting that part of your own conscience. That's a whole other dilemma, see?

I am a follower of The Way (Yeshua) and do not go to a church, so I don't have any idea what is being taught about pre-marital sex and so forth. Doesn't really matter what anyone else says, anyway. You have to decide what is right or wrong for yourself, what you can live with.

My main issue with sex outside marriage is all the consequences that come with it. How prepared are you for the inevitable fallout from having sex with someone you may or may not be in love with/ committed to? Are you a committed couple that knows the other is disease free, monogamous and ready to be there for one another forever?

Are either of you ready to welcome another life into your world if the consequences of sex are pregnancy? Would they be there to support you if a life-altering event were to change the way you live? For myself, the giving of my body is NOT casual. It entails entwining my life with another human soul, therefore has to be carefully and gravely considered.

To me, these are the main concerns with sex, not what anyone else thinks is right. I believe that is why Yahweh made such a point of the sex-outside-marriage issue. He knows all the consequences of it, and wants you to understand that it can be a beautiful thing when two people are mature and committed, but disastrous for the unprepared. The majority of people never bother to consider what comes after the act.

Originally posted by Jameela
This said, Islam says that there is a time for sex, out of respect for yourself, your body, your heart, your mind. This time is within a marriage, because it is within such an institution of mutual love and respect that it becomes a blessing to you, otherwise it is the act of an animal, and as such a passing moment of a purely physical nature rather than the holistic one intended by GOD

Did that come from Mohammed? Wasn't he a pedophile?