Quakes that have hit Fukushima since 10 am (utc) today

Issued at Occurred at Region Name Magnitude Maximum seismic intensity

21:20 JST 13 Apr 2012 21:15 JST 13 Apr 2012 Fukushima-ken Oki M3.4 1
21:16 JST 13 Apr 2012 21:12 JST 13 Apr 2012 Fukushima-ken Oki M5.2 3
20:09 JST 13 Apr 2012 20:04 JST 13 Apr 2012 Fukushima-ken Oki M4.0 1
19:38 JST 13 Apr 2012 19:33 JST 13 Apr 2012 Fukushima-ken Oki M4.1 2
19:21 JST 13 Apr 2012 19:16 JST 13 Apr 2012 Fukushima-ken Oki M4.5 2
19:21 JST 13 Apr 2012 19:10 JST 13 Apr 2012 Fukushima-ken Oki M5.9 4

Not sure how much more this place can take.

www.jma.go.jp...

I think Japan is used to having small earthquakes sometimes on a daily basis.

www.youtube.com...

Video from 8-9 jst today. Watch from 20 secs in. Looks like 3 different light sources go down. Hopefully intentionally.

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
I think Japan is used to having small earthquakes sometimes on a daily basis.

Im sure it is. More concerned about the crippled nuclear complex in that area.

reply to post by murch


These quakes are going to continue for the next couple of years I believe. Collapse IMO is inevitable, maybe not today but it will happen eventually.

The question must be asked, Is Fukashima going to be an Extinction Level Event?

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
I think Japan is used to having small earthquakes sometimes on a daily basis.

Depending on how shallow and how close to the Crippled Nuclear Plant they are. These quakes are definitely not going to help matters.

And another.

Magnitude
5.0
Date-Time
Friday, April 13, 2012 at 12:12:06 UTC
Friday, April 13, 2012 at 09:12:06 PM at epicenter
Location
36.984°N, 141.235°E
Depth
35.2 km (21.9 miles)
Region
NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
Distances
31 km (19 miles) ESE (107°) from Iwaki, Honshu, Japan
96 km (60 miles) NE (44°) from Mito, Honshu, Japan
107 km (67 miles) SE (141°) from Fukushima, Honshu, Japan
198 km (123 miles) NE (42°) from TOKYO, Japan
Location Uncertainty
horizontal +/- 16.5 km (10.3 miles); depth +/- 7.3 km (4.5 miles)
Parameters
NST=243, Nph=246, Dmin=275 km, Rmss=0.9 sec, Gp=119°,
M-type=body wave magnitude (Mb), Version=7
Source
Magnitude: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Location: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Event ID
usc00092n5

reply to post by TheMindWar


Why would Fukushima be an ELE? Is that based on anything at all?

Appears to be a bit of fear mongering unless you have anything to back up that claim?

reply to post by TheMindWar


There is no way Fukushima would be an ELE.

Now if all nuclear power stations blew worldwide, then you may have your ELE.

Originally posted by skitzspiricy
reply to post by TheMindWar

 

There is no way, Fukushima would be an ELE.

Now if all nuclear power stations blew worldwide, then you may have your ELE.

Possibly.

The possibility that is never discussed is that it would trigger the next great round of evolution on the planet.

Some recent research appears to indicate (early days so may change yet) that periods of extra intense cosmic radiation bombardment have actually led evolution on this planet. It was rather an in depth article and my science is pretty sucky but the basic meat of the article was that every ...... (insert number of millions of years) the planet has been bombarded by extra intense cosmic radiation and these seem to coincide with huge bursts of evolution amongst life on earth.

Whilst this appears both plausible and likely, at the same time i am not saying i fancy all our nuclear plants going haywire so we can test the hypothesis!

Just wanted to try and embed vid



Watch for flash of light at ground level at around 9 secs then 20 secs in as 3 light sources go out. Power issues?

Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by TheMindWar

 

Why would Fukushima be an ELE? Is that based on anything at all?

Appears to be a bit of fear mongering unless you have anything to back up that claim?

sure it's based on something, the amount of MOX in #3 alone could do us great damage let alone the overall amount of waste entering our environment 24/7. it's cumulative in nature and persistent for 10s to 1000s of years, depending on the isotopes. the water they are using to cool the reactors is continually being dumped into the pacific ocean. they have no plan or means to stop this currently, it's melting into the ground and will be hot for quite a long time.

you have 4 reactors in total and none of them are being contained, they are just kicking the can down the road hoping for a miracle. if #4 should collapse it would certainly be epic in nature. Fuku has the very real potential of killing billions of people in the not so distant future and effecting life on earth for 10s of thousands of years.

i wouldn't call that fear mongering, just facing facts as they currently are, unfortunately.

reply to post by LittleBlackEagle


Disagree entirely to be honest.

Yes there would be health implications, particularly within Japan itself. How would that affect, for example, Europe? Look at Chernobyl these days. Yes it is still highly radioactive but nature has returned and that wasn't really that long ago was it?

However, you clearly know more about this than me so could you explain more clearly why Fukushima has the potential to be an ELE? Saying there is a lot of MOX isn't any use unless you happen to be a nuclear physicist or technician...... I mean where do you get that statement from that it has the potential to kill billions? I really find that hard to believe but i may be being naieve.

Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by LittleBlackEagle

 

Disagree entirely to be honest.

Yes there would be health implications, particularly within Japan itself. How would that affect, for example, Europe? Look at Chernobyl these days. Yes it is still highly radioactive but nature has returned and that wasn't really that long ago was it?

However, you clearly know more about this than me so could you explain more clearly why Fukushima has the potential to be an ELE? Saying there is a lot of MOX isn't any use unless you happen to be a nuclear physicist or technician...... I mean where do you get that statement from that it has the potential to kill billions? I really find that hard to believe but i may be being naieve.

edit on 13-4-2012 by Flavian because: (no reason given)

I find it strange that you would "disagree entirely," but have obviously not been following this story enough to have learned what MOX is. Most of us learned about MOX fuel and the PLUTONIUM it contains last March.

reply to post by chericher


I just do not see how one nuclear plant falling into the sea can cause an ELE. At the end of the day, we see fear mongering every day on ATS and yet guess what? The planet is still here. We still live and breathe on it. There isn't an alien overlord on every street corner. There isn't super volcanic eruptions going off all over the place. People are still living in Japan...........

So before more insults start flying in, how about a bit of constructive information instead?

ETA:

Ok, MOX is a mixture of Uranium and Plutonium and therefore potentially far more dangerous. Still, however, how about this?

“The bottom line is that if you have an uncontrolled accident and release, then MOX fuel will raise your health and safety risks.” “I wouldn’t call it a ‘game changer,’” said Paul Carroll, who has worked on nuclear weapons production and waste management issues for nearly 20 years in Congress, the Energy Department, and now at Ploughshares Fund, a nonproliferation organization in San Francisco. “But it could change the nature of what could happen if it’s released. The bottom line is that if you have an uncontrolled accident and release, then MOX fuel will raise your health and safety risks.”

reply to post by chericher


No come back then for the quote from the nuclear expert saying it is not a game changer?

Thought not.......

When radioactive seaweeds are already washing ashore in the west coast states, and the radiation levels have increased dramatically in diverse places which have recieved excess of fallout.
When the drinking water of the nation has been irradiated with fallout from fukishima will you call it bull doooey then?
Already this has happened,and more is on the way.....why not an ELE?
Its entirely possible to kill off most of the pacific ocean with the radiaton leakages and water dumping....
There is no real work being done on the plants its all just a wait and see game they are playing.....
truth to tell they dont have a clue as what to do about it...so it will fester there for a half a billion years.....i said 500,000,000,yrs

reply to post by stirling


I thought that testing in the sea had found no significant increases in radiation levels? Although they did qualify that by stating they were not to allowed to test within either 30km or 30 miles from the coast of Fukushima (can't remember which).

In fact the scientist in charge actually stated he would have no issues eating sea food from where they were testing. That said, it didn't say who was paying him to conduct these tests - if it was a Japanese Sea Food company it may put a different slant on it!

reply to post by murch


Here's a link to an animated map of all EQ's that have hit since March 11th of last year. It's a pretty cool color interactive map. It's one of my favorite links .. www.newscientist.com...

reply to post by RoyalBlue


Thanks for the link. Lot going on in that area.

Check out the reactor live here:

radioactive.eu.com...