American Mass Graves

Hmm...check out these pics. Looks to me like a whole lot of dead Westerners in Iraq.

Mass Graves

Are the numbers of casualties in Iraq being reported correctly? Or is there a cover up on how many soldiers are getting killed?

Let me get this straight you think that marines are allowing their fallen compatriots to be pushed into mass graves to hide body counts�.ludicrous, if you ever find yourself in a combat zone, remember one thing; never suggest that. You might find your self with a fragmentation wedgie. One thing that will never be misreported by the military will be the casualties in a combat zone.

Never in a million years would the US put there fallen soldiers in a mass grave, I could never see it happen.

I never said anything chap, just posting some info i came across. So calm down, and stop with the personal attacks.

I am well aware that you Americans have a penchant for retrieving dead people and getting more killed in the process (Black Hawk Down....)

Onto topic, they are more than likely Mercs, but they are undeniably Western. On one body there is celtic style tatoo (very popular and fashionable in the west right now), and there is Alcohol Bottles etc etc... try taking a look at the pictures before having a fit mate, and remember, this is the ever deceitful Government we're relying on for how many get killed.

Also, on you comment about casualties in the war zone "never being covered up".... It has been common practice in War that you hide casualty figures. During WW2, for example, you never got an accurate picture of what happened and how many got killed until after the war was over. Makes sense as you dont want to publicise that the enemy is killing lots of your men do you?

[edit on 25-9-2004 by stumason]

Sorry didn`t see sixteen bodies.saw one that was of western appearance that hasn`t been dead for long period and left buried.They didn`t show anything to back up the claim there were mass graves.

look at the fourth picture down. looks like a few black bags there. Anyway, i dont know if they are true or not, but I am merely highlighting it for attention






[edit on 25-9-2004 by stumason]

I have been saying for some time that it was possible that those units which recieved such greatly extended tours probably suffered heavy casualties early which were not reported, so we stuck them in the rear where nobody else would get hurt and started explaining away the casualities with months and months of "insurgent attacks".

I don't necessarily believe that there are hundreds of secret casualties, but there are little things that get my attention. The few guys who I have talked to who were there have seen way too many casualties. Were they just in really unlucky units, or does it mean something?

Time will tell. Eventually the boys come home or they don't. Of course it's possible that those pics were of mercs, or just fakes.


EDIT:
I agree with holmes that it would never be kept down if we were doing that to our boys. IF there are secret casualties, they are not going into mass graves- they just aren't being reported right away.
I was a Marine, and I can count on 2 fingers the men there who I feared might sell me out- and I was probably wrong even about those two. Nobody is just kicking their brothers into a ditch and forgetting about them.

If there are mass graves, it's mercinaries, or completely anhilated squads burried either by their killers or by the locals.

[edit on 25-9-2004 by The Vagabond]

Originally posted by stumason
look at the fourth picture down. looks like a few black bags there. Anyway, i dont know if they are true or not, but I am merely highlighting it for attention


Could be anything in them.The link to the other site shows some dramatic dead people but to id them would be impossible via there appearance.Unable to id either westerners or arabs.They could have been left from the 1st gulf war.






[edit on 25-9-2004 by stumason]

www.islamonline.net...

anyone read this?

This is very interesting; I did a search and no where I can find anything about US missing in action soldiers.

The pictures are very interesting; I wish were more information available on these events.

I have to say that we are very aware of death toll of soldiers in Iraq but when it comes to missing in actions is not much you can find.

Perhaps something will come out in the following days if this is true.

Originally posted by keholmes
Let me get this straight you think that marines are allowing their fallen compatriots to be pushed into mass graves to hide body counts�.ludicrous, if you ever find yourself in a combat zone, remember one thing; never suggest that. You might find your self with a fragmentation wedgie. One thing that will never be misreported by the military will be the casualties in a combat zone.

Sorry....but you shouldn't try to put a spin on this topic by labeling
anyone who dare suggest the military death stats are being downplayed
as being "anti-Marine." We've heard the same manipulation
being used in regards to "supporting the troops." If you want to bring them home....you aren't supporting them, right? Please. Enough with the
attacks!!

I strongly believe the fatality numbers are much higher then whats being
reported in the media. It's logical to assume so. The involuntary recall
of 5600 retired servicemembers which took place this summer indicates
a major gap needs to be filled.

(And why haven't we heard about any MIAs?)

No one is discrediting the Marine Core; one would assume orders
to keep mum about the numbers comes from a higher source.





[edit on 25-9-2004 by bushblows]

Originally posted by bushblows
I strongly believe the fatality numbers are much higher then whats being
reported in the media. It's logical to assume so. The involuntary recall
of 5600 retired servicemembers which took place this summer indicates
a major gap needs to be filled.

(And why haven't we heard about any MIAs?)

No one is discrediting the Marine Core; one would assume orders
to keep mum about the numbers comes from a higher source.

Your assumptions are the figment of your demented mind. In all probability, these are special ops soldiers who operate clandistinely. Their operations are highly classified as would be their combat status. Of course this information comes from the enemy and is used here by their operatives, volunatary or otherwise.

The US military has no motive to cover up combat fatalties nor effective means to do so. All of these individuals have connections to the world outside of Iraq and eventually their dispostions would be called into question.

Those who come to this site to champion the cause of America's enemies in the guise of election partisanship, or as conspiracy theorists are the propagandists of the internet--the Tokyo Roses, the Jane Fondas, the Badhdad Bettys, the Axis Sallys. Your whereabouts may be unknown, but your agendas are transparent and you turn my stomach.



[edit on 04/9/25 by GradyPhilpott]

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Those who come to this site to champion the cause of America's enemies in the guise of election partisanship, or as conspiracy theorists are the propagandists of the internet--the Tokyo Roses, the Jane Fondas, the Badhdad Bettys, the Axis Sallys. Your whereabouts may be unknown, but your agendas are transparent and you turn my stomach.

Who are you? Michael Savage?

Anyway, if you're not a conspiracy theorist, what are you doing on this message board? Trying to heckle the crowd?

I take that back. All conservative radio talk show hosts like Savage are conspiracy theorists. Always trying to tie any little thing wrong with the current administration to Clinton. Four years after his reign ended.

[edit on 25-9-2004 by heelstone]

Originally posted by heelstone
Anyway, if you're not a conspiracy theorist, what are you doing on this message board? Trying to heckle the crowd?

There are conspiracies and there are conspiracies. Whatever else I may be I am genuine and I present myself as I am. I'm here to Deny Ignorance. What are you doing here?

Your assumptions are the figment of your demented mind. In all probability, these are special ops soldiers who operate clandistinely. Their operations are highly classified as would be their combat status. Of course this information comes from the enemy and is used here by their operatives, volunatary or otherwise.

The US military has no motive to cover up combat fatalties nor effective means to do so. All of these individuals have connections to the world outside of Iraq and eventually their dispostions would be called into question.

Those who come to this site to champion the cause of America's enemies in the guise of election partisanship, or as conspiracy theorists are the propagandists of the internet--the Tokyo Roses, the Jane Fondas, the Badhdad Bettys, the Axis Sallys. Your whereabouts may be unknown, but your agendas are transparent and you turn my stomach.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.....ooh, must breath.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

never laughed so much in all my life. You miserable lonely old fart! I am an agent of your enmies? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, best one yet!

Ok, I admit it, my real name is Abdul Al Mohammed, and I am a Jihadi, who's mission is to spread disinfo on message boards around the globe. But alas, I have been discovered, and no must go back to my original mission of developing suicide Goat bombers......

Seriously dude, brainwashed or what! I bet if Bush came to your house (or anyone from the Government) you would not only lick his arse squeeky clean, you would bend over too! Resorting to personal attacks like this is low, as I was just surfing away and got linked to that site. i thought people might have been interested, but for you too come on here and spout you verbal diarrhea and attack me as an Islamist, when clearly i am not, is depressing.

Originally posted by stumason
You miserable lonely old fart!

You should watch your language. I call them the way I see them. I don't believe I addressed you at all, but if the shoe fits, wear it. My life is rich and full, thanks. You would do well to live a life as interesting as mine.

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Originally posted by stumason

You miserable lonely old fart!

Originally posted by stumason

Resorting to personal attacks like this is low

come on man....



[edit on 25-9-2004 by Creepy]

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
There are conspiracies and there are conspiracies. Whatever else I may be I am genuine and I present myself as I am. I'm here to Deny Ignorance. What are you doing here?

The manner in which you post where you go after the posters of this message board seems to me to be counterproductive for communication here. You are doing a fine job of alienating yourself and making your posts appear to simply be attacks on members by avoiding any standard of civil discourse. Trolling is another word for it online.

As for me I'm here trying to separate the wheat from the chaff in conspiracy and at least trying not to look like a jerk doing it.

I would rather have my own life, where I can make my own choices, and have my own opinions, rather than what my Gov has told me.

My life is richer and fuller than you could imagine, with the addition of my baby daughter, I care what is going on around the planet, and wish to see her grow up and have a full and enjoyable life.

You did refer to me, as you said

. Of course this information comes from the enemy and is used here by their operatives, volunatary or otherwise.

and

Those who come to this site to champion the cause of America's enemies in the guise of election partisanship, or as conspiracy theorists are the propagandists of the internet

Biggest load of dogtripe i have heard for a long time, but i am sure more will follow.

Creepy... I know I contradicted myself there, but as Americans constantly claim, i have the right to self defence. If he is going to stoop so low as to call me an agent of his enemy, then I will call him a miserable old fart....its the least i can do.

Originally posted by stumason
You did refer to me, as you said

Of course this information comes from the enemy and is used here by their operatives, volunatary or otherwise.

These are the enemy of which I spoke:

www.albasrah.net...

and

Those who come to this site to champion the cause of America's enemies in the guise of election partisanship, or as conspiracy theorists are the propagandists of the internet

Again, this statement was not addressed to you, but others (operatives) who chose to come to this thread and express their anti-American vitriol and to answer your question:

Are the numbers of casualties in Iraq being reported correctly? Or is there a cover up on how many soldiers are getting killed?

But, as I said, if the shoe fits, wear it.