Where is the Full Length Pentagon Video OF 911?

I need to do some research and pull up these testimonies I was reading in a news article that said some woman actually touched the bottom of the plane right before it flew into the Pentagon. LMAO Are you kidding me?

I heard that story on here.
It was susposed to come from a tour guard at the Pentagon. Stories get embellished over time. I don’t think too many people believe it either.

But it’s far reach to get people to assume they saw a plane if the general parameters didn’t match a plane. You could never get me to believe it was a plane if I didn’t see something really big fly by. A missile wouldn't cut it.

Originally posted by samkent

I need to do some research and pull up these testimonies I was reading in a news article that said some woman actually touched the bottom of the plane right before it flew into the Pentagon. LMAO Are you kidding me?

But it’s far reach to get people to assume they saw a plane if the general parameters didn’t match a plane. You could never get me to believe it was a plane if I didn’t see something really big fly by. A missile wouldn't cut it.

I totally agree with you, but that doesn't mean that it couldn't have been something else resembling a plane. I just really wish they'd release whatever footage they're withholding. I know a lot of believers of the O.S. like to assume the Pentagon had only 1 camera watching the entire thing, but I just really see something wrong with that. I know I have no proof either but I think it's more logical to assume there'd be more cameras watching the Pentagon since there's some classified/secret ish going down inside. Do you get what I'm saying?

reply to post by homervb

I just really wish they'd release whatever footage they're withholding.

Exactly what video are they witholding?

I know a lot of believers of the O.S. like to assume the Pentagon had only 1 camera watching the entire thing, but I just really see something wrong with that.

1 camera? Now, I assume that's a little hyperbole, that being said, why do you assume every square inch of the entire exterior of the building was under constant electronic recorded surveillance?

I know I have no proof either but I think it's more logical to assume there'd be more cameras watching the Pentagon since there's some classified/secret ish going down inside.

More than what exactly? There was an FOIA request specific to Flight 77 impacting the building. They released the one video that was responsive to that request. Results? The conspirasphere went crazy claiming it was fake, altered, incomplete, etc. In other words, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I guess they would have better off stating that they never release any footage from any camera on Pentagon soil due to national security reasons. Releasing that one video has made some tin hatters hair stand up.

Now if they did fake the impact you would expect this to cross their minds.
"At some point someone might press for a FOIA release of footage. We had better get cracking and produce some footage that will satisfy all the questions."

These are the same super smart people that rigged WTC 1&2 for demo without anyone finding out? Right?
These are the same people that faked the footage on all the worlds media of the WTC strikes? Right?

They had years after the fact to use newer computer software to create the fake footage. From several angles. All we got was a few frames.

If you add up the trillions descrepancy, the intel that didn't get to where it was needed, the a$$ covering and all the other things they could have done, but didn't, these few frames at the Pentagon is all they really had.
It just fits the pattern of government operations. All screwed up.

Originally posted by hooper

Exactly what video are they withholding?

Like I said, I have no proof. I blatantly said it makes more sense to ASSUME the Pentagon has multiple cameras rather than think they're really that low in budget. Calm your nerves child.

1 camera? Now, I assume that's a little hyperbole, that being said, why do you assume every square inch of the entire exterior of the building was under constant electronic recorded surveillance?

As stated, the Pentagon has highly classified materials, I don't see how that one budget-ass camera to the side of the building is the only thing they're depending on. I could seriously run up on the lawn, and climb into one of those windows. I know you believe it really is like that but honestly you're not giving our gov't enough credit.

More than what exactly? There was an FOIA request specific to Flight 77 impacting the building. They released the one video that was responsive to that request. Results? The conspirasphere went crazy claiming it was fake, altered, incomplete, etc. In other words, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

As stated, I'm talking about the existence of multiple cameras on the exterior of that wing. If video did exist and the conspiracy holds true, then I don't think they would submit it to be put into a database or on record. And you're right, damned if you do, damned if you don't, I'm not preaching, I'm trying to discuss with limited hostility from the OS Troops.

Personally I feel that if you take away the eyewitness testimony then the only proof of a plane you have at the Pentagon is scraps found on the lawn and a hole in the wall. There's been no documentaries on the Pentagon like there was for the WTC. There's no recorded testimony from the firemen/rescue workers that day, no testimony from those who survived within the Pentagon...I feel like the issue was pushed aside. There's a WTC movie, a Flight 93 film but nothing at all about the Pentagon (or nothing that I'm not aware of).

Does anyone get what I'm saying and can you please respond without hostility lol

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Then you believe in Lies, and Cover-ups the Media and have no account or desire for the TRUTH...

reply to post by homervb

As stated, the Pentagon has highly classified materials, I don't see how that one budget-ass camera to the side of the building is the only thing they're depending on. I could seriously run up on the lawn, and climb into one of those windows. I know you believe it really is like that but honestly you're not giving our gov't enough credit.

That is why Pentagon has a large armed guard force which in constantly patroling both the the interior and
grounds

Originally posted by homervb
I don't see how that one budget-ass camera to the side of the building is the only thing they're depending on.

What makes you think that is all they were depending on?

I could seriously run up on the lawn, and climb into one of those windows.

How would you get it open?

What makes you think the outside windows could be opened?

Originally posted by homervb

Personally I feel that if you take away the eyewitness testimony then the only proof of a plane you have at the Pentagon is scraps found on the lawn and a hole in the wall.

Most would take the eyewitness statements as proof enough, but.....

There were plane parts found inside as well as the A-E drive, IIRC.RADAR returns of the plane's flight in its entirety. A NG pilot watched it fly into the Pentagon. the air traffic controllers from nearby watched it fly down outta sight, never to return. DNA from the passengers were found. the damage pattern of the columns inside the Pentagon are in agreement with the plane's flight path......

There's a LOT of different paths of evidence that show that there was a plane that hit the Pentagon. All these paths converge to prove one point:

Flight 77 hit the pentagon.

There's no recorded testimony from the firemen/rescue workers that day,

there is.

no testimony from those who survived within the Pentagon

There is.

I feel like the issue was pushed aside.

The 93 movie was done for obvious reasons - it is a good story that media whores can make a buck off of.

The tower docus are also a good money makers.

It's just that simple. No money to be made with the Pentagon story...

reply to post by Fluffaluffagous

Most would take the eyewitness statements as proof enough, but.....

Reminded me of eyewitness Lloyd England.. not the light pole story, but a statement he made to a media reporter regarding Zacarias Moussaoui trial.

He sais that he wants to know why Moussaoui is taking responsibilaty for 9/11.

www.dailymotion.com...

reply to post by homervb

I totally agree with you, but that doesn't mean that it couldn't have been something else resembling a plane. I just really wish they'd release whatever footage they're withholding. I know a lot of believers of the O.S. like to assume the Pentagon had only 1 camera watching the entire thing, but I just really see something wrong with that. I know I have no proof either but I think it's more logical to assume there'd be more cameras watching the Pentagon since there's some classified/secret ish going down inside. Do you get what I'm saying?

There is nothing that could give the physical experience of a large object passing over head except a passenger airliner.

You are assuming they have the newest of everything there.
They didn’t even have continuous record video cameras at the gate.
They admitted they had antiquated computers which were being upgraded and reconciled into a newer system. Hence the 2.3 trillion.

Personally I feel that if you take away the eyewitness testimony then the only proof of a plane you have at the Pentagon is scraps found on the lawn and a hole in the wall. There's been no documentaries on the Pentagon like there was for the WTC. There's no recorded testimony from the firemen/rescue workers that day, no testimony from those who survived within the Pentagon...I feel like the issue was pushed aside. There's a WTC movie, a Flight 93 film but nothing at all about the Pentagon (or nothing that I'm not aware of).

No there actual pictures of burnt passengers in the rubble. Look around on the web. There is also a diagram that shows the locations of each body in the rubble.

Like I said they had years before the FOIA to crank out a few seconds of video that would shut up the conspiracy people. But they didn't.
Even after the FOIA came to light they could have made one for release. But they didn't.

And these are the super smart people that brought down WTC without a trace??

Originally posted by maxella1

He sais that he wants to know why Moussaoui is taking responsibilaty for 9/11.

Ummm, sounds to me like he would like to see him deny, be found guilty, and then, rather than face the death penalty, be given a life sentence so that he can spend the rest of his miserable life suffering.

I agree.

reply to post by Fluffaluffagous

Ummm, sounds to me like he would like to see him deny, be found guilty, and then, rather than face the death penalty, be given a life sentence so that he can spend the rest of his miserable life suffering. I agree.

www.dailymotion.com...

Yeah, he said that the guy should get life.

But his one question was why Moussaoui is taking responsibility for it.

My question would have been "Why did you do it?, Why did you want to kill so many innocent people ?"

Just saying...

reply to post by homervb

I could seriously run up on the lawn, and climb into one of those windows.

Like to see you try........

They are sealed blast proof windows designed to resist a truck bomb explosion

Gave a lot of trouble to the firefighters who attempted to breach them with axes or sledges to release heat and
smoke

Originally posted by homervb
I could seriously run up on the lawn, and climb into one of those windows. I know you believe it really is like that but honestly you're not giving our gov't enough credit.

Typical Truther brilliance....those windows cannot be opened. Won't change his claim though.

"Ok...I'd dash through the doors!"

The doors are securly locked with cypher locks and weigh over 1,000 lbs each..

"Ok...I'd sneak in through the side doors!"

Typical truther brilliance. Sandwich idiotic claims in between "Can't we all just get along? Can't we discuss this rationally?"

Originally posted by trebor451

Originally posted by homervb
I could seriously run up on the lawn, and climb into one of those windows. I know you believe it really is like that but honestly you're not giving our gov't enough credit.

Typical Truther brilliance....those windows cannot be opened. Won't change his claim though.

"Ok...I'd dash through the doors!"

The doors are securly locked with cypher locks and weigh over 1,000 lbs each..

"Ok...I'd sneak in through the side doors!"

Typical truther brilliance. Sandwich idiotic claims in between "Can't we all just get along? Can't we discuss this rationally?"

What a giant face palm to all of the O.S. troops. I was just saying how I could easily get on to the property without detection if there really is that 1 camera on the parking lot booth. Jesus christ you guys are so damn hostile and take # way out of context. This forum is getting ridiculous

reply to post by homervb

I was just saying how I could easily get on to the property without detection if there really is that 1 camera on the parking lot booth.

You realize, of course, that security at the Pentagon is not limited to CCTV's , right? That there are actual people actually watching the facility in real time, on the ground.

Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by homervb

 

I was just saying how I could easily get on to the property without detection if there really is that 1 camera on the parking lot booth.

You realize, of course, that security at the Pentagon is not limited to CCTV's , right? That there are actual people actually watching the facility in real time, on the ground.

I didn't know, I guess because they apparently have no testimony to offer.

Just get the hacking group anonymous to hack the servers where the video(s) are stored on.