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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by ddaniel
A quick Google search revealed the truth.
Voting is not a right but a privilege granted or withheld at the discretion of local and
state governments.
Currently convicted felons cannot vote.
Santorum wants to change that.
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by AwakeinNM
No it's not. It's not proof of anything at all.
Originally posted by AwakeinNM
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by AwakeinNM
No it's not. It's not proof of anything at all.
Sure it is.. unedited video. The poll worker was agreeing to give this guy Eric Holder's ballot. That proves that fraud is easily attainable.
Deny all you want, it doesn't change the video. But that's the liberal way, isn't it? Simply deny what you don't want known to be true.
I can't say that I would trust the results of a government audit.
The other reality is that every time anyone audits the system, there's no proof of widespread attempts at this sort of voter fraud.
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by AwakeinNM
The reality is if Eric Holder went in to vote he could easily challenge someone else using his identity. The other reality is that every time anyone audits the system, there's no proof of widespread attempts at this sort of voter fraud.
The final reality is that O'Keefe is a POLITICAL OPERATIVE.
He and the people that pay him know that a voter ID law would primarily, overwhelmingly, affect poor people, and minorities. A voter ID law would, in practice, act as yet more right-wing voter suppression.
Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Originally posted by narwahl
Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Originally posted by narwahl
How about no voting below a masters degree then?
Or Business owners only?
Both criteria should fit your founding fathers idea pretty well.
No. Lets remain honest.
The law is the law. Just look it up. I did. It's easy.
Yet if you are honest you would propably object to any restriction that would effect you.
The current restrictions sound like common sense to me.
I don't have a problem with them.
Why are you such an alarmist?
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by AwakeinNM
He and the people that pay him know that a voter ID law would primarily, overwhelmingly, affect poor people, and minorities. A voter ID law would, in practice, act as yet more right-wing voter suppression.
Originally posted by Surfrat
reply to post by OldCurmudgeon
Santorum is out of the primary
Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
reply to post by Eurisko2012
James O'Keefe is only effective - and only "got a job" because he's a useful tool from the same people who want to reduce the number of people voting.
O'Keefe has never been accepted in "legitimate" circles as anyone credible.
I really don't know what you want to "win" with corrupt shills. If Republicans get more power via people like O'Keefe -- they won with dirty tricks and lies. That means you get a MORE CORRUPT politician regardless of which party he is hanging out with.
O'Keefe and the hordes of other shills like him, are not talented, nor insightful -- they merely promote the CORRECT messages.
>> It's kind of the same thing as the Pepper Spraying Cop, or the Sheriff in Texas who likes to humiliate prisoners by putting them in Pink. These people aren't arrested, and in fact have good paying jobs -- because they make people angry -- and it sends a message that it's OK.
For instance, there is some Neo Nazi group now "patrolling streets in case their is some violence" after the Zimmerman case. Yeah -- that's a great idea. Highly armed skin heads walking the street are the best way to ease tensions -- right? What an inspiration the "stand your ground law" has been. I'm just waiting for the hubbub when black youths decide to patrol the streets looking for any old men who are afraid of kids in hoodies -- to preemptively protect themselves and shoot first -- since so many people are getting inspired to "secure the neighborhoods."
If more people were to "POWN" like O'Keefe, and to protect neighborhoods like Zimmerman, I think we'll get this anarchy and nonsense whipped into a frenzy!
>> In Australia, they fine you for NOT voting -- much like the Ancient Greeks would put a red died cloth around the necks of people who didn't show up to vote and shame them. You get a lot more moderation when the people who aren't upset and extreme show up.
I'm sorry, I need to remember not to get too complicated and nuanced here -- after all, I'm talking with people who are fans of Breitbart and O'Keefe -- such things as integrity, honesty and making sense aren't going to be appreciated.
Originally posted by AwakeinNM
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by AwakeinNM
The reality is if Eric Holder went in to vote he could easily challenge someone else using his identity. The other reality is that every time anyone audits the system, there's no proof of widespread attempts at this sort of voter fraud.
That's exactly right - there's no proof, BY DESIGN. The video proves that it can be done very easily. What if this guy had the names and addresses of 50 people in that registration book and voted Republican under all 50 people's names? Would you have a problem with that? Oh, I guess it's okay if democrats do it, and illegals do it.
You don't need an ID to register in most states, and you don't need an ID to vote. So tell me, genius, how does that prevent illegals from voting?? It DOESN'T, which is exactly what you and yours want - votes from wherever you can get them. Why? Because the whole lot of you are corrupt, and you think it's okay to be corrupt, as long as you don't get caught.
The final reality is that O'Keefe is a POLITICAL OPERATIVE.
He and the people that pay him know that a voter ID law would primarily, overwhelmingly, affect poor people, and minorities. A voter ID law would, in practice, act as yet more right-wing voter suppression.
See above. The only reason you THINK it would suppress votes is that it WOULD prevent illegals from voting, which in and of itself is ILLEGAL. You have a problem with preventing crime?? Or are you just fine with criminal activity as long as it benefits you...
Poor people have the ability to vote. There is public transportation, all sorts of public services they can use. Is that not enough for you liberals? Perhaps you should assign every poor person a limousine and driver so they aren't "disenfranchised" at the polls. Did you ever think maybe they just don't give a crap and simply don't vote?
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by Eurisko2012
Because everyone that dies is in the obits and IDs can't be faked.
Perfect system.