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Originally posted by AmmonSeth
Originally posted by flexy123
Originally posted by seagull
reply to post by boymonkey74
But... Someone had to be first...who's to say we aren't the first?
Care to elaborate or give ONE (one would be enough!) reason why you would even remotely think "we are first"? This is just the same, uhm, sorry, ignorance and arrogance but just in a milder form. We are NOT special in any way, likelihood even that other civilizations are much, much older than we are.
Care to give ONE reason why you would even remotely think we ARENT the first?
One reason your scientists put forward for the lonely earth theory was 'the great radio silence'.
They pondered that had intelligent life been evolving (to the same levels as, or greater than, humanity)
Then they decided it was logical to assume that those species would at some point invent and use communication mediums, such as Radio.
The fact that no transmissions of any kind have yet to be detected by humanity makes it lean more toward
the theory that there aren't highly intelligent species out there and that you are indeed the first, or only.
From a human point of view, there is more evidence (or lack of) to support a lonely earth theory
than there is so far to support a vastly populated universe theory.
Moving on however,
As has been pointed out before, The stars and planets are only recently in the stages where they contain
all that is need to create and support life. The minerals, elements, longevity, stability etc.
So it is perfectly acceptable to believe that the first 'intelligent' species are only just coming into play.
Why is it so hard to believe that you may very well be a lonely planet as of yet.
Afterall your planet did have a lot of extraordinary events happen to it to help make the conditions 'just right'
for life to thrive. Cosmic collision, Creation of a large stable moon, Millions of years long ice age allowing
bacteria to grow and release vast amounts of oxygen into the atmosphere, Extinction events wiping out
dominant predators etc.
Not every life containing planet out there would have such an amazing boost as Earth did.
Earth itself is not that special, but the events that happened to & on it are simply amazing.
Originally posted by swampcricket
Originally posted by AmmonSeth
Originally posted by flexy123
Originally posted by seagull
reply to post by boymonkey74
But... Someone had to be first...who's to say we aren't the first?
Care to elaborate or give ONE (one would be enough!) reason why you would even remotely think "we are first"? This is just the same, uhm, sorry, ignorance and arrogance but just in a milder form. We are NOT special in any way, likelihood even that other civilizations are much, much older than we are.
Care to give ONE reason why you would even remotely think we ARENT the first?
One reason your scientists put forward for the lonely earth theory was 'the great radio silence'.
They pondered that had intelligent life been evolving (to the same levels as, or greater than, humanity)
Then they decided it was logical to assume that those species would at some point invent and use communication mediums, such as Radio.
The fact that no transmissions of any kind have yet to be detected by humanity makes it lean more toward
the theory that there aren't highly intelligent species out there and that you are indeed the first, or only.
From a human point of view, there is more evidence (or lack of) to support a lonely earth theory
than there is so far to support a vastly populated universe theory.
Moving on however,
As has been pointed out before, The stars and planets are only recently in the stages where they contain
all that is need to create and support life. The minerals, elements, longevity, stability etc.
So it is perfectly acceptable to believe that the first 'intelligent' species are only just coming into play.
Why is it so hard to believe that you may very well be a lonely planet as of yet.
Afterall your planet did have a lot of extraordinary events happen to it to help make the conditions 'just right'
for life to thrive. Cosmic collision, Creation of a large stable moon, Millions of years long ice age allowing
bacteria to grow and release vast amounts of oxygen into the atmosphere, Extinction events wiping out
dominant predators etc.
Not every life containing planet out there would have such an amazing boost as Earth did.
Earth itself is not that special, but the events that happened to & on it are simply amazing.
As I have stated in many other posts THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE! Look at the vast amounts of planets that are out there it's in the billions and that's being conservative because we don't have the technology to find them all. If you think that earth is so special that in the whole universe we were the first/only planet that had events happen for life to form. And by being life that would be life as we know it here on earth. I know I can't prove it but can you disprove it?
Originally posted by FlyersFan
A woman I used to work with told me that she was absolutely sure that the only planet with life was this one .. 'because if there were life elsewhere the bible would have said so'. I told her to go back and read her bible .. about the nephilim .. but she just looked at me like a deer in the headlights ...
Originally posted by earthdude
Originally posted by swampcricket
Originally posted by AmmonSeth
Originally posted by flexy123
Originally posted by seagull
reply to post by boymonkey74
But... Someone had to be first...who's to say we aren't the first?
Care to elaborate or give ONE (one would be enough!) reason why you would even remotely think "we are first"? This is just the same, uhm, sorry, ignorance and arrogance but just in a milder form. We are NOT special in any way, likelihood even that other civilizations are much, much older than we are.
Care to give ONE reason why you would even remotely think we ARENT the first?
One reason your scientists put forward for the lonely earth theory was 'the great radio silence'.
They pondered that had intelligent life been evolving (to the same levels as, or greater than, humanity)
Then they decided it was logical to assume that those species would at some point invent and use communication mediums, such as Radio.
The fact that no transmissions of any kind have yet to be detected by humanity makes it lean more toward
the theory that there aren't highly intelligent species out there and that you are indeed the first, or only.
From a human point of view, there is more evidence (or lack of) to support a lonely earth theory
than there is so far to support a vastly populated universe theory.
Moving on however,
As has been pointed out before, The stars and planets are only recently in the stages where they contain
all that is need to create and support life. The minerals, elements, longevity, stability etc.
So it is perfectly acceptable to believe that the first 'intelligent' species are only just coming into play.
Why is it so hard to believe that you may very well be a lonely planet as of yet.
Afterall your planet did have a lot of extraordinary events happen to it to help make the conditions 'just right'
for life to thrive. Cosmic collision, Creation of a large stable moon, Millions of years long ice age allowing
bacteria to grow and release vast amounts of oxygen into the atmosphere, Extinction events wiping out
dominant predators etc.
Not every life containing planet out there would have such an amazing boost as Earth did.
Earth itself is not that special, but the events that happened to & on it are simply amazing.
As I have stated in many other posts THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE! Look at the vast amounts of planets that are out there it's in the billions and that's being conservative because we don't have the technology to find them all. If you think that earth is so special that in the whole universe we were the first/only planet that had events happen for life to form. And by being life that would be life as we know it here on earth. I know I can't prove it but can you disprove it?
Throw infinity in the numbers and all they do is lie. If the question is "What are the chances of life in the KNOWN universe, well i give the odds at 1in a million.
Originally posted by swampcricket
As I have stated in many other posts THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE!
Just one would be enough, if from a real and trustworthy source.
Originally posted by LightsideAssassin
I could give you link after link showing how we've been visited ...
Originally posted by ArMaP
Just one would be enough, if from a real and trustworthy source.
Originally posted by LightsideAssassin
I could give you link after link showing how we've been visited ...