"End of World" Imminent: This WARNING is very real.

Gotta love this garbage, or rather hate it.

The recipe for fear mongering:

2 cup - Mayan Calender
1 cup - Edgar Cayce
2 Tablespoon - Nostradomus
1 Tablespoon - Pole shift
a pinch of Christian/Jewish prophecy
a dash of global warming

Post it on ATS and bake for 2 hrs.

Tastes like crap by the way....

"It's too bad that we're getting e-mails from fourth-graders who are saying that they're too young to die," Martin said. "We had a mother of two young children who was afraid she wouldn't live to see them grow up."

Ann Martin - Cornell University
Source

And we wonder why our children are shooting each other in school.

The sad part is that everyone IGNORES THE FACTS;

Bernal notes there are other inscriptions at Mayan sites for dates far beyond 2012 -- including one that roughly translates into the year 4772.

~Archaeologist Guillermo Bernal of Mexico's National Autonomous University
Source


Gullible fools.

What baffles the mind is how (including myself) many posters are attracted to both this and OP's thread on another blogsite despite; 1) the vile retorts by OP to any questions or criticisms and 2) no meaningful scientifically provable facts to substantiate his somewhat outlandish claims. At first I was mesmerized by his crafty dialog, but soon became disenchanted by his overwhelming Ego and claims or fabrications (taken from several hollywood movies). OP doesn't care about informing people folks, he is only interested in spewing hate and spinning webs of deciet to generate unfounded fear. He is obviously very intelligent and so weaves just enough plausibility to catch unsuspecting posters.

My take on this,

Peace,

DP

I think our fate will be determined on November 6, 2012 when we find out if who the US President is. If it's Barrak Obama, then we are screwed, and if it's someone else well then we are good to go and we move on with our lives. I know this is a bit off topic, but I had to bring some reality to this thread.

It just like back in 1998 when all the asteroid movies came out like Armageddon and Deep Impact to name a couple. Everyone was up in arms about the Earth getting hit by an asteroid. Sorry to break the news, but WE ALL STILL HERE!! On December 22, 2012, we will ALL STILL BE HERE and rushing to get our last minute Christmas shopping done.

Now with that said, it's an awesome story, but it's the same story we have been listing to for too many years. I'm read for a new book.

Beyond and without a doubt, these constant end of days type predictions, are getting very tedious! How many times have we had folks trying to convince us that our world is over. Although this is a natural part of the human condition, ( foolish predictions of impending doom) and has been with us since the very beginning, there is no doubt that with the advent of the internet the numbers of catastrophe merchants had increased exponentially!

I normally avoid and will continue to avoid these idiotic ideas, even if they are a mishmash of well researched and relevant facts from a myriad of sources. Agreed, sometimes the facts in themselves, taken in isolation, can be educational. The reality is that, we as a species have only been here for an eye blink. We are very limited, both in terms of our brain power and technology to be able to make predictions with any degree of certainty whatsoever. ( TRUST ME THIS IS TRUE!) sic. We have a long way to go as a species before we can expect to know what might be coming down the line.

It's simply a matter of time over luck. If we are lucky enough to have enough time to advance well into the second half of the next century, maybe, just maybe, will be in a position to predict and act. I have no doubt that we will probably need outside assistance and if we pass the test of respecting and maintaining our biosphere into the next century, then maybe, just maybe, we will be picked up by the right outside agents, and hopefully they will have deemed us worthwhile enough to be taken under their wing.

The further away from events in the past that we go, the more we think we know about them. The further ahead we try to predict the more we rely on our imaginations.

Please think before you predict with such certainty the course of Mother Earth. Especially when you can't even predict the local atmospheric conditions for more than a few days ahead, with any real certainty!

Rock on otherwise :-)

Originally posted by DoomPoon
What baffles the mind is how (including myself) many posters are attracted to both this and OP's thread on another blogsite despite; 1) the vile retorts by OP to any questions or criticisms and 2) no meaningful scientifically provable facts to substantiate his somewhat outlandish claims. At first I was mesmerized by his crafty dialog, but soon became disenchanted by his overwhelming Ego and claims or fabrications (taken from several hollywood movies). OP doesn't care about informing people folks, he is only interested in spewing hate and spinning webs of deciet to generate unfounded fear. He is obviously very intelligent and so weaves just enough plausibility to catch unsuspecting posters.

My take on this,

Peace,

DP

Well....get this... we all have different perceptions. Something you find without credibility I may find enough evidence to make it credible.

For one... the OP didn't present what he thinks in a credible way. Presentation is everything. His (or her) personality clashed with others and we don't know him/her. It could be the OP is young and scared with what he/she found. I have no idea but the message he/she presents is somewhat true (imo)....not all of it.... but some. For all I know though..it could all come to life and manifest but in my opinion from what I have researched this time we are embarking on or have been embarking in is not something to fear. Nothing for that matter should be feared IF you know what and or who you are in your true essence. This is a learning and evolutionary process....

I can list a number of sites and articles from credible sites that do indeed state the Earth is in a matter of change right now even more so that it "normally" is....and not just the Earth but the entire Solar System. Now... if you don't want to find evidence then you won't look hard. The deeper I dig the more I find. But what I am noticing is some people's research is leading them to the "Hot spot" but they stop researching and run with the information they have collected thus far and this is what I think the OP did. He ran with it without not only understanding it more but being able to present the information in a fashion where people may be able to accept it without fear.

If you state something you believe to be fact.... that doesn't mean it should be labeled "fear mongering". The fact is ...we are all going to die. Is that fear mongering? Not to me.... it is being real in regards to the reality we perceive.

I'm in no way trying to offend you. That is not my intent....I just wanted to show you another way to look at this.

Originally posted by MamaJ

Originally posted by DoomPoon
What baffles the mind is how (including myself) many posters are attracted to both this and OP's thread on another blogsite despite; 1) the vile retorts by OP to any questions or criticisms and 2) no meaningful scientifically provable facts to substantiate his somewhat outlandish claims. At first I was mesmerized by his crafty dialog, but soon became disenchanted by his overwhelming Ego and claims or fabrications (taken from several hollywood movies). OP doesn't care about informing people folks, he is only interested in spewing hate and spinning webs of deciet to generate unfounded fear. He is obviously very intelligent and so weaves just enough plausibility to catch unsuspecting posters.

My take on this,

Peace,

DP

Well....get this... we all have different perceptions. Something you find without credibility I may find enough evidence to make it credible.

For one... the OP didn't present what he thinks in a credible way. Presentation is everything. His (or her) personality clashed with others and we don't know him/her. It could be the OP is young and scared with what he/she found. I have no idea but the message he/she presents is somewhat true (imo)....not all of it.... but some. For all I know though..it could all come to life and manifest but in my opinion from what I have researched this time we are embarking on or have been embarking in is not something to fear. Nothing for that matter should be feared IF you know what and or who you are in your true essence. This is a learning and evolutionary process....

I can list a number of sites and articles from credible sites that do indeed state the Earth is in a matter of change right now even more so that it "normally" is....and not just the Earth but the entire Solar System. Now... if you don't want to find evidence then you won't look hard. The deeper I dig the more I find. But what I am noticing is some people's research is leading them to the "Hot spot" but they stop researching and run with the information they have collected thus far and this is what I think the OP did. He ran with it without not only understanding it more but being able to present the information in a fashion where people may be able to accept it without fear.

If you state something you believe to be fact.... that doesn't mean it should be labeled "fear mongering". The fact is ...we are all going to die. Is that fear mongering? Not to me.... it is being real in regards to the reality we perceive.

I'm in no way trying to offend you. That is not my intent....I just wanted to show you another way to look at this.

No offense taken. Since I'm new to this site you don't know my general demeanor. I keep an open mind to ALL ideas, but with healthy skepticism. The reason I posted this is a result of what I read elsewhere (by OP). And yes, we don't know anything for certain about OP (age/sex etc). I've even mentioned this myself. I did say enough 'plausible' facts, so I certainly agree much of what he repeats has basis in truth. However, when considering the Total nature of OP's posts, my perception is that his alleged benevolence comes off as a ruse for a hostile personality. Many of OP's uncensored posts are so base, even a drunken sailor would be offended. For someone who professes that our planet needs a cleansing, OP should take a close hard look on the mirror and tell us what is seen there.

Thanks for your comment MamaJ,

Peace,

DP

Like I posted over at GLP, I think the topic (of magnetic pole disappearance (shift) and of interstellar material), is generally a good topic, from common science aside from what may appear to be so much egoistic drama from OP. He tends to inflame the shill tactic of blind emotionalism, a desire to feed fire with fire. However his enormous flock of shills is very interesting in itself. Certain psychological conditions could explain his behavior in so many words... but that still does not mean that OP is not intelligent, and that the most important part of his core idea might be valid and important, and that new forces in government administrations are in the process of putting censorship forces on scientists in general, like never before.

Issues he raises about the Mayan calender and moral interpretations and predictions I neither believe or disbelieve, but I just take note... observe and remember. Consider it chaff if you will. I don't know why he is throwing out so much chaff when the core issues are clearer.

Is he as he claims?

Or is he an American Indian either genetically or in spirit? In that case we should simply listen to his visions and stories, thank him, leave, and ponder later how literally to consider the words.

Or is he a CIA plant designed to swerve attention from a real issue?

Or is he an intelligent but not well known person who's lower ego wishes to fill itself, so he picks of something good and valid at it's core, runs with it like he knows what he is doing (but it looks more like learning along the way to me sometimes) , and then makes some 98% accurate predictions for added drama, before the ego gets ready to "cash in its chips" from its little attention energy-sucking game?

Or does it matter?

This thread should not be used to discredit some important valid issues because of the personal issues of OP, imo. Thanks for the YT video btw. Got to wade through a lot of "made for public" type slowness but the issues were right on with this thread. www.youtube.com...

In the words of George W. Bush:

"Bring it on."

See, I really don't have any where else to go and not much to do afterward.

If it truely is to be the "end of the world" all that is left is a little gloom and doom.

Originally posted by Cohort

Actually, my theory is that the Mayan's had a couple of E-2s or E-3s working on the damn thing, and they said, "Well, it's out to 2012. I'll be long dead by that time. Let's call it quits and get some brewskis at the club."

Originally posted by hdutton
In the words of George W. Bush:

"Bring it on."

See, I really don't have any where else to go and not much to do afterward.

If it truly is to be the "end of the world" all that is left is a little gloom and doom.

Nothing ever really ends, or everything is always ending. There is only change.

According to history a loss of magnetosphere would probably be survivable to humans, but not necessary to the cultures, and definitely architecture would change.

Survival would favor thick roofs, more time indoors, and a more nocturnal lifestyle, perhaps for many generations from the time of onset.

Whether any of it is "good" or "bad" will vary, depending on the experience of the individual, as always.

Cavemen and Techno-Ants, that's all.



However, if there are some "old smoker" burned out nuclear reactors throwing radioactive hot particles into the air in the future, that could be a more sinister threat...

The Planet isn't dying. The Planet Earth will always be here. There have been times when Earth has been much colder and much hotter than it is now.

We may be going through changes in climate, but Earth is just fighting back. Seven BILLION humans?

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You forgot "Illuminati 'to taste" " and a pinch of Freemasonry

Thanks for the info brother/sister; i think we all feel something collectively is about to happen. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best!

yeah I feel this could be true. where I live there was hardly a winter, and there's been temperature extremes everywhere. Also, it's quite clear that the government is up to something since the media is whoring out the whole doomsday idea along with all the military drills and increasingly authoritarian laws that are being passed. maybe we are at a breaking point?

If it happens, it happens. There is no way to know. We shall see.

They got rid of the OP right after he mentioned getting away from the east coast. He was just starting to get very specific.
I am not prone to easy manipulation when it comes to these doom threads, but there is something different about this one.
For one thing , considering where the post was placed, there was large amount of negative feedback, even though the basic ascertain of the post seemed to have merit.
After the OP was banned, the criticism continued, as if to destroy any credibility he might have had was very important to someone, who I am not sure.
My experience in life has taught me that this is because there is something to hide.

Who here can honestly deny he presented a convincing argument, proving that we are currently experiencing a mass extinction event and it is directly related to space weather and conditions on the planet changing rapidly including changes in the Earths protective magnetic field?

It seems to me as a former lurker here that this OP was given very special treatment.

As I recall , he specified several things that would happen all within a very narrow time frame. We also know the solar cycle will peak at almost the same time these other events were
supposed to happen.
It is a fact that on the shortest day of the year the Earth makes almost it closest approach to the Sun, that the solar system is in fact passing through a cloud of dense plasma,and that on that same day of December 21 ,the day the Mayan calender ends, the Sun, galactic center and Earth will align.

Having read much literature on the subject, most astronomers agree that we are not sure precisely where we are in relation to the ecliptic of the the galaxy, but that it would undoubtedly have an increase in plasma and matter as well as energy concentrated along it's precise location.

You must remember that a plane is a precise location, and since we cannot see through the dense stars of the milky way to the galactic center, we only know within a large margin of error where we are in relation to the galactic ecliptic plane.

I do know that it was common knowledge until not long ago that the end of the long count of the Mayan calender was supposed to mark and end of this world and the beginning of another. age where a all of the ways and leaders of this world would be replaced , and I also know that this cleansing of the Earth he mentioned is common theme among almost all native cultures.

Some of the critics stated outright falsehoods, like for instance that the Mayans did not foresee the coming of Cortez and his conquistadors, and that the conquistadors defeated the advanced Mayan culture easily. The truth is very different. Mayan culture had already collapsed by the time the Spanish had arrived, and they did in fact foresee the coming of the white invaders.

I think the OP did something that made him different than the average doomsayer, and there were certain people who were very much more abusive than he was in defense of himself who are still active on this thread. and continue to spew their bile. I couldn't help but notice that he treated each poster according to how they treated him..

Anyway, to me it seems that anyone who does not see this planet is rapidly changing and that the changes are leading up to what seems to be a climax in the very near future is either very ignorant, too young to have noticed the changes, extremely stupid, or lying.

I saw statistics posted here that were blatantly false, claiming world temperatures on average were lower than normal, and yet nearly everyone from around the world werel posting reports that they had experienced no winter this year..
I Personally think what got the OP attacked so viciously and with an obvious organized front is that he was attacking mainstream science which is exactly what happened to so many groundbreaking scientists before him who went against the status quo.

Science has indeed become like a religion, because certain people defend their scientific beliefs , especially theoretical physics, with religious fervor very similar to blind faith, even in the presence of extremely convincing evidence that they are wrong.

I don't think anyone is right about everything, but I honestly think what got him banned was proving that matter could exceed the speed of light, because this is without a doubt an extremely significant observation, that if true means most of the famous physicists of the 20th century received their awards , recognition, and accolades based on either falsified or misinterpreted data.
. They didn't want to allow him to speak, and no one here can deny he was right when he predicted he would be silenced, whether he is still dead , in jail, or simply banned and the Mods are not revealing that fact. He obviously got some people in positions of power very nervous. Three things we cannot deny is that the governments of the world are building massive underground bunkers and behaving as if there is no tomorrow, and so are the Elite.
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He was very arrogant, egotistical, insulting, and belittling to other members in the thread. He was this way at the start of the thread.

You may not remember it that way, but I urge you to go back and look. Many posted, asking for proof or further details, and not in a insulting way.
Yet the OP, would quickly respond with statements that the poster's IQ was well below the OP's and that they would not understand. That they were "disinfo agents". That they were paid trolls.

The OP started that, well before being attacked by an increasing number of people. If you have been a lurker on ATS, then you should know that most members here react badly to that, and yes, we tend to bite back.

The OP should have presented his theories and ideas, his warnings and detailed information in a better way. Instead, he presented it in one of the most sensational ways possible, even claiming that TPTB would have him in a body bag for posting the information (information BTW which has already been posted and discussed on these boards).

If instead, the OP had presented his thread in the 2012 forum, laid out why they think what is going on, and how it all fits together, and what people should do, and then calmly discussed it with others (and just ignored any attacks, and that means not posting "I'm ignoring you from now on" (how childish is that?)), there may have been less attacks, and more serious discussion going on.

Was it all the OP's fault? No, all thought again, the OP went about posting this thread in the wrong way, and handling things the wrong way. However the mods here should have stepped in sooner most likely.

But then Springer told us that ATS staff has had their hands full the past week because of Zimmerman incident, and the racial hatred going on with many, many posts.

The OP's profile doesn't show them banned. You might try sending a U2U to them and see if you get a response. Ask them to come back and try to continue the discussion, and see what happens.

IMHO, the OP was merely making a sensational thread to get a rise out of people, and to get the thread listed in the Hot Topics. There are many people out there that love to do this. In this, the OP succeeded.

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The OP does not show signs of being banned and shows last visit of April 3,2012. What is your source indicating he's banned?

You mention the matter faster than light issue. What did you see that convinces you he's correct?

So does anyone know if the OP was banned? I have known him for years through the internet and found his prognostications , predictions and opinions to be exceedingly accurate and honest, and I am concerned because of things he said against people in positions of power and I cannot reach him by telephone. he lives a hundred miles or so to the southeast of me, maybe I'll go down and see,. Remove this post if you want claiming it is off topic, but I think this is more or less a trial on the OP's credibility and that if the negative off topic comments are allowed to remain, at least a few in defense of him should as well

I know amongst other things he proved that 911 was a planned event that had nothing to do with Ossama Bin Laden and involved a global conspiracy to take down the United States, engage us in endless imperialist wars as the attack dogs of the world bankers and in specific Israel, and crack down on freedom in America because of the rising tide of antisemitism.
Anyone who can't see this is true by now is blind to the truth.

I also know he stated on the day it happened on GLP under the same screen name he used here that 911 was a false flag attack and the building collapses were the result of a carefully executed controlled demolition that was set up by mainly Zionists that have infiltrated our government and have our leaders blackmailed, bribed and scared they will be killed if they resist the agenda.

What else could explain the entire congress passing the Patriot act without a single minute of debate and no possible way they could have even read a tiny portion of it's thousands of pages it before voting it unanimously pinto law? Does anyone here really believe out entire congress worships the ground Netayahoo walks on, or that maybe their standing ovation of him after addressing congress had more to so with preserving tier political careers?.. If we can criticize a particular group that gives that group carte blache to do whatever they wish.

It is a sad commentary on our society as a whole that the one thing no one on this thread seems to have considered or questioned is "what happened to the OP"? What if he was right and he was killed because he was trying to help the common people? I think the OP was right, it comes to a head at one particular unmentionable point that is politically inc correct to mention and even illegal to do in many European countries, that the Jewish people are running our country and the world quite literally into the ground., and it most likely has something to do with the OP's predictions..