Sheriff Joe Arpaio Gives U.S. Selective Service Director Larry Romo 30 Days

Originally posted by randomname
if a pdf is not good enough for something as simple as a driver's license. how can that possibly be good enough to qualify your status as president.

What silly thing makes you think a pdf was used to qualify Obama's status?

reply to post by Seede


Mr. Seede,

Thanks for the well thought response.

But I still wonder why do we have this?

Most of the other things were hidden. Why release this?

The fake BC was only released after great public pressure was applied.

So what I am thinking is, most of the public now is unaware of the significance of this document, why would they just not bother. Why release a fake. Where did it come from?

Was this a FOI doc that someone requested.

Not trying to make trouble, just not sure what the answers are to this.

73,
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Originally posted by Bob350
Some here have forgotten that Joe Arpaio is responding to citizens requests to look into this matter. If you would remember during the 2008 campaign Bush vs Kerry that the MSM demanded every record from George Bush's past that you could think of. You might recall the MSM and Kerry demanding the 1379's, drill attendance records, to try and show Bush did not show up for drill weekends. Remember Dan Rather's report!! That is how far down in the weeds these people got with George Bush. I also recall John Kerry berating George Bush about his college grades and went so far to say the George Bush was dumb. However, when Bush finally did release his records his grades were actually better than Kerry's.
Now if you look at BHO you will notice a dearth of records of any kind. College transcripts, nada. Selective service card or records, suspected forgery. Birth Certificate sure there is one. But it has so many obvious questions that it is also a probable forgery. Where did he get the money to attend Columbia? Did he have scholarships? Well no one knows because all records are sealed. Why? This info was demanded of George Bush why not BHO?
The list goes on and on but you get the idea.
Sheriff Joe Arpaio is just doing his job for the people in his district. I know this is hard for some to understand, because here you obviously have an elected official doing his job.

edit on 31-3-2012 by Bob350 because: OK

Well said Bob and a star for you, and to your point... in their own way, each of the candidates are first attacked by their own party in the primary and then stripped naked prior to the final whistle... and in my opinion, every candidate should be required to throw his/her papers on the table prior to running, and it would be the only "truth in politics".

This guy is always giving 30 day notices. I thought he was controlled opposition the last time he said it when he held a press conference to say "We have the most damning info about Obammy ever, we'll hold another PC in 30 days to tell you all about it."

Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by randomname
if a pdf is not good enough for something as simple as a driver's license. how can that possibly be good enough to qualify your status as president.

What silly thing makes you think a pdf was used to qualify Obama's status?

Why would you put so much time and energy into defending any member of the established political powers??? I don't care which party they come from, they're all corrupt, evil to the core and interested in using their office to fulfill their various perversions / addictions, engage in the exercise of power and make a profit.

No offense but you really need to wake up and step outside the box they've placed you in. Every "elected" person in the Federal government and most of the state governments are there to serve the whims of their financial elite string holders. There is no one you can elect from within the status quo from either party who will change anything. They want to take this country and every other one in a direction you DO NOT want to go in. Hopefully you'll realize that before it's too late.

Obama, like most of the elected Presidents in the past 40 years - has spent millions of dollars to try and keep anyone from looking into his real life. He is an illusion put together by Madison Ave and the popular media, period. Anything that offers a glimpse behind that curtain, no matter whose curtain it is or which party they come from is a good thing. Free your mind and your ass will follow.

Originally posted by ecoparity
Obama, like most of the elected Presidents in the past 40 years - has spent millions of dollars to try and keep anyone from looking into his real life.

Why do you keep repeating that birther lie? how about showing exactly where and how Obama spent millions to keep his private documents private.

I tried to get access to your birth certificate and other records, and I could not. So please tell us why you spent millions covering them up, and what are you hiding?

Originally posted by spoor
What "experts"?

Oh, so you don't know what's going on? Geez, it has been presented during this thread 'spoor'. I'm afraid to inform you that you're wasting time here for nothing, *Sigh*
Take a look at Rob Dew here
According to a number of electronic image experts, one of the most glaring details demonstrating Obama's alleged "Hawaiian birth certificate" as fraud is the presence of digital artifacts. But, i need to know if you are able to follow what's going on, and how good your level of English language is, before i can tell you more about how these experts determined Obama's alleged "Hawaiian birth certificate" as fraud. First of all, you need prove to yourself if you really are interested to know what's going on here.
Rob Dew demonstrated in that TV program how he determined Obama's alleged "Hawaiian birth certificate" as fraud, which you can watch and listen for yourself, just take all the time you need, and watch and listen to that TV program, watch and listen as many times as it takes, until you understand, i hope you will succeed to understand in the end.

Other experts who also determined Obama's purported "Hawaiian birth certificate" as fraud:

Jerome Corsi: Obama alleged "Hawaiian Birth Certificate" 100% Forged
Document Expert Doug Vogt: Obama's Forged "Hawaiian Birth Certificate"

Remember how Orly's "experts" were not actually experts....

You say that Orly's "experts" were not actually experts, so when you say that then are you able to show who these people are? Let me help you a little bit poor poor 'spoor', take a look at Page 1 www.abovetopsecret.com... obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com...

(Phoenix, AZ) Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has sent a letter to the Director of the U.S. Selective Service System headquarters in Arlington, Virginia. The Sheriff is asking the agency to conduct an investigation of Barack Obama’s Selective Service registration form from 1980 after the preliminary findings of the Sheriff’s six-monthlong investigation determined that it may be a forgery.

The letter also asked Director Lawrence Romo to produce the original form so forensic document examiners can analyze the document to determine if it is authentic. (letter attached)

Because of inconsistencies on the form itself including an unusually incomplete date stamp, Sheriff’s investigators suspect the form, which was allegedly filled out in Honolulu, Hawaii in 1980, may be a forgery.

Sheriff’s investigators were able to replicate the alleged forgery by obtaining a circa 1980 pica stamp and a circa “2008” date plug. Investigators were able to clearly demonstrate the “80” (which should have actually read 1980) in Obama’s Selective Service Registration form resulted from cutting out the “08” from an authentic “2008” date plug, and inverting the “08” to read “80” when the cut plug was loaded into the year slot on the 1980 pica stamp. (see form attached)

Sheriff Arpaio is asking Director Romo to respond to him within 30 days on whether or not his national office will provide the Sheriff with the original document and if his office will move forward with an investigation of its own. Lawrence Romo, who was appointed as Director to the U.S. Selective Service System in 2009 by President Obama, reports directly to the President.

www.abovetopsecret.com... You can check out this "Obama's Forged Selective Service Card Forgery Explained" thread as well. www.abovetopsecret.com... the fake Selective Service Registration www.westernjournalism.com...

Sheriff Joe Arpaio Exposes Forgery Of Obama’s Selective Service Registration

Having just attended Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s “Cold Case Posse” news conference in Phoenix, Arizona, we candidly admit we have never seen a greater example of raw media bias in our 30 years of watching the fourth estate.

Arpaio organized the cold case five-member law enforcement posse last year to investigate allegations that the Obama birth certificate released to the public by the White House on April 27, 2011 might be a Forgery, and he said he constituted the posse after a request by 250 Maricopa County citizens.

In less than an hour, Arpaio’s team laid out a compelling case that individuals working under the President of the United States have engaged in criminal forgery. And most interestingly, the case isn’t just about Obama’s birth certificate.

The case against Obama was made with simple, clear videos describing the techniques the forgers used to falsifying important documents released by Obama’s team. It was obvious that the law enforcement professionals doing the actual investigation are real pros. If you want the details of the techniques used you can watch the videos on Westernjournalism.com.

The Arpaio team devastated the legitimacy of Obama’s purported birth certificate from Hawaii. The investigation by document forensic experts systematically showed how the document could NOT be real and is part of a criminal conspiracy to commit fraud.

But we found the most interesting information presented to have nothing to do with the Obama nativity story. Instead it had to do with the selective service records. Forensic document analysis proved this document was also a Forgery. Intensive documentation proving that Postal indicia on the form was forged was particularly damaging, as this type of postal fraud is a federal felony.

In the days ahead, it will be interesting to see if the mainstream media provides any coverage of the event’s allegations. Sitting in the room we were overwhelmed by the professionalism of these sworn officers of the law. They clearly used the best experts in their investigation. Finally a legitimate law enforcement official has looked at the evidence and found, as Arpaio said, “probable cause that a felony has been committed.”

Going forward, Arpaio said that he would continue to investigate. Allusions were made to the existence of over 200 sworn depositions by witnesses in the case, including a witness that, when he met Barack Obama was introduced to him, as a foreign exchange student.

If you don’t believe us, go and watch the video of the news conference yourself; it is posted online.

Obama’s team responded with ridicule, NOT answers. His campaign tweeted links to an old episode of the X-Files TV show. But ridicule in the face of legitimate questions only works so long.

Citizens are still daring to ask questions about Obama. And by doing it you face certain ridicule, name calling and being treated as children. Even when you may be asking legitimate questions, which have been routinely asked of presidential candidates in the past or have been asked of Republican candidates this year, you are censured.

As WND.com has reported, “Poll after poll in recent months has indicated that Americans have a high level of concern over Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president; with one poll showing fully half of the nation wants Congress to investigate the question.” But to date, nothing has been done.

and no real expert would declare a document that they have never even examined to be a forgery..

No expert would of course EVER "come forward" and explain / demonstrate / determine any "document" unless there ain't no "document", 'spoor' , but you can see this pathetic "Hawaiian BC" HOAX posted online by the United States Secret Shadow Government shown on for example the TV program below for yourself

Originally posted by Anunaki10
According to a number of electronic image experts,

Obama's long form birth certificate is NOT a electronic image.... so those "experts" are useless!

You say that Orly's "experts" were not actually experts,

The court said that....

www.obamaconspiracy.org...

The Sheriff is asking the agency to conduct an investigation of Barack Obama’s Selective Service registration form from 1980 after the preliminary findings of the Sheriff’s six-monthlong investigation determined that it may be a forgery.

You have yet to show that is Obama's ss form - just how was it obtained?

No expert would of course EVER "come forward" and explain / demonstrate / determine any "document"

Especially when they have never even held Obama's long form BC....

Birtheers are so silly they do not even realise the image posted on the Whitehouse website is not Obama's actual long form birth certificate!

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Shouldn't "Sheriff Joe" be more concerned about the people he's supposed to represent?

I have never seen such an abuse of law enforcement powers.

This is something that an U.S Attorney or Federal Marshal should handle, not a two-bit ignorant sheriff.

reply to post by Anunaki10


As long as Alex Jones is yapping about it, it's not true!

You can't "prove" anything with a youtube video and a bunch of crummy "experts", mainly people who've forgotten just who signs their checks (Arapaio, Taitz, etc).

Originally posted by Anunaki10
According to a number of electronic image experts,

What do electronic experts have to do with Hawaiian birth certificates? You mean somebody who calls themselves an electronic expert can authentic your own birth certificate? Or is this left up to officials in your state?

Rob Dew

Rob Dew doesn't work for the Hawaiian health department. He does not have experience with Hawaiian birth certificates. Hawaii states that both Obama's long form and short form birth certificates are authentic. What Mr Dew claims is purely of his opinion, it matters very little, legally.

Sheriff’s investigators were able to replicate the alleged forgery by obtaining a circa 1980 pica stamp and a circa “2008” date plug.

This is actually explained rather well through this link:
www.obamaconspiracy.org...

Sheriff Arpaio is asking Director Romo to respond to him within 30 days

Arpaio already got a response:

This Agency has no evidence that President Obama’s 1980 registration is not authentic. However, if you have any credible evidence to the contrary and believe that a Federal crime has been committed, we suggest that it be turned over immediately to the Federal Bureau of Investigation to pursue.

www.obamaconspiracy.org...

If Arpaio is going to go around making demands well beyond his authority, he's gotta be prepared to put out muscle behind those demands. His conference back on the 1st of March is already well forgotten, it didn't pan out to his liking, if this is all he has, he is either acting delusional or he's just playing to he's constituency.

reply to post by Southern Guardian


I'm glad that there are others who question this birther nonsense instead of blindly supporting it because of their hatred for Obama.

Deny ignorance!

Originally posted by The Sword
As long as Alex Jones is yapping about it, it's not true!

Go back and watch and listen to Rob Dew who is participating in that TV program again, before you open your mouth...

reply to post by Anunaki10


No thanks.

How about you grow up and stop pointing at so-called experts for "proof"?

Arapaio and his minions have one agenda and only ONE agenda: legitimize their hatred of Obama for societal gain.

Originally posted by The Sword
I'm glad that there are others who question this birther nonsense instead of blindly supporting it because of their hatred for Obama.

This is not about hating Obama, most people here are just interested to follow what the heck is going with these controversial obvious FAKE "Hawaiian BC" and Selective Service Registration. Obama is a great representative for the United States, and it is my wish he shall be re-elected as President, he is a much better representative than for example George W. Bush Jr., i definitely prefer Obama as President. Some questions haunts me, >Did Obama discover too late that he was actually born in Kenya, did he first discover that after he became President? Or did Obama discover too late that the rules says that you have to be born on American soil to become President of the United States? Are someone really trying to set him up?WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON HERE??? Are all these or most of these alleged Obama records really missing? And is Obama really supposed to release all these records?

Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by Snoopy1978
So when the thirty days are up, then what?

Orly will have yet another meltdown, birthers will produce another fake birth certificate claiming Obama was born in Kenya, Joe will refuse to accept another of poor Orly's "subpoena's" and then he will stamp his little feet demanding "Respect My Authoritah! "

Lmao so true, but if that's the case, does it mean this whole birther issue is a distraction?! Who could be so stupid to be distracted from the illegal wars, free running wallstreet criminals, massive unemployment and unaffordable healthcare? Who could be such an imbecile to be distracted by such a non-issue as this birther deal?!

Hmmm...

Originally posted by The Sword
No thanks.

Then you're wasting your time here for nothing, unfortunately for you...

How about you grow up and stop pointing at so-called experts for "proof"?

You're the one who are supposed to grow up and follow what's going on here, now go back and read and watch the presented stuff about how the experts determined these FAKE "Hawaiian BC" and Selective Service Registration, or back off, if you have nothing to offer than wasting your time with your naive bs, then you're better off stop saying anything.

Beside, you better stop being paranoid, Obama is going to be re-elected as President no matter what happens, so don't worry, and i'm not saying that just because David Icke says >>Presidents are not elected by ballot, they are selected by blood

Originally posted by Southern Guardian
What do electronic experts have to do with Hawaiian birth certificates?

Go back and watch and listen to that TV program were Rob Dew determine the "Hawaiian BC" HOAX obviously posted online by the United States Secret Shadow Government

Rob Dew doesn't work for the Hawaiian health department.

So? It doesn't necessarily make him a less reliable expert just because you're saying that kind of crap.

He does not have experience with Hawaiian birth certificates.

Obviously he now have experience, doesn't he? Again, go back and watch and listen to that TV program were Rob Dew determined that "Hawaiian BC" HOAX as i suggested you to do, or back off.

Hawaii states that both Obama's long form and short form birth certificates are authentic.

Nope, you're lying again 'Southern Guardian' freak :

Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie can't find Obama's BC in Hawaii

Hawaii official now swears: No Obama birth certificate in Hawaii

Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapi’olani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.

What Mr Dew claims is purely of his opinion, it matters very little, legally.

Dew is giving his professional expert explanation and presentation, and he is NOT the only expert who analyzed that "Hawaiian BC" HOAX.

Jerome Corsi: Obama alleged "Hawaiian Birth Certificate" 100% Forged

Document Expert Doug Vogt: Obama's Forged "Hawaiian Birth Certificate"

Another thing, go back and check out "reply posted on 1-4-2012 @ 05:29 AM by Anunaki10" , two independant Kenyan BC have been released, you better read about it and watch the interview with Lucas D. Smith were he obviously show one these two Kenyan BC

Originally posted by onthedownlow
It amazes me that so many of the truth seekers at ATS could care less about the truth when it doesn't fit their agenda! Let us hope that we can find the truth, instead of fabricate conspiracies as a means of denial, in order to..., why do we want the truth? I, for one, believe that a massive fraud in the executive branch would be quite damning for the country I love, but I believe the truth is more important!

I hear you! Up and down on this birth certificate debacle for how long now? One thing that would lay it all to rest is denied us, curiously, why doesn't he just produce the damnable thing, and get it over with?

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Shouldn't you be over at PrisonPlanet or BirtherCentral or wherever you trolls hang out?

You say that you want Obama to be re-elected and at the same time, you participate in the birther madness.

Which is it?