If there was a pill to kill all your sexual desire, would you take it?

How is taking a pill to get in the mood any different from taking a pill to get out of the mood so to speak? Does everyone who has condemned the OPs idea also feel the same about Viagra? It is, after all, going against nature in the same regard.

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That's a great point!

Thanks. This should be understandable on a logical level even to those hostile to the original idea.

Originally posted by Thescripter
How is taking a pill to get in the mood any different from taking a pill to get out of the mood so to speak? Does everyone who has condemned the OPs idea also feel the same about Viagra? It is, after all, going against nature in the same regard.

My issue isn't natural vs. unnatural... That ship has sailed. My issue is that there is NO issue. To me sex is awesome and so Viagra is also good in my view. I am not going to say I am right.

It just IS.

However. If you study evolution, SEX, is a HUGE advantage...

I don't want to come down too hard on the OP either. It is an interesting subject..

Originally posted by Thescripter
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I often wonder how we achieved anything in this world with such an awesome distraction.

Pretty much everything in history men have done relates to impressing women somehow.

I somehow doubt there would be massive, soaring skyscrapers jutting up into the air in cities across the globe if there was no sex drive.

Originally posted by silent thunder

Originally posted by Thescripter
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I often wonder how we achieved anything in this world with such an awesome distraction.

Pretty much everything in history men have done relates to impressing women somehow.

I somehow doubt there would be massive, soaring skyscrapers jutting up into the air in cities across the globe if there was no sex drive.

there is a Dave Chapell quote that goes something like. "A women's test in life is physical, and a man's test in life is a woman... ...If we could still have sex and live in a cardboard box we would. We only strive for fast cars and big houses, because that's what women want." Paraphrased by memory...

It's very true. I want the most simple life there is, but sex messes that up. And then I EVOLVE to 'get some' haha

"I want the most simple life there is, but sex messes that up."

Couldn't have said it better.

Originally posted by silent thunder

Originally posted by Thescripter
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I often wonder how we achieved anything in this world with such an awesome distraction.

Pretty much everything in history men have done relates to impressing women somehow.

I somehow doubt there would be massive, soaring skyscrapers jutting up into the air in cities across the globe if there was no sex drive.

Or massive debts, both national and personal, useless wars, etc..

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True, true. In the end, all sound and fury signifying nothing...

Even so, I'll pick this gore-streaked, inconveniently sexual human life over the bland peace that houseplants and lawn grass probably experience. Saying no to sex is saying no to life.

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On a similar note, I always wondered about the poor guys/gals who could never sustain a relationship due to mental or physical disabilities. Should they be forbidden from a sexual encounter in their life? Does prostitution deserve some form of merit in civilized society? Should we just kill them off so they don't suffer? Or should we feed them hormone suppressing drug therapy so they don't have to deal with urges?

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Yeah but dood, you have a beautiful gf and you seem to be pretty well-off based on some other stuff you've posted.

Have you ever been flat broke and sexless for a long time? Its not mellow at all, let me just put it that way.

Sure sex is great if you can afford it. Girls are expensive, is what it comes down to. For those of us just struggling to keep our heads above the water its not really all that cool to be pestered by our hormones, which try to get us to spend money we don't have to get embroiled in relationships. It would be nice to turn that stuff off when its not viable or affordable, if you know what I mean.

I would take it.

However, I have my own reasons.

Suffice it to say I'm that the kind of guy women want. The only way they'd be interested in me at all is if I was a very wealthy man.

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I would imagine this issue stems from an occurrence in your childhood.. Perhaps you were abused.. Judging by your complete distaste I would guess it was frequent and inflicted by someone close to you.. Either that or it was the result of one extremely violent and horrific event. This would explain your inability to make emotional / physical connections to another.

This also becomes apparent with your proclamation of leftist communism. I would say this means you feel directly betrayed by our current legal system.. I'm guessing this person was never convicted... As a result you lost all faith in the system and in humanity.. Because of this you have lost your sexual identity and feel no desire to procreate with another human being.. In fact you find the very act of coitus disgusting...

I think you should seek counseling for this and (just in case my joke was not a joke and you really are borderline homicidal) what was said previously as well..

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Not necessarily, Viagra may be fixing something that is damaged and should be working, while the OP's anti-desire pill is taking something conceptual away.

Viagra cannot create desire, it can only cause a physical reaction.

So Viagra could be interfering in nature as far as many medications cause a physical reaction.
It depends how we view "desire": some view it as something extra to normal embodiment, or as located in a specific region of the body or psyche, while others view it as a very essence of our being.

Society actually views sexuality as normal and healthy, at least heterosexual desire.
What they would rather have is a pill to replace one desire with another (for example homosexuality with heterosexuality), but having no desire is also considered unnatural.

How else could one be tempted by popular culture and guilt-tripped for it by religion?

Imagine such a pill became available - 90 per cent of all the churches and brothels would close.

Instead of gay parades we'd have two holidays a year where procreation is encouraged: "Stand firm and do your duty (although you hate it)" days.

Assuming the pill has a lasting effect, in a few years we'd need music concerts to raise funds for shipping Viagra to Africa, before the Africans go extinct.

Why would you want to deny your basic human instincts. You start suppressing your natural sexual emotions, you will find that other emotions become just as powerful, like violence maybe?

I think you need to re think this one.

I thought I was alone, guess not. I would take the pill, though I really don't see the need, since sex is uninteresting to me, anyways. This also makes me a HUGE turn off (No guy wants a girl who doesn't want sex), but I don't mind... it just goes to show what people think, at least to me.

Originally posted by DaMod
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So basically...

1. You think the human race should go extinct.

Not at all ! I think people would still want children even without a sex drive. And the sex drive clouds reason. Without it, we would be able to plan more carefully so that children would be taken care of.

Basically, I think in a perfect society children would be developed in artifical wombs and reared by the state. But this is another topic. Maybe I'll open a seperate thread on that later. For our purposes here, though, the point is that something as important as a child should not be left up to random hormonal urges and chance.

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So you believe that we should abandon our connection to the natural world altogether and become a society of emotional numb test tube babies??

Again I would read my edited post above... I'm sure it may ring true..

Just to say one more thing... Your Utopian ideals will undoubtedly fail just like every other Utopian idealism.... Including and especially the idealism you claim yourself to be..

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Why would you want to deny your basic human instincts. You start suppressing your natural sexual emotions, you will find that other emotions become just as powerful, like violence maybe?

I think you need to re think this one.

Were the eunuchs of old mass killers?
Or monks who abstained their sexual urges?