Does The Truth Make Me Racist

Originally posted by JBD1979
Just want to point out some counterfacts. Not saying these are wrong or racist to discuss(Well one is outright wrong)

*Blacks have a much higher crime rate than any other major race in America
A lot of this has to do with racism, and marijuana being illegal.

*Even in areas of lower incomes, the lower income whites/asians/hispanics will commit less crime then blacks in the same area
When you're raised in a certain manner, you'll act in a certain manner. Asians, hispanics have strict parents. Blacks often times have a parent in jail. We need to start helping parents raise black children. There are situations where the parent has no options. This is a societal problem at its core.
*People of African decent have been proven to have lower I.Q's than other races on the planet (with the Australian Natives being the only exception)
A lot of this has to do with not having a proper upbringing. When your dad's in prison, there's isn't going to be anyone to teach you things.
*The vast majority of black youth embrace a culture of violence, crime. and overall immorality that is glorified by rap music.( rock music can be just as crude but is not as LITERALLY embraced by a race as a whole)
Vast majority? yeah that's bull. Plus, white's are pretty violent as well, we love to watch violence on TV and in movies. And the most heinous crimes are usually committed by whites.

Plus Black people invented rap. White people invented many popular genres. of course black people will embrace something that is helping get people off the streets. And a TON of white people like rap.
If you think white culture doesn't embrace immorality as well....I don't know where you're living.
*Blacks that step out of the mold, be it their musical preference or their political preference are often ridiculed by the majority
Not sure where your proof of that statement came from.

Originally posted by Ghost375
*People of African decent have been proven to have lower I.Q's than other races on the planet (with the Australian Natives being the only exception)
A lot of this has to do with not having a proper upbringing. When your dad's in prison, there's isn't going to be anyone to teach you things.

Unless it is flawed, and IQ test doesn't include things you would of learned. It derives from logic and thinking, not regurgitating what you have learned. That's why people with high IQ do not necessarily have the best grades in school.

Anyway, at school it's best to not think and repeat exactly what you have been told without changing anything.

I'm speechless .
I don't know where to begin, so I won't .
Southern Guardian has it covered.

Originally posted by spacedoubt
Drop a Bushman, and a Wall street broker into the Kalahari.
Let's measure IQ then and there.
Even iq tests are culturally rigged, either purposely, or accidentally out of ignorance.

Secondly. raise your hand (figuratively, or with a post) if you are not in the slight bit racist.
I'm talking about the things you think in the recesses of your mind...Not what you say out loud, or think as primary thoughts on a daily basis.
If you are honest, you will all raise your hand. I am raising mine. And I wish I didn't have to.

I can honestly say I have never hated anyone because of the color of their skin.

But let's face it we are naturally tribe like and it is a survival instinct.

But I don't see that by color of the skin, more by community.

reply to post by JBD1979


Well....do you have statistical proof backing up your assertions?

Also, there's such a thing as tact. Especially involving a black woman.

Originally posted by abe froman
Here is the absolute truth: If george zimmerman wasn't walking around with a gun looking for trouble ,that young man would still be alive. absolute fact.

Try this for the truth and see how it fits.
With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed the unarmed 17-year-old, then Trayvon climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times, leaving him bloody and battered, authorities have revealed to the Orlando Sentinel.

That is the account Zimmerman gave police, and much of it has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities say.
www.freerepublic.com...

Originally posted by Nite_wing

Originally posted by abe froman
Here is the absolute truth: If george zimmerman wasn't walking around with a gun looking for trouble ,that young man would still be alive. absolute fact.

Try this for the truth and see how it fits.
With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed the unarmed 17-year-old, then Trayvon climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times, leaving him bloody and battered, authorities have revealed to the Orlando Sentinel.

That is the account Zimmerman gave police, and much of it has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities say.
www.freerepublic.com...

I guess when your scared to go to jail and dead people cant talk,i guess he can pretty much say what he wants to say.
lmaf,The sheeple bots and there ...sources'.

TextTry this for the truth and see how it fits.

So, because the killer said it, then its true huh ?

Did you know that ice cream is sold in the middle of the Mojave Desert',using no cooling or refrigration,i know,its amazing huh!

i have been reading this book on how to controle the mind of a sheeple,its truly amazing.

reply to post by JBD1979

And yeah, i would call you a racist if you think that these differences is linked to racial/genetically differences.
The reason for less average iq, higher crime rates and so on has a much more complicated reason that has nothing to do genetics.

reply to post by LastProphet527


Read the second paragraph. I think the witnesses actually know more than Jesse and Al.

Originally posted by Vandettas
Hmmmm....ATS is going to have to make a "Racist" forum for all these threads.

We all know what this is about. Zimmer and Martin. This thread is stupid. REALLY REALLY stupid.

Agreed. This is not the ATS I joined.

It's beginning to get embarrassing.

The crime issue is a nurture issue, not nature. To claim that black people are inherently going to be more violent or criminal by nature IS racist. The CIA creating the crack epidemic didn't help it either. Annnnnnnnd the inner*city schools are awful.

Black people born and bread in the suburbs have the same crime statistics as whites. There's your food for thought.

ATS is getting embarrassingly racist

reply to post by JBD1979


Nobody will like this, but I went to a Predominately White Elementary School, I remember to this day the only two black people that were in my 5th grade class.... Because of redistricting I was one of 4 kids on the redistricting line that had to go to middle and high school 14 miles away. Drastically changing things; I was the minority 70/30, 30% white. Quite a difference. In high school, my Varsity Quarterback was killed over drug money, by his best friend, want to look it up, I don't care do it; Antoine Falkner killed Quincy Powers in Maryland. It's not that I was raised by better parents it is completely the environment one grows up in. If you are prone to bad activity by the area you can be prone to bad activity. Simply put.

29INFDIV

reply to post by RealSpoke


Read my last post, not racist, its completely the environment that one is raised into.

29INFDIV

Originally posted by JBD1979

*People of African decent have been proven to have lower I.Q's than other races on the planet (with the Australian Natives being the only exception)

That is where you run afoul of facts here.

I'm also a White Man who married a Black Woman.

Her Father is a Heart Surgeon. Two of her Uncles have advanced degrees. One is one of the countries leading Forensics people. My Daughter is in an Ivy League University on full scholarship and skipped two Grades.

IQ is a bogus premise to begin with. Mine is estimated at 148 and I don't believe in IQ testing. It's absurd. I deal with people daily who do things I can't do, who are smarter than I am at things other than academics.

I spent a few years in an inner city poor neighborhood and the problem is not at all IQ, it's environment. Color means nothing.

Racism is rampant among Blacks however. That may be what you are running into. I dealt with a lot of it while still with my first Wife. Most of her family accepted me no problem and treated me like just another part of the family, while a couple of her family members never missed an opportunity to let me know they hate Whites for simply being White. They also hate my daughter and call her "High Yellow" and me "Cracker" all the time. I, being a mature adult simply ignore them.

Stop generalizing and pigeon holing people. You tell anyone they are not as smart as you they will react badly. Part of maturity is knowing when to keep your thoughts to yourself.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
You do not see the whole situation. When you put people into a precarious situation where they have no choice but to react a certain way and then you label their reactions to their race, yes it is the truth. Does it make you racist? Yes. Because you do not know why certain people act a certain way.

The muslims who did 9.11 reacted because of the bombings and occupation of their homelands. Does it make muslims terrorsts? No

Do people think muslims are terrorists? Yes. Are they racist? yes

When blacks have no way to advance their education and get out of the ghetto lifestyle and then they react we are quick to associate it with their race but it is better to associate it with a lower socioeconomic status.

That is of coarse assuming that blacks are the only ones to have ever been born and raised in "ghetto" environments. To say that no other races have come from those areas is in itself a racist statement. Weather or not one chooses to better him/her self makes all the difference in the world!

Originally posted by User8911

Originally posted by Ghost375
*People of African decent have been proven to have lower I.Q's than other races on the planet (with the Australian Natives being the only exception)
A lot of this has to do with not having a proper upbringing. When your dad's in prison, there's isn't going to be anyone to teach you things.

Unless it is flawed, and IQ test doesn't include things you would of learned. It derives from logic and thinking, not regurgitating what you have learned. That's why people with high IQ do not necessarily have the best grades in school.

Anyway, at school it's best to not think and repeat exactly what you have been told without changing anything.

yes, but you need to develop your thinking skills, if you don't have the opportunity to develop said skills, your IQ will not reach its full potential.

There are racists in all of the following groups:

Blacks
English
French
Germans
Greys?
Irish
Italians
Jews
Muslims
Scottish
Welsh
Whites
Yellows

The word racist is now outdated/lost all meaning and is used by uncivilised/immature/scared people to get one up on polite/mature/relaxed people.

It is now time to develop a new word which describes a human who has resorted to uncivilised, immature, cowardly/aggressive behaviour using only the fact of color, nationality, religion as the basis for this.

"Animal" insults animals.

Chris Rock suggested "'n-word's" but this has historical connotations.



We need a 21st century Shakespeare to develop such a word but consensus will be difficult to achieve. The definition of the word would have to include why the person was behaving in this way.

reply to post by dr treg


It's already in the Dictionary. Bigot. Covers it all.

Personally, I am quite color blind when it comes to the human race, especially when it comes to someone attempting to take what is mine! Be you black, yellow, white or even purple I will protect me and mine! If you want what I've got, earn it as I have!

Anyone ever wondered why the ATS theme is black and not white?