What if our unknown powers are being used against us?

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
Amazing! I was in the middle of researching and writing a thread just like this!

I was looking into "the secret" better known as "The Law of Attraction" to see if it could be used against us. We know that sigil magic is used frequently, and our subconscious thoughts are constantly effected by subliminal messaging. Do our subconscious thoughts also apply in The Law of Attraction? Could they make us all fear a mega quake on a specific day, and then it happen?

I do believe our abilities are kept from us, and used against us. All of them. Great thread, glad we're connected.

Greetings:

[color=Cyan]Synchronicity!

If one were to think that mass consciousness can manifest a "predicted" reality (event), 18 October 2012 will be in many millions of Californian's minds, 'programmed for disaster' at precisely 10:18 A.M. PST as part of the largest earthquake drill in history, The Great California Shake Out ...

And this from yesterday just might have bearing here.

The fractals screamed "Divinity" to us.

chaotic attractor fractal

Peace Love Light
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reply to post by Gseven


Greetings:

We have perhaps half-a-dozen threads in process postulating potential realities along those lines. Great thread!

Perhaps should have posted this first.

S&F OP!

When enough peeps understand...

When waiting is filled...

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This is way out of topic but if were not agreeing with the goverment dont we have the power to request a new goverment power at it says in the Constitution

Originally posted by mysteryman246
This is way out of topic but if were not agreeing with the goverment dont we have the power to request a new goverment power at it says in the Constitution

Theoretically yes. Practically, I assume the torches and pitchforks would have to come out before we get a new government.

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What if we just request it sort of like a petition and if that doesnt work a protest in other words a boycott to make it happen and finally if that doesnt work we use pitchforks and torches to make it happen

I have always enjoyed this line of reasoning,, maybe because I have thought this way for so long and thought it was original to me,, knowing that is not the case because of the Collective Unconscious of Humanity. There is so much to say on this topic, I may ramble a bit here,,

First off, I would like to mention, due to reading the last few posts, Loren Coleman who wrote about cryptids and such for years. He once said something in his writings that stuck with me through the years, about Names. Place names, people names etc. how they sometimes coagulate this phenomenon. An example,,, look at some serial killers,,, alot have similar names,,, Wayne being the one I am thinking of at the moment.
John Wayne Gacy, Wayne Alan Ford, Wayne Williams, Patrick Wayne Kearney to name a few.

The Name and place name of LaFayette. derivative from "Fey" possibly a clue?,, Many phenomenon center in towns/cities with that name. My thought being that whole concept of the power of Names,,, thus the reason demons/spirits and Gods were so protective of their 'True Names"

Tulpa have been a favorite study of mine for years now, and I have witnessed much in regards to the creation and 'Life" of said tulpa. I believe there is a progression of growth from a random thought, to a thought that is worked upon by consciousness energy to build such 'beings'. So, we start from a simple 'group thought' to a thought form, to an Egregore and end up with a full blown Tulpa. (Tulpa and Meme are similar but have major differences, in my mind, a Meme can give birth to a Tulpa)

Tulpa that are consciously created are of course the most powerful and at the same time most dangerous. My favorite Example of this is the whole idea/religious fear induced creation of the Beast and Antichrist.
I tell my Christian friends (I am pagan) that they will Get their Armageddon and Antichrist because of the thousands of years of Energy INPUT into this Tulpa/Meme. This is a prime example of a Fear Product, and those of us who understand how this creation is working itself out in history see that we have our work cut out for us in convincing the ''sheep'' to forget (the Power of Forgetting I mentioned in previous post) this Tulpa/Meme and focus on Another Possible future.

Western Civilization is being brought to its knees in my opinion by such thought.. And this is why Crowley wrote the Book of the Law the way he did. Parsons understood this in the Babylon Working also. Thus opening the floodgates of our Collective Unconscious was both a good thing and bad thing,, because only by bringing this all to light will humanity be able to deal with the Dark Shadow self/side of humanity.

It is a deep Rabbithole.

My work with Tulpa of late has focused on Genius Loci,, which are the spirits of Place. They are the easiest and most access available of this type of phenomenon.
I believe that working with Genius Loci may be humanity's only hope to have a future outside of the Dystopia like futures that are churning up as possibilities. We still have a choice, but we are daily limiting ourselves and the time we have to implement a reversal of thousands of years of work on Tulpa that only show Humans self destructive bent. I see glimmers of hope now and then that something can be done,, but am not sure enough of us can gather together in time to stave off the future that so many have not only worked towards but are praying for daily.... That is a lot of energy to counter and if possible to harness and reverse course..... but I think it is possible.
The Clues are Mythic of course.
One such clue is from the Hopi,, where they await on the return of the True White Brother man to come and return the peoples to the ways of the Native peoples.... Blue Star Kachina where are you? Time to take off your Mask.
So much can be said on this thread... great start of a needed line of thought.

reply to post by EarthCitizen23


Question is, how do you forget something that is so prominent in your and everyone's mind? It's like trying NOT to think of a green elephant.

Also, if it's the truth that our minds are so powerful that we're constantly feeding the NHEs and earthly events with our thoughts, then that means that we here at ATS and other conspiracy sites are hugely contributing to the problem.

And while we're at it, it would also mean that the Internet itself were a major contributor. Back in the day, when a murder, kidnapping or natural disaster happened somewhere, it would take days or weeks or months for you to hear about it, if ever. Today it's all right at our fingertips, and we're bombarded with negative news and predictions all day long. How can we ever reverse that? I guess the only way would be for one person at a time to completely reject all Internet news and conspiracy sites, as well as TV and newspapers, and TV shows and movies that deal with negativity or project a dystopian future... incl. all crime shows, horror movies, etc. etc.

Can it be done? I can only say that I take in a lot of this stuff, but inside I'm usually staying emotionally detached. It's not very often that I get outraged or even upset by any of the things I read.

That wasn't always the case. At one point I noticed that I was becoming exceedingly negative in my outlook -- and other people told me so too -- and I started to focus more on my immediate life, which is actually very balanced and happy. So nowadays, whenever I'm in danger of getting sucked into the "The world is horrible -- look at the terrible things that happen everywhere" mindset, I remember that my own little world is darn near perfect. That instantly calms me down.

Same with fears and anxiety. I'm a worrywart, but whenever I get into that kind of funk, worrying about money or bad things that might happen, I tell myself, "Right here and now, I have money" and "Right here and now, my family and I are OK." You realize that virtually ALL fear pertains to the future... a future that most likely will never come, and if it does, it's rarely as bad as you envisioned. It makes a huge difference for your overall happiness and emotional balance to start thinking that way.

Originally posted by sylvie
reply to post by EarthCitizen23

 

Question is, how do you forget something that is so prominent in your and everyone's mind? It's like trying NOT to think of a green elephant.

Also, if it's the truth that our minds are so powerful that we're constantly feeding the NHEs and earthly events with our thoughts, then that means that we here at ATS and other conspiracy sites are hugely contributing to the problem.

And while we're at it, it would also mean that the Internet itself were a major contributor. Back in the day, when a murder, kidnapping or natural disaster happened somewhere, it would take days or weeks or months for you to hear about it, if ever. Today it's all right at our fingertips, and we're bombarded with negative news and predictions all day long. How can we ever reverse that? I guess the only way would be for one person at a time to completely reject all Internet news and conspiracy sites, as well as TV and newspapers, and TV shows and movies that deal with negativity or project a dystopian future... incl. all crime shows, horror movies, etc. etc.

Can it be done? I can only say that I take in a lot of this stuff, but inside I'm usually staying emotionally detached. It's not very often that I get outraged or even upset by any of the things I read.

That wasn't always the case. At one point I noticed that I was becoming exceedingly negative in my outlook -- and other people told me so too -- and I started to focus more on my immediate life, which is actually very balanced and happy. So nowadays, whenever I'm in danger of getting sucked into the "The world is horrible -- look at the terrible things that happen everywhere" mindset, I remember that my own little world is darn near perfect. That instantly calms me down.

Same with fears and anxiety. I'm a worrywart, but whenever I get into that kind of funk, worrying about money or bad things that might happen, I tell myself, "Right here and now, I have money" and "Right here and now, my family and I are OK." You realize that virtually ALL fear pertains to the future... a future that most likely will never come, and if it does, it's rarely as bad as you envisioned. It makes a huge difference for your overall happiness and emotional balance to start thinking that way.

edit on 25-3-2012 by sylvie because: (no reason given)

Hey Sylvie!! Love the Manifest Queen thing!!
To answer your question,, which you answered yourself,, you Think on something else and invest the Energy there instead of something that will only bring 'Negative Fruit". It is the constant feeding that feeds a Tulpa, so take away the food so to speak, but this alone will not solve the problem of Tulpa that already have a 'Life of their own",, more is required. A Tulpa essentially has to be 'reabsorbed' to really be quelled into the mindstuff of it's creation,, so humanity has a lot of work in regards to the system/world that we have created and are creating.
Shadows have to be brought to conscious acknowledgement to be dealt with properly and humanity and it's shadows are epic and very much alive as we both can tell.
The clue you stated is Ourselves. To recognize when we are dipping into the pool of Tulpa creation that isn't in our best interest we must pull back and CHANGE OUR PERCEPTIONS of the REALITY we wish to REMOLD.
I developed a ritual for myself that I call Changing the Universe, that enables me to accomplish this in a quicker fashion than I used to be able to do in my younger days. Basically once I recognize I am on a 'path' that leads to a negative,, I switch some Energy Invested 'pylons' to bring about an Alternate Path in my midst. It has worked for many years, and my manifestations in my life are due I believe in the quantum physics and science of this worldview.
Your Touching on the Power of NOW type thinking is also very much a big part of this, as the only way to "Change" the Future is to create/recognize the bifurcations that exist in the NOW and Step INTO THEM/// or on them if you prefer the image of a 'path'.
I honestly believe that there is science behind what we are talking about and have always tried to think about this in a logical and scientific way. Those who troll and bash this type of thinking haven't done the work to experiment and find out that YES IT WORKS and WORKS Daily in EVERYONES LIVES even if they do not '''believe'' in ''magickal'' type We Create Our Reality thinking. The Evidence is in OUR LIVES as both you and I seem to agree
As far as the people here at ATS being part of the problem,, I agree to a degree. I also think that given most are countered with oppositional thought,, that has an effect and bearing on how things unfold in ''this reality'' we agree upon.
The Internet. Yes also,, but I feel it is more like electricity and the use determines it's negative or positive role.

reply to post by Gseven


Make sense to me, the source of power is the human mind. Take a look around, how many people are trying to influence us, to draw our attention, or - us to their side, want to make us believe and trust them, or to manipulate us through subtle techniques of persuation? Am i paranoid or schizophrenic? Just ask it to ur self.

Its just like the conceal and revelation game. At the end of their preperation, they want us to get notice of the plan. Because if we believe and fear it, they gain strength. All the same with religion or political propaganda.

Call me a wacko.

There is Another thread along similar lines that is wanting to focus more on the quantum physics of this line of thought... just so everyone knows... I want both to succeed and be useful.

here is the link to Our Thoughts Determine..

We are all just rats in a laboratory....the sooner we realize this the BETTER.

reply to post by holywar666


Victim Mentality gets us all NOWHERE,, the sooner you realize this the better.
I do sometimes refer to the theory of KING RAT,, but I am definitely a rat in a Maze.
Yet I do understand this image, and how it can be soothing to some, I choose to tap my own Divinity and rise above the circumstance I am thrown into and see what I become,,, but again definitely not a rat or mouse,,, unless it is the Mouse that Roared..... maybe BEN,,, or Willard when pushed....lol.

This is my playground as well. I have been dedicating my life to understanding the workings of manifesting reality, by sideways route of religious study, magickal study, science, social sciences, quantum science, metaphysics, broad generalized paranormal research, first-hand experience, gathering 2nd hand experiences.

I have determined certain truths, truths which will function for this particular emanation (me).

The VAST amount of control attempts by those in the shadows of humanity...Whom consequently were indoctrinated themselves by their influential families and associates...from a LINE of indoctrinated people who had the old "mystic" knowledge at their disposal, or rather CONTROLLED the Knowledge.

The Tulpas, is a new word for me, but a process I know.

I censor/filter my feelings, as Tulpas form easily. I actively try not to hate or feel hurt, because inevitably when I do Karma is my Vengeance. I was a poltergeist teen, and have been even before my teens. When I aim, it shoots.

It's F*cking mindblowing, pardon my language. I comes like breathing, it's that natural. It brakes my heart, when it comes out indirectly to harm. I truly live in LIGHT and LOVE...but I am "human" and sometimes I get "butthurt" over things which seem cruel to me, like greed and people with crappy selfish or mean-spirited attitudes. When those feelings sting me, Karma starts to Cause Things, which seem "Coincidental" but tragic to the people places and things, which have caused me to feel hurt or angry.

I actively Live in Light & Love, so that The Manifesting I do is a healing and helping variety, because of the great amount of Energy Channeling that happens through me. I use Jesus, or rather He uses me, in a symbiotic sort of totem experience. I have asked for him to be my guardian, or Lens which my energy Channeling Manifests, so that nothing "Gets out of Hand" with the innate powers many of us have been bestowed with, as I have been bestowed.

Do you guys understand where I am coming from on this? Many Thanks, and this is my kind of Thread.

I absolutely agree. Our thoughts shape the world we live in and the lives we live - I believe this. If the world is a book, we're it's writers. We need to stop writing about the negatives and start writing about the positives. Society is built to keep us ignorant, to keep us consuming, and to keep us from realizing our sovereignty, and yes, they use us against ourselves this way.

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Great post, EarthCitizen! I like your way of thinking.

Originally posted by holywar666
We are all just rats in a laboratory....the sooner we realize this the BETTER.

But that's the problem... too many people think like that, feeling powerless. WE ARE NOT POWERLESS. In fact, our consciousness creates our reality constantly. Unfortunately most people don't know how to create consciously so they can make better choices.

Originally posted by matthewgraybeal
The Tulpas, is a new word for me, but a process I know.

I censor/filter my feelings, as Tulpas form easily. I actively try not to hate or feel hurt, because inevitably when I do Karma is my Vengeance. I was a poltergeist teen, and have been even before my teens. When I aim, it shoots.

It's F*cking mindblowing, pardon my language. I comes like breathing, it's that natural. It brakes my heart, when it comes out indirectly to harm. I truly live in LIGHT and LOVE...but I am "human" and sometimes I get "butthurt" over things which seem cruel to me, like greed and people with crappy selfish or mean-spirited attitudes. When those feelings sting me, Karma starts to Cause Things, which seem "Coincidental" but tragic to the people places and things, which have caused me to feel hurt or angry.

I never curse anyone or wish them ill, no matter what they do to me. I console myself with the thought that Karma is divine justice and it's not my place to dish it out -- what these people send out WILL eventually come to back to them, threefold.

Originally posted by sylvie

Originally posted by matthewgraybeal
The Tulpas, is a new word for me, but a process I know.

I censor/filter my feelings, as Tulpas form easily. I actively try not to hate or feel hurt, because inevitably when I do Karma is my Vengeance. I was a poltergeist teen, and have been even before my teens. When I aim, it shoots.

It's F*cking mindblowing, pardon my language. I comes like breathing, it's that natural. It brakes my heart, when it comes out indirectly to harm. I truly live in LIGHT and LOVE...but I am "human" and sometimes I get "butthurt" over things which seem cruel to me, like greed and people with crappy selfish or mean-spirited attitudes. When those feelings sting me, Karma starts to Cause Things, which seem "Coincidental" but tragic to the people places and things, which have caused me to feel hurt or angry.

I never curse anyone or wish them ill, no matter what they do to me. I console myself with the thought that Karma is divine justice and it's not my place to dish it out -- what these people send out WILL eventually come to back to them, threefold.

Yes and Yes, and consider this for a moment... Karma as a Tulpa, by complete unintentional accident, as if by the believing in it...the laws of Karma do their thing unto those who are in need of a Karma lesson. Which makes my head spin, the Karma Law empowered as a Thought-Form-With-Intention. (spooked out face here)

Anywho, your thought?

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Do you mean we are creating Karma ourselves? You mean like I'm doing something wrong and I actually CREATE the consequences, not just bring them upon me? Interesting thought.

Now here's a controversial thought: In one of my previous posts, I said that Sarah Graymalkin, the dark old witch in Nick Redfern's book "Three Men Seeking Monsters," said that not just fairies but also the old gods had been forgotten and weren't believed in anymore.

Could it be that Yahweh/Jehovah was one of those old gods, but he managed not to be forgotten and is now domineering the landscape, gaining power from the devotion of his followers?

Could that be why the first and foremost of the commandments is, "You shall not have any other gods"? Would losing the devotion and worship to other "old gods" like Zeus, Aphrodite, Isis, etc. weaken him? Could the whole reason behind the Bible, Koran, and other scriptures be a fierce competition between Cormons to get the attention of mankind?

I've always wondered why the Creator of the universe, the ultimate, absolute, omnipresent and omnipotent Godhead, would need to be worshiped and sacrificed to by us little human worms. The God I believe in doesn't want or need any of that stuff; he is very much self-contained.

Could it be that the need for worship is a Cormon need? In the Gnostic book, "The Secret Teachings of Jesus," in "The Secret Book of John," Jesus tells the story of how the world was created. In that story, Yahweh is one of the low-level minions of Yaldabaoth (whom we'd call Satan/Lucifer = the bad guy) and is one of the servants designated to rule over Earth and keep things in line.

This is just one of my many speculative thoughts, but quite interesting if you think it through, without religious bias.