Exclusive! First hand Witness: Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman Zimmerman Innocent Smoking Gun

reply to post by popsmayhem

My biggest problem with this whole situation
is how the MSM HAS BEEN LYING and supressing
information since the beginning!!

can you prove this?

if you can - you'd best call up the legal team representing Mr. Zimmerman - and hopefully representing a few cops on this case

they could probably use this information - don't you think?

Originally posted by popsmayhem

A 9-11 armchair air conditioned room sitting
dispatcher is NOT A COP..

And neither is a member of neighborhood watch.

"WATCH"

If you want to fight crime and shoot people, become a cop. Don't walk around your town looking for trouble with a loaded gun under the guise of being a watchman.

Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by SmArTbEaTz
If Zimmerman would of left the kid alone and backed off, as police told him to do, the kid would be back home down in Miami and I'd be on another post...

Police did not tell him to do anything..

A 9-11 armchair air conditioned room sitting
dispatcher is NOT A COP..

they have no authority to tell you what
to do or not anymore then another civilian..

All they have is a script to read off of..
If you always listen to the 9-11 dispatcher
you might find yourself dead because they will
tell you to not do nothing even if you have a gun
and some crazy man is pillaging through your house
while you cower in a closet on the phone with them
telling you to do nothing

its good to know that all anyone has to do to get away with murder is to provoke someone into threatening me anytime, anyplace

joe horn would be proud.

reply to post by The Sword


Well.. I wouldn't call Zimmerman white, but actually you are wrong. I don't think the majority is defending Zimmerman at all.

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis

My biggest problem with this whole situation
is how the MSM HAS BEEN LYING and supressing
information since the beginning!!

they could probably use this information - don't you think?

They have the truth, zimmerman and his team have the truth
that is all that they need. The truth and witness testimony
from people who saw this happen.
Zimmerman does not have to prove he is innocent or that he did not
commit a murder
they have to prove he is guilty of murder.
This is not nazi germany we have due process
innocent until proven guilty..
You can't prove he did not act in self defense.
With the eye witness testimony, zimmerman
DID act in self defense after being attacked by
treyvon

Originally posted by rebellender

your operative words here are all the time, you know your neighborhood....So Did Zimmerman

But he did not know what street he was on or that Martin's father lived there?

nothing wrong with sympathy -

reply to post by Spiramirabilis

I am now not being sympathetic to your trolling positions on my open mindedness not to put George Zimmerman on trial until he is charged with a crime

reply to post by dreamstalker


I didn't say they weren't guy. I said the people that have interacted with this guy who patrolled their neighborhood and kept the minorities out (which seems to be a priority in this neighborhood) might not want to put someone they know up for murder and lose their neighborhood protection. This wasn't a normal street where the people had no idea there was someone patrolling. No matter how small they have a vested interest, and who is to say more than one of them don't share Zimmerman's animosity towards minorities?

So think before you speak.

reply to post by steve95988


What makes him a thug?

He was walking in his own town, to his own home, where his little brother was waiting to finish watching a basketball game, while talking to his girlfriend. He was just buying something to eat.

What makes him any different than you?

reply to post by popsmayhem


Again if your going to say Zimmerman did not have to follow clear instruction from someone "trained" for this then you are also neglecting this again

When the Retreat at Twin Lakes community told Sanford police it wanted to start a neighborhood watch, city volunteer program coordinator Wendy Dorival spoke to them in September 2011. Her PowerPoint presentation, and a neighborhood watch manual the city makes available, both make clear: Don't confront. "The philosophy is, 'No weapons. Don't confront. Call the police,' " Dorival said Wednesday. She said that was her last dealings with the neighborhood, which chose its own leaders and had no sanctioning or accrediting relationship with law enforcement. The National Sheriff's Association said Wednesday it has "no information indicating the community where the incident occurred has ever even registered with the NSA Neighborhood Watch program."

reply to post by LErickson


so you know the whole story?
enlighten even the Sanford P.D. on this case so it can be put to rest.
everybody wants to know, even the President of the United States wants the answers, so could you please call 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and enlighten EVERYBODY.

reply to post by seabag


And it's not self defense if you attack someone who is calculatedly stalking you and has a gun?

Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis

My biggest problem with this whole situation
is how the MSM HAS BEEN LYING and supressing
information since the beginning!!

they could probably use this information - don't you think?

They have the truth, zimmerman and his team have the truth
that is all that they need. The truth and witness testimony
from people who saw this happen.
Zimmerman does not have to prove he is innocent or that he did not
commit a murder
they have to prove he is guilty of murder.
This is not nazi germany we have due process
innocent until proven guilty..
You can't prove he did not act in self defense.
With the eye witness testimony, zimmerman
DID act in self defense after being attacked by
treyvon

that's all I'm sayin' too - pops :-)

the truth will out

and neither you or I can know what that is right now - though we both have our very strong opinions

so - why are you ranting?

you hate the MSM? get in line :-)

Originally posted by SpaceJ
reply to post by steve95988

 

What makes him a thug?

He was walking in his own town, to his own home, where his little brother was waiting to finish watching a basketball game, while talking to his girlfriend. He was just buying something to eat.

What makes him any different than you?

I have seen his fb page... his posts... his pictures.... he was a known gang member... he flashes gang signs in his recent pictures... he talks about drugs.... he was out at night prowling!! you DONT do that in my town!! You Dont!!! especially when there had been multiple break-ins and robberies! Thats not good!!!

Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by SmArTbEaTz
If Zimmerman would of left the kid alone and backed off, as police told him to do, the kid would be back home down in Miami and I'd be on another post...

Police did not tell him to do anything..

A 9-11 armchair air conditioned room sitting
dispatcher is NOT A COP..

they have no authority to tell you what
to do or not anymore then another civilian..

All they have is a script to read off of..
If you always listen to the 9-11 dispatcher
you might find yourself dead because they will
tell you to not do nothing even if you have a gun
and some crazy man is pillaging through your house
while you cower in a closet on the phone with them
telling you to do nothing..

Treyvon had no right attacking zimmerman
zimmerman had every right to check out
the odd behavior coming from treyvon.
Since when did looking at someone
or saying hey what are you doing
warrant an ass whooping?
It never has been, and treyvon whooped up
on the wrong guy this time.
Treyvon is the agressor as say eye witness accounts
people who were there saw treyvon start the fight
putting zimmerman in a situation he thought his own
life was threatened

edit on 24-3-2012 by popsmayhem because: (no reason given)

On the advice... either way he was playing powerman and had NO reason to approach the kid. How do you know what was said to the kid by Zimmerpunk? Zimmer could of threatened the kid. You, or I, have no idea. The fact is Zimmer took things into his own hands which is against the law.

Eye witness accounts the altercation, not the approachment... HUGE difference... If I was walking and someone told me to stay right there, I'll tell them to f off and keep going. This COULD be what happened and Zimmer jumped out of his car and stopped the boy BY FORCE. I'd knock his butt out too. That kids soul could still be wondering why some older man jumped him and shot him because he refused to stop for him...

BUT the fact is we do not know what happen... another fact is a unarmed kid is dead because a MAN shot him because he was afraid for his life?

Did he really think this teen could beat him to death with a skittles box? weak...

Originally posted by steve95988

Originally posted by SpaceJ
reply to post by steve95988

 

What makes him a thug?

He was walking in his own town, to his own home, where his little brother was waiting to finish watching a basketball game, while talking to his girlfriend. He was just buying something to eat.

What makes him any different than you?

I have seen his fb page... his posts... his pictures.... he was a known gang member... he flashes gang signs in his recent pictures... he talks about drugs.... he was out at night prowling!! you DONT do that in my town!! You Dont!!! especially when there had been multiple break-ins and robberies! Thats not good!!!

heaven forbid you judge this youg man by his own colors, how dare you

Originally posted by popsmayhem

ZIMMERMAN would of had no right shooting
treyvon if treyvon did not attack him first..

And he would not have been anywhere near Zimmerman if Zimmerman had stayed in his car and let the police handle police business.

reply to post by rebellender


trolling?

why is it you won't answer one single, genuine, direct question?

trolls don't ask real questions - but your fellow forum members do - and have

it's trolls that don't answer questions - not even the really easy ones

:-)

what's up with that?

reply to post by SpaceJ


Perfect, this is the example that shows the OP's argument holds no water, from the pure 9-11 calls alone one can infer that Trayvon was being followed and in an area that had recent crimes could it not have been the younger boy who felt threatened by a stranger approaching him late at night and possibly trying to detain without the right, because again Zimmerman is not the law and had no legal right to confront the boy.

When the Retreat at Twin Lakes community told Sanford police it wanted to start a neighborhood watch, city volunteer program coordinator Wendy Dorival spoke to them in September 2011. Her PowerPoint presentation, and a neighborhood watch manual the city makes available, both make clear: Don't confront. "The philosophy is, 'No weapons. Don't confront. Call the police,' " Dorival said Wednesday. She said that was her last dealings with the neighborhood, which chose its own leaders and had no sanctioning or accrediting relationship with law enforcement. The National Sheriff's Association said Wednesday it has "no information indicating the community where the incident occurred has ever even registered with the NSA Neighborhood Watch program."

Originally posted by steve95988
reply to post by SmArTbEaTz

 

zimmerman and the community is tired of getting robbed!!! This kid could have killed zimmerman! Does not matter if he only had skittles, these gangsters are capable of killing with their bare hands!! zimmerman hopefully has secured his community! One less thug on the streets!! millions more to go though

You know people may think the same of you (being a thug, not saying you are though)... does that give them the right to stop you, question you, argue with you, start an altercation with you, and shot you dead?