Man Flies Like A Bird Flapping His Own Wings..

Oh and while we are at it!!!!!

OVER UNITY ANYONE?

EARTH SPINS ON OVERUNITY!!!!! SHE'S WOUND LIKE A TESLA COIL FOR MAGNETIC CIRCUITRY. EACH PLANET HAS ITS OWN.

THE MOON DOESNT

AND THEY LIE, VENUS DOESNT EITHER! THAT REVERSE ROTATION WAS ADDED TO HIDE THEIR TESLA SCIENCE.

HOW DO YA THINK THEY FIGURED IT OUT, OBSERVATION!

Seems real to me. If if's really real, that would be the most amazing invention of the decade... for me

Yeah, love the body flopping around in the video before he straightens out his legs. How come some of you can't see there is very off with this video.

The way he "flies" around :35 is exactly how animation looks like in crappy, low budget horror movies. Something tells me those crappy, low budget horror movies didn't get it right.

Originally posted by dplum517
Guys ..... how about we all go to the actual site this person has made, he documented all his steps and ambitions.

Humanbirdwings.net

This all seems way too detailed and thought out to be a HOAX.

It applies the same basic principles that birds use to fly ..... how is that difficult to comprehend?

edit on 21-3-2012 by dplum517 because: (no reason given)

My post got left behind at the bottom of the last page ....... before calling it a HOAX go read and watch everything this guy has done on the website dedicated to his wings.

Ohh ..and here is his first test flight that was a little disappointing.

Originally posted by dplum517

Originally posted by dplum517
Guys ..... how about we all go to the actual site this person has made, he documented all his steps and ambitions.

Humanbirdwings.net

This all seems way too detailed and thought out to be a HOAX.

It applies the same basic principles that birds use to fly ..... how is that difficult to comprehend?

edit on 21-3-2012 by dplum517 because: (no reason given)

My post got left behind at the bottom of the last page ....... before calling it a HOAX go read and watch everything this guy has done on the website dedicated to his wings.

Ohh ..and here is his first test flight that was a little disappointing.

edit on 21-3-2012 by dplum517 because: (no reason given)

Even that is fake more than likely. At 2:04 when he first takes off the ground with that jump, the vertical jump is way too fast. If that thing was capable of flying, if he jumped up, the thing he's wearing would have actually pushed down to some degree resisting against the jump. It clearly doesn't.

Originally posted by dplum517
Guys ..... how about we all go to the actual site this person has made, he documented all his steps and ambitions.

Humanbirdwings.net

This all seems way too detailed and thought out to be a HOAX.

It applies the same basic principles that birds use to fly ..... how is that difficult to comprehend?

edit on 21-3-2012 by dplum517 because: (no reason given)

Because certain attention seeking people on ATS think they've accomplished something by screaming hoax, posting a bunch of links from so called "experts", and agreeing and taking other peoples opinions about how
this video is either CGI or fake in some way.

For some reason, ALOT of people who have replied are saying laws of physics doesn't allow a humans
to fly like a bird. That is simply not true. Especially in the context of which they are speaking.

Earlier I kind of jumped to conclusions about this topic regarding the video. I came out saying it was 100% real
when I had no proof of that. I later took those words back as I don't accept things blindly.

So maybe the people talking about the laws of physics not allowing something, they should put up or shut up.
Lets see some mathematical equations from top to bottom on how your "scientific proof" disproves this.

I'm not longer saying (as I said before) the video isn't real, or is real. I'm waiting.

reply to post by Turq1


Care to elaborate?

Analysis of the Human Birdwings

reply to post by Turq1

Even that is fake. At 2:04 when he first takes off the ground with that jump, it's way too fast. If that thing was capable of flying, if he jumped up, the thing he's wearing would have actually pushed down to some degree. It clearly doesn't.

I think it looks perfectly normal and real for what he is attempting.

Also..... did you even look at his website and see all the steps he did and the process and materials he acquired to make his wings?

Nice, but if you like a little something more extreme you should watch this video of basejumping.

Originally posted by dplum517
Guys ..... how about we all go to the actual site this person has made, he documented all his steps and ambitions.

Humanbirdwings.net

This all seems way too detailed and thought out to be a HOAX.

It applies the same basic principles that birds use to fly ..... how is that difficult to comprehend?

edit on 21-3-2012 by dplum517 because: (no reason given)

Oh my goodness, this is like bashing one's head against a brick wall.

This is NOT how a bird flies. Just because birds flap their wings when they take off does not mean this is possible.

To suspend a human you need an AVERAGE of 2000 N of upwards force (more if the person has any heavy equipment attached to them).

There are two ways to do this without connecting the person to something that holds them up.

1) Aerodynamic lift from an aerofoil.

2) A difference of more than 2000 N of force between the upward and downward push of the flaps.

We can discount 1 completely because the sail area is not large enough for the given speed (a couple of kilometres per hour).

For 2 we need MORE THAN 2000 N of downward force on the wings by the mechanical system. Given that this is impossible for a human to exert by flapping his arms, he needs motorised assistance.

This hoaxer says that he uses two 690g electric motors to do this, rated for model planes with 2m wingspan and 2.2kg weight, shown here:



And indeed, if you look at his equipment, he has only two small servo motors. They are about 100 times too small. The batteries needed would also have to be HUGE (about twice the size of your head). They'd be enormously expensive and very, very heavy. But they aren't even visible.

All those tiny little motors do (you can hear them buzzing away in the clip) is move those tiny rods up and down in ridiculous fashion as the guy runs along the ground.

The wings are composited on using CGI fabric modelling. The CGI that we KNOW they possessed (Maya3D).

CGI experts agree it is a hoax.

There are completely impossible shadows.

The CGI model is not identical to the (real) wings he is initially shown wearing.

The actual flight is so obviously fake when you watch it that you have to be nearly blind. It looks so ridiculous, I cannot believe we are still here arguing about it.

It is a hoax. 100% sure. Even the sources that report on it are now saying they believe it is a hoax.

The guy is refusing to return calls to the press.

The website and blog is known to be a hoax. EDIT: wired says the website was registered in August 2011, which doesn't agree with the WHOIS entry I retrieved, so we have to give the benefit of the doubt on this small point for now.

If you watch the "test flight" in video 13/14 it shows a close up of the wings on him. The camera then conveniently points down at the ground then is raised up again and the wings are different. There is a discrepancy of one big black spot. The reason? Between when the camera pans down and back up, they switch to the CGI fabric rendering which they didn't get right.

How much more evidence do you need? It seems like the only thing that would convince you it was a hoax is if the guy who made it came forward and admitted it on video. Even then I doubt you'd believe it.

Take a look at those tiny little servo motors and tell me you really believe they are big enough to lift a human into the air. If you believe that, with respect, you'll believe absolutely anything.

This is fake. Didn't read the thread, didn't watch fourteen other (probably revenue generating) videos.

It is a hoax, and not even a good one.

People don't fly like that, and they don't walk on water with special shoes

reply to post by XtraTL


I have believed a Hoax before and have most certainly retracted my belief when presented with the proper evidence.

So to say..

If you believe that, with respect, you'll believe absolutely anything.

I'll just have to respond with ..... efff off. There was no respect in that sentence...


There are large birds on this planet that weigh as much as a small human .....so it's obviously possible for a human to accomplish this.

Also ..... the way I see this device working is with his ARMS assisted by the motors .....

You completely discount the fact that he's using arm muscle.

Originally posted by dplum517
reply to post by XtraTL

 

Also ..... the way I see this device working is with his ARMS assisted by the motors .....

You completely discount the fact that he's using arm muscle.

With respect, I did not discount this. He himself says that a human arm is only able to generate about 5% of the energy needed to do this.

Do you see anything else even remotely capable of supplying the other 95%?

Originally posted by Namaste1001

Look at the "physics model" in this video. The tiny motors are connected via a gearbox and chain to the "eccentric axle" and the wings move up and down constantly.

Now look at him flapping his arms. The rods move up and down only when he moves his arms. You can also hear servo motors (not constantly rotating Turnigy Aerodrive motors as he claims to use) moving the rods as he moves his arms.

The only way to get peak efficiency out of motors is to have them rotating at full speed.

Now look at the video of the supposed flight. At one point he even stops flapping his arms and instead of dropping like a stone (which he should do at a horizontal speed of only a few km/hr) he keeps going.

There are so many holes in this whole thing that I could drive a truck through the cracks.

He's put a lot of work into stringing together a whole pile of technobabble that sounds vaguely plausible to people. One can only imagine how much his youtube account is raking in from advertising. He already has over 100 million hits. And yes, he is a youtube partner, so he is almost certainly making money from the ad impressions.

Jarno Smeets doesn't check out. Wired now has an article where they do due diligence and try to find out where he studied, etc.

www.wired.com...

As you can see, he isn't known at any of the places he claims to have been educated. His past is a fabrication, just like his flight. So the guy probably isn't even an engineer.

Three examples of hoaxes...

Man flies thru the air flapping his wings, LOL




Man runs on water with (special shoes), LOL



Building implodes itself--it just didn't want to live anymore without its brothers, LOL and cry at the same time

reply to post by dplum517


have you checked the wing loading on those large birds you speak of,comparing a bird no matter what size to human moving his arms up and down is ridiculous. Here is an experiment ,take two large kites and hold one in each arm ,face the wind and try flapping.You would be exhausted just thinking about doing it. At first it was implied that this man was flapping using human power alone,then it was revealed he had assistance from BL motors and associated speed controllers ,servos ,lipo's ,wire receivers,etc,etc. Which all adds up to weight.

Remember with great power comes great responsibility( or is that weight)
www.youtube.com...

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