'Israel Loves Iran' Initiative takes off......

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nothing to say but S&F

and thank you - so nice to see something like this

This is the kind of "Spring" that the whole world waits for.

"War, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing."

Originally posted by SinDefiant
Most likely government propaganda. Get a few more sheep to sign up then nuke the # out of them and laugh at their ignorance. Israel has some pretty bad PR here lately. How about we throw up a few hippie signs then nuke them. Like vietnam without the nukes

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I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

Nice thought but how many of them are able to use the Internet from Iran?

Didn't the Iranian government blocked the access some time ago? (Assuming it was turned back on afterwards).

Nice to see someone light a candle instead of cursing the darkness! Lets hope it makes a difference!

Originally posted by watchdog
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Ok, I am a little confused. If this is legit, then I say "GREAT JOB!!" on the part of the people trying to begin initiating contact and becoming representatives of their countries and hopefully setting the example for their leaders. BUT, here is where I am confused and a little weary of this "movement." Iranians and Israelies do not speak English. All of the "posters" I have seen are in English. I have been to the facebook page and the blog, there are some posts in Hebrew, but none of the these "I love Iranians" posters. And all of the posts and responses are in English. The Israelis speak Hebrew and the Iranians speak Persian (Farsi). These are the official languages of these two countries. Yes I know that most of our international brothers and sisters are much more savy when it comes to languages and speak English as well as it seems to be the universal language, BUT if this were me, I think I would create the posters in the native dialect of the country I was trying to initiate conversation with. It just makes better sense.

So here's my question: Why did these people create posters in English?

Here is where my logic has me at this very moment:

!) This is 100% legit and it has all been conveniently translated for us Americans OR

2) This is NOT legit and the American people are being manipulated by either our own country, another country, or a combination.

I teach about "Missions" locally, nationally, and internationally once a week. I am also a full time student and will be studying at a local University next semester pursuing a degree in Biblical and Related Languages with a focus in Hebrew. I do not tell any of you this to say "look at me," but rather to show that I am familiar with quite a few of the geographic languages associated with different regions which is part of the reason why I have taken an interest in this "movement."

I really hope my gut is wrong on this and it is 100% legitimate and not a mere manipulation tool of whoever to blindside not only Americans but also the rest of the world. But I can't discount the side of my logic that is sending up a red flag right now in regards to the promotion of this "movement" in the English language. Maybe I am just misinformed and it was originally in Farsi or Hebrew, but that it just caught on like wildfire and it's being translated into English for us. Just my two cents worth. If anyone has an explanation and is better familiar with this, please feel free to enlighten me. Knowing me, this will bug the snot out of me all day.

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edit on 20-3-2012 by watchdog because: stupid gramatical and spelling erros...it's early

Yes. Why is the message in English rather than Persian?

And why does this post not show up on google search along with my post questioning the language delivery of this message? Why scrubbed?

For you guys who think it's fishy, here's one for you.

Some responded sarcastically, with one person using an image of the Greek’s Trojan horse in Troy, apparently taken from a film, with the message “Trojans, We will never bomb your country, We love you.”

Obama Slams Iran's 'electric curtain' amid 'Israel loves Iran' internet campaign

I find it so funny they call it the 'electric curtain' alluding to the 'Iron Curtain'. Damn MSM... Personally I think this particular story stinks like propoganda- to make America look like the good guys. One mans opinion. I'm sure the Israeli government will find a way to spin this campaign as well....

good post. this is the kind of thing i would like to see happen everywhere. its starting and its awesome.

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I'm waiting to see some American members jump on this, it seems almost as relevant. The major difference being Iran is not as much of a threat to America as it is Israel... And there is a deeper, generational storyline behind the people in the middle east.

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love that :-)

I find it so funny they call it the 'electric curtain' alluding to the 'Iron Curtain'. Damn MSM... Personally I think this stinks like propoganda- to make America and Israel look like the good guys. One mans opinion.

it is propaganda - it's just a matter of deciding how we feel about it

but, what if it's exactly what it looks like?

and if instead it does come from our governments instead of ordinary citizens - how much damage can an I heart Israel/Iran campaign really do? :-)

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No harm at all

I dont think the 'Israel loves Iran' campaign is propoganda or faked by some government entity, rather the response by obama and this story about 'lifting the electric crutain' seems to take advantage of a good thing. It sounds too much like the usual rethoric of 'saving' 'helping' 'freeing' 'liberating' [INSERT NAME OF OIL RICH COUNTRY HERE]...

Love it!

Shared the living crap out of it..

Originally posted by SonOfTheLawOfOne
I've already shared this with every person I know that has an email address.

Truly inspirational and gives me hope that there is a brighter day ahead for mankind.

Thank you very much for sharing this.

~Namaste

I was just thinking about your green Lantern avatar, the green force of will, in this case the will to come together and overcome differences, and above all will for peace...Or the yellow force of fear
What to choose

Originally posted by NightGypsy
Another "campaign" that goes viral in a day. Of course it was Israel, "The good guys," that started this movement. I'm sorry if I sound pessimistic. I don't want to be, but like everything else these days, I think we'd better be leery of taking this kind of stuff at face value. I hope it is the real thing....I really do.

One thing I find interesting is that when I go to the Israel Loves Iran website, there are many people commenting on the blog who say they are Iranian. I don't know about anyone else, but as much as I'm on the internet, I don't think I've ever run into comments from people from Iran about anything. Are there any ATS members that are Iranian? I wish some of those Iranian people would come over to ATS and join our discussions over here because it would be helpful in assessing this situation if we could see it from their perspective.

Page 4 on this thread we have the beginning of a conversation.

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:-)

fair enough - Obama would have to be a half-wit to not attach himself to this somehow - it's pure gold

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This is fantastic! We need to see more of this sort of thing. Aside from promoting peace its good to see something inspiring here on ATS. Gives us a break from the doom and gloom. Great Find OP!

That are great gestures from both sides... and a great example of how the world should react on upcoming wars,that are really not justified, Its not the civilians who want war , Its all politics and economic figures with $$ in their heads, that thrive us on to oblivion

there's more to gain by good dialog then then to start wars , that only lead to hatred

peace

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Wanna know something else that bothers me? I went to numerous Israeli websites today and NONE of them are even hinting at this story. You would think if this was legit their media would have a field day with this. I am also surprised, if it's as viral as it claims to be, that the US media isn't jumping on it. Sure, a really cute baby with hiccups is worthy of media attention, but something that could set things in motion towards more diplomatic relations between 2 possibly 3 countries isn't making the news? Hmmm, I smell something fishy. So here is my next question. If this is NOT legit (trying to give it the benefit of the doubt), who benefits from this "movement"? I have about a dozen ideas off the top of my head, but I haven't connected the who, why, and how yet. I guess only time will tell if this movement is sincere or more sinister than most think.

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I really hope my gut is wrong on this and it is 100% legitimate and not a mere manipulation tool of whoever to blindside not only Americans but also the rest of the world. But I can't discount the side of my logic that is sending up a red flag right now in regards to the promotion of this "movement" in the English language. Maybe I am just misinformed and it was originally in Farsi or Hebrew, but that it just caught on like wildfire and it's being translated into English for us. Just my two cents worth. If anyone has an explanation and is better familiar with this, please feel free to enlighten me. Knowing me, this will bug the snot out of me all day.

Because English is so widely spoken, it has often been referred to as a "world language", the lingua franca of the modern era,[20] and while it is not an official language in most countries, it is currently the language most often taught as a foreign language. Some linguists believe that it is no longer the exclusive cultural property of "native English speakers", but is rather a language that is absorbing aspects of cultures worldwide as it continues to grow.[20] It is, by international treaty, the official language for aerial and maritime communications.[64] English is an official language of the United Nations and many other international organisations, including the International Olympic Committee.

English is the language most often studied as a foreign language in the European Union, by 89% of schoolchildren, ahead of French at 32%, while the perception of the usefulness of foreign languages amongst Europeans is 68% in favour of English ahead of 25% for French.[65] Among some non-English-speaking EU countries, a large percentage of the adult population claims to be able to converse in English – in particular: 85% in Sweden, 83% in Denmark, 79% in the Netherlands, 66% in Luxembourg and over 50% in Finland, Slovenia, Austria, Belgium, and Germany.[66]

Books, magazines, and newspapers written in English are available in many countries around the world, and English is the most commonly used language in the sciences[20] with Science Citation Index reporting as early as 1997 that 95% of its articles were written in English, even though only half of them came from authors in English-speaking countries.

This increasing use of the English language globally has had a large impact on many other languages, leading to language shift and even language death,[67] and to claims of linguistic imperialism.[68] English itself is now open to language shift as multiple regional varieties feed back into the language as a whole.[68]

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hopefully this will help to reduce the amount of snot being bugged out of you

:-)

if i make one......will yall post on facebook, and spread it? we can get this ball rollin, or atleast try.