Time to ban the Burqa?

Britain 2012: The moment armed police surrounded woman in veil - fearing she had a bomb - in eight-hour stand-off on quiet seaside promenade

Dressed in a Muslim veil and surrounded from all angles by armed officers, this was the astonishing scene yesterday as a tranquil seaside resort was plunged into a full-scale terror alert.

Scores of officers carrying sub-machine guns and wearing full protective uniform descended on Saltburn-by-the-Sea, near Middlesbrough, at 11am after reports that a woman had a bomb in her bag.

Daily Mail

Police coaxed her out of a small shelter near to the pier at around noon and got her to kneel on the floor.

As armed police moved in, another witness described the dramatic scenes.

She said: 'She is sitting on the bench with her hands on her head. An armed policeman is pointing a gun at her.

Daily Mail

Is it time to ban the burqa and Islamic face coverings in general?

Support for banning the burqa is high in the UK.

A recent poll put support for banning the burqa at 66%

YouGov Poll

Many people, including myself, object to Muslims covering their faces on the grounds of public safety, as the above incident demonstrates.

Burqa yes. Definitely.. I hate seeing it on our streets..


Head coverings... No.. I see nothing wrong in that

So, by this logic, you ban all puffa jackets ?

I fail to see how the woman in the picture is any more capable of concealing a bomb than anyone else in similarly baggy Western attire.

reply to post by ollncasino


I think Muslim face covering should be banned in the UK.

Recently, France overwhelmingly approved a ban on burqas in public.

In Italy, any dress which hides the face is illegal . In May 2010, it was reported that a Tunisian woman was fined €500 for this offence.

A law of similar effect was passed in the Netherlands in Jan 2012.

Belgium is also in the process of banning the Burqa.

en.wikipedia.org...

Why not the UK?

Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
I fail to see how the woman in the picture is any more capable of concealing a bomb than anyone else in similarly baggy Western attire.

She is certainly more capable of concealing her identity when she does it.

Probably one the dumbest and racist ideas i have ever heard. Why not ban baggy clothes? Or ban big sunglasses or hoods?

Those of us living in the 21st century require identification.That is your face.We are a little jittery because some Muslim supremacists are killing people around the world.
If you too want to live with us,you must deal with our laws just as we would have to deal with sharia laws if we were in the middle east.
You should do this when ordered by law enforcement quickly ,so we don't shoot you. Is that oppression? Are we descriminating against your rights of cultural individuality?. I can't tell who you are dressed that way.Our laws protect you if someone sees your face and tries to steal you away from your husband,we shoot them too. So without a functional purpose to wear a mask, it is obstructive ,what ever complications arise from your wearing one are your problems,after all you don't want to get shot do you?

Banning a piece of cloth for security reasons ?

No .

I think its time to ban idiotic people with guns who are in a position of life and death over others.

Oh and I also think its time to ban stupid people who make crank calls and waste police time for being ignorant racist morons..

While we are here advocating banning of personal garments, I think we should ban sagging pants and them godforsaken UG boots.

Not only are they ugly and disgusting, they can easily hide small bombs or thermonuclear devices!



This woman was found to not have anything except a bad attitude and some mental issues apparently. Guess that means we need to ban similar clothing for the sake of the scared pansies in the UK.

reply to post by DavidWillts

we are talking about not being able to see the face , nothing to do with baggy clothing .

Originally posted by tom.farnhill
reply to post by DavidWillts

 

we are talking about not being able to see the face , nothing to do with baggy clothing .

Ok, then what about facial hair? I can grow a thick enough beard that you could not tell who I was if I shaved immediately after you saw me with the beard.

How far does this go?

reply to post by sheepslayer247


What about minorities in general? You know how many of them look alike. Why not make them wear some sort of ID patch on their arm?
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither. But to take away someone else's liberty for your freedom is genius!"

So if she hadn't gotten a burka and someone calls police and claims that she has a bomb in her purse the police would just shruk it off and head to find discount donuts? Yeah right.

reply to post by sheepslayer247


if the face does not match the passport picture then you should be questioned and not allowed to travell .
some time ago in the uk a murderer disguised in a burka ( might i add that he was male ) escaped the country .
i also believe that if wearing a burka they should not be allowed to drive a car because it obscures the peripheral vision.

Oh dear. I dont know what kind of burgas you're referring to but obstruct vision? BS.

Also something people fail to understand.

Reports stated she was carrying a bomb in her handbag

The bomb was not strapped to her face being concealed by her choice of clothing.

So according to this articles type of logic we should ban handbags.

Originally posted by Ixtab
So according to this articles type of logic we should ban handbags.

why not? The ban on bombs seems to be working oh so great.

reply to post by PsykoOps


i was talking about peripheral vision and the burka in question is the one with a letterbox opening .
they have to turn thier heads to see anything that is each side of them and so increases the blind spot .

i will not be engaging in any more on this topic . END

No, however its reasonable that full facial concealment be grounds for being denied entry to commercial premises and public buildings (at the discretion of the organisation owning the building). The same would apply to public transport.

Thats a reasonable compromise.