New Footage 9/11 Second Tower Explosion Incredibly Clear Video From Helicopter - Where Is The Plane?

I wonder if the remains belong to any of these families

Respected Leaders and Families Launch 9/11 Truth Statement Demanding Deeper Investigation into the Events of 9/11

NEW YORK CITY, NY (Oct. 26, 2004)(Updated Sep. 11, 2009) - An alliance of 100 prominent Americans and 40 family members of those killed on 9/11 today announced the release of the 911 Truth Statement, a call for immediate inquiry into evidence that suggests high-level government officials may have deliberately allowed the September 11th attacks to occur. The Statement supports an August 31st Zogby poll that found nearly 50% of New Yorkers believe the government had foreknowledge and "consciously failed to act," with 66% wanting a new 9/11 investigation.

Focusing on twelve questions, the Statement highlights areas of incriminating evidence that were either inadequately explored or ignored by the Kean Commission, ranging from insider trading and hijacker funding to foreign government forewarnings and inactive defenses around the Pentagon. The Statement asks for four actions: an immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, Congressional hearings, media analysis, and the formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry.

The Statement's list of signatories includes notables spanning the political spectrum, from Presidential candidates Ralph Nader, Michael Badnarik, and David Cobb to Catherine Austin Fitts, a member of the first Bush administration, as well as Washington veterans like Pentagon whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg and retired CIA analyst Ray McGovern. Other signers range from peace activists like Global Exchange's Kevin Danaher to former US Ambassador and Chief of Mission to Iraq, Edward L. Peck; from environmentalists like Randy Hayes and John Robbins; from populist journalist Ronnie Dugger to renowned investigative reporter Kelly Patricia O'Meara.

The Statement also includes 43 noted authors, including New York Times #1 bestseller John Gray, as well as 18 eminent professors, historians, and theologians. Other notables include five-term Georgia Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, singers Michelle Shocked and Michael Franti, and actors Ed Asner and Mimi Kennedy.

The Statement was facilitated by 911truth.org, a leading coalition. The organization has also announced a press conference outside of Eliot Spitzer's Manhattan office (corner of Cedar and Nassau) at 2:00PM on Thursday, Oct. 28th where 9/11 family members and victim group representatives will file a formal complaint demanding the first criminal investigation of 9/11 events by the New York Attorney General.

Page Update 9/9/2009: Following is the actual statement endorsed by these signatories, as referred to in the press release above.

The Statement

We Want Real Answers About 9/11

On August 31, 2004, Zogby International, the official North American political polling agency for Reuters, released a poll that found nearly half (49.3%) of New York City residents and 41% of those in New York state believe US leaders had foreknowledge of impending 9/11 attacks and "consciously failed" to act. Of the New York City residents, 66% called for a new probe of unanswered questions by Congress or the New York Attorney General.

In connection with this news, we have assembled 100 notable Americans and 40 family members of those who died to sign this 9/11 Statement, which calls for immediate public attention to unanswered questions that suggest that people within the current administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war.

We want truthful answers to questions such as:

Why were standard operating procedures for dealing with hijacked airliners not followed that day?
Why were the extensive missile batteries and air defenses reportedly deployed around the Pentagon not activated during the attack?
Why did the Secret Service allow Bush to complete his elementary school visit, apparently unconcerned about his safety or that of the schoolchildren?
Why hasn't a single person been fired, penalized, or reprimanded for the gross incompetence we witnessed that day?
Why haven't authorities in the U.S. and abroad published the results of multiple investigations into trading that strongly suggested foreknowledge of specific details of the 9/11 attacks, resulting in tens of millions of dollars of traceable gains?
Why has Sibel Edmonds, a former FBI translator who claims to have knowledge of advance warnings, been publicly silenced with a gag order requested by Attorney General Ashcroft and granted by a Bush-appointed judge?
How could Flight 77, which reportedly hit the Pentagon, have flown back towards Washington D.C. for 40 minutes without being detected by the FAA's radar or the even superior radar possessed by the US military?
How were the FBI and CIA able to release the names and photos of the alleged hijackers within hours, as well as to visit houses, restaurants, and flight schools they were known to frequent?
What happened to the over 20 documented warnings given our government by 14 foreign intelligence agencies or heads of state?
Why did the Bush administration cover up the fact that the head of the Pakistani intelligence agency was in Washington the week of 9/11 and reportedly had $100,000 wired to Mohamed Atta, considered the ringleader of the hijackers?
Why did the 911 Commission fail to address most of the questions posed by the families of the victims, in addition to almost all of the questions posed here?
Why was Philip Zelikow chosen to be the Executive Director of the ostensibly independent 911 Commission although he had co-authored a book with Condoleezza Rice?
Those who are demanding deeper inquiry now number in the hundreds of thousands, including a former member of the first Bush administration, a retired Air Force colonel, a European parliamentarian, families of the victims, highly respected authors, investigative journalists, peace and justice leaders, former Pentagon staff, and the National Green Party.

As Americans of conscience, we ask for four things:

An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry.

Signatories

Note: All organizations are mentioned for identification purposes only. Individuals have signed this statement as an act of their own conscience, not to signify organizational endorsement.

Update 9/11/2009: Signatories removed.
Posted by Janice Matthews, current Director, 911Truth.org
Following recent media-generated controversy over Obama appointee Van Jones' signature on this Statement, he and two other signatories have requested their names be removed. That has been done.

Virginia Deane Abernethy, Ph.D., anthropologist, author, Population Politics
Ed Asner, actor, activist
Marshall Auerback, international portfolio strategist for David W. Tice & Associates, Inc.
Catherine Austin Fitts, Asst. Secretary of Housing in the first Bush administration
Keidi Obi Awadu, aka The Conscious Rasta, talk show host, LIBRadio
Michael Badnarik, Libertarian candidate for President
Byron Belitsos, publisher, Origin Press, author Planetary Democracy
Philip J. Berg, Esquire, former deputy attorney general, Pennsylvania
Medea Benjamin, activist, author, co-founder, Global Exchange and Code Pink
Dennis Bernstein, investigative reporter, radio host of KPFA's Flashpoints
Steve Bhaerman aka Swami Beyondananda, author, political comedian
Brad Blanton, Ph.D., psychotherapist, author, Radical Honesty
Saniel Bonder, spiritual teacher and author, Great Relief
Dr. Robert Bowman, USAF Lt. Col. (Rtd.), founder, Institute for Space and Security Studies
John Buchanan, author, candidate for the Republican Party Presidential nomination, 2004
Gray Brechin, Ph.D., author, environmental historian, professor, UC Berkeley
Fred Burks, presidential interpreter for Bush, Clinton, Cheney, and Gore
Norma Carr-Rufino, Ph.D., author, professor of management, San Francisco State University
Angana Chatterji, Ph.D., scholar-activist and professor of anthropology
Paul Cienfuegos, co-founder, Democracy Unlimited of Humboldt County
David Cobb, attorney, national presidential candidate, US Green Party
John Cobb, Ph.D., theologian, co-author, For the Common Good
Ernest Callenbach, founder/editor, Film Quarterly, author, Ecotopia
Kevin Danaher, Ph.D., author, speaker, co-founder, Global Exchange
Stephen Dinan, author, Radical Spirit
Ronnie Dugger, journalist/author, co-founder, Alliance for Democracy
Daniel Ellsberg, author, Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers
(Name removed by request 9/9/2009)
Richard Falk, Professor Emeritus of International Law, Princeton University
Michael Franti, musician, filmmaker, human rights worker
Janeane Garofalo, actress, comedienne, talk show host, Air America Radio
Jim Garrison, Ph.D., president, State of the World Forum, author, America as Empire
Bruce Gagnon, Chair, Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space
Ric Giardina, author, consultant, speaker, former Director of Trademarks and Brands for Intel
John Gray, Ph.D., #1 bestselling author, Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus
Stan Goff, 25-year Army Special Ops veteran, author, Full Spectrum Disorder
Melvin Goodman, senior fellow, Center for International Policy, author, former Senior Analyst, CIA, professor, National War College
Morton Goulder, Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford, and Carter
David Ray Griffin, Ph.D., theologian, author, New Pearl Harbor
Doris "Granny D" Haddock, campaign finance crusader, NH Democratic candidate for Senate
Thom Hartmann, radio host; author, Unequal Protection
Richie Havens, singer, songwriter, performer, artist
(Name removed by request 9/9/2009)
Randy Hayes, founder, Rainforest Action Network, US National Director, Direction Conservation
Richard Heinberg, author, The Party's Over, core faculty, New College of California
(Name removed by request 9/10/2009)
Rob Kall, editor, OpEdNews.com, president, Futurehealth, Inc.
Georgia Kelly, executive director, Praxis Peace Institute
Sean Kelly, Ph.D., author, professor of philosophy and religion, CA Institute of Integral Studies
John Joseph Kennedy, Democratic Write-in Presidential Candidate for 2004
Mimi Kennedy, actress, Dharma and Greg, progressive activist
Faiz Khan, M.D., Triage Emergency Physician on 9/11, Assistant Imam
David Korten, author, When Corporations Rule the World
Frances Moore Lappe, author, Diet for a Small Planet; founder, Small Planet Institute
Scott M. Legere, 25 year radio broadcaster as Scott Ledger, Tampa FL
Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor, TIKKUN Magazine, author, Healing Israel/Palestine
Michael Levine, bestselling author of Deep Cover, journalist, 25-year veteran of the DEA
Joanna Macy, Ph.D., eco-philosopher, author
Enver Masud, founder, The Wisdom Fund, author, The Truth About Islam
John McCarthy, former Special Forces Captain, president, Veterans Equal Rights Protection Advocacy

Ray McGovern, former CIA analyst, co-founder, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
Cynthia McKinney, five-term Congresswoman from Georgia
Ralph Metzner, Ph.D., author, professor, co-founder, Green Earth Foundation
Mark Crispin Miller, media critic, author, professor, New York University
Joseph W. Montaperto, New York City Fire Department
Leuren Moret, geoscientist, radiation specialist, environmental commissioner
Ralph Nader, Independent candidate for President
Craig Neal, author, co-founder, The Heartland Institute, former publisher, Utne Reader
Jeff Norman, executive director, Tour of Duty
Jenna Orkin, Esquire, World Trade Center Environmental Organization
Kelly Patricia O'Meara, investigative journalist, public relations
Michael Parenti, Ph.D., author, Superpatriotism and The Terrorism Trap
Edward L. Peck, former US Ambassador and Chief of Mission to Iraq, former Deputy Director to the White House Task Force on Terrorism
Peter Phillips, Ph.D., professor, Sonoma State University, director, Project Censored
Henri Poole, Internet pioneer, board member, Free Software Foundation
Robert Rabbin, author, speaker, creator of TruthForPresident.org
Paul H. Ray, Ph.D., sociologist, author, The Cultural Creatives
John Renesch, business futurist, author, Getting to the Better Future
John Rensenbrink, professor emeritus, Bowdoin College, co-founder, US Green Party
John Robbins, author, founder, EarthSave International
William Rodriguez, 9/11 rescue effort hero, founder, Hispanic Victims Group
Neal Rogin, Emmy-award winning writer, performer, social observer
Allen Roland, Ph.D., psychotherapist, published author and peace activist
Rosemary Radford Ruether, professor of feminist theology, Graduate Theological Union
Michael Ruppert, publisher/editor, From The Wilderness, author, Crossing the Rubicon
Chris Sanders, founder, Sanders Research Associates
Karl W. B. Schwarz, President, CEO, Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC
Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D., Professor Emeritus, author, Drugs, Oil, and War
Firefighter Kevin Shea, FDNY Hazmat Operations
Michelle Shocked, singer/songwriter, activist
Indira Singh, risk management and computer systems consultant
J. Michael Springmann, attorney, former Foreign Service Officer, US Department of State
Douglas Sturm, Ph.D., university professor emeritus, Bucknell University
Marjorie Hewit Suchocki, Ph.D., theologian, author
Chuck Turner, Boston City Council
James W. Walter Jr., venture investor, philanthropist, founder of Walden Three
Dan Whaley, E-commerce pioneer, founder of GetThere.com, acquired for $750M
Burns H. Weston, J.S.D., Professor of Law Emeritus, Director, Center for Human Rights, U-Iowa
Howard Zinn, professor, historian, author, A People's History of the United States
Family Members

Joanne Barbara, wife of FDNY Asst. Chief of Dept. Gerard Barbara
Gayle Barker, sister of William A. Karnes, WTC
Michele Bergsohn, wife of Alvin Bergsohn, Cantor Fitzgerald
Derrill Bodley, father of Deora Bodley, passenger on Flight 93
Kathryn C. Bowden, sister of Thomas H. Bowden, Jr. WTC1, 104th floor
Janet Calia, wife of Dominick Calia, Cantor Fitzgerald, WTC1
Maggie Cashman, wife of William Joseph Cashman, United Flight 93
Lynne Castrianno Galante, sister of Leonard Castrianno, 1WTC, 105th floor
Elza Chapa-McGowan, daughter of Rosemary Chapa, Pentagon
Bruce De Cell, father-in-law of Mark Petrocelli North Tower, 92nd floor
Ralph D'Esposito, father of Michael D'Esposito, WTC, 96th floor
Loisanne Diehl, Surviving Spouse, Michael D. Diehl, WTC2, 90th floor
Adina D. Eisenberg, sister of Eric Eisenberg, WTC
Jonathan M. Fisher, son of Dr. Gerald Paul "Geep" Fisher, Pentagon
Michael J. Fox, brother of Jeffrey L. Fox, Tower 2, 89th floor
Laurel A. Gay, sister of Peter A. Gay, AA Flight 11
Irene Golinsky, wife of Col. Ronald F. Golinski USA RET, Pentagon
Lori, Jerry, and Beatrice Guadagno, sister and parents of Richard Guadagno, Flight 93
Kristen Hall, daughter of fallen firefighter Thomas Kuveikis 9/11
Kurt D. Horning, father of Matthew D. Horning, WTC Tower One, 95th floor
Jennifer W. Hunt, wife of William C. Hunt, Euro Brokers
John Keating, son of Barbara Keating, passenger on AA Flight 11
L. Russell Keene II, father of Russ Keene III, WTC2, 89th floor, KBW
Peter Kousoulis, sister died in WTC
Paul & Barbara Kirwin, parents of Glenn Davis Kirwin, Cantor Fitzgerald 105th floor
Barbara Krukowski-Rastelli, mother of William E. Krukowski, NYC firefighter
Laura and Ira Lassman, parents of Nicholas C. Lassman, died in WTC, Tower One
Johnny Lee, husband of Lorraine Greene
Alicia LeGuillow, mother of Nestor A. Cintron III
Francine Levine, sister of Adam K. Ruhalter, who died on 9/11
Bob McIlvaine, father of Robert McIlvaine, WTC, Merrill Lynch
Mary McWilliams, mother of FF Martin E. McWilliams- Engine 22

Mary McWilliams, mother of FF Martin E. McWilliams- Engine 22
Daryl J. Meehan, brother of Colleen Ann Barkow, WTC 1, 105th floor
Elvira P. Murphy, wife of Patrick Murphy, WTC 1
Natalee Pecorelli, sister of Thomas Pecorelli of Flight 11
James L Perry, M.D and Patricia J. Perry, parents of John W. Perry, Esq., NYPD Officer 9/11
David Potorti, brother of James Potorti, North Tower, WTC, Marsh & McLennan
Terry Kay Rockefeller, sister of Laura Rockefeller, North Tower, WTC
Grissel Rodriguez-Valentin, wife of Benito Valentin, WTC1, 94th floor
Alissa Rosenberg-Torres, widow of Luis Eduardo Torres, post-9/11 mother, writer
Elaine Saber, mother of Scott Saber
Julie Scarpitta, mother of Michelle Scarpitta, WTC Building 2, 84th floor
Paula Shapiro, mother of Eric Eisenberg, WTC2
Elizabeth Turner, wife of Simon Turner, lost on 11th September 2001
Adele Welty, mother of Firefighter Timothy Welty, FDNY, Squad 288
Joan W. Winton, mother of David Winton, WTC, South Tower, 89th floor
David Yancey, husband of Vicki Yancey, American Airlines Flight 77
Nissa Youngren, daughter of Robert G. LeBlanc, flight 175
Late Signatories (starting toward 200 ...)

Rita M. Haley, President, National Organization for Women, New York Chapter
Immortal Technique, Harlem-based hip-hop artist with Viper Records, Revolutionary I&II
Bob Kirkconnell, served in the U.S. Air Force 27 years, reaching the rank of Master Sergeant
Dennis Kyne, former Army air medic, 18th Airborne Corps during Gulf War I, musician, author, "Support the Truth"
Paul Landis, author, "Stop Bush Now!"
Eric H. May, former Army military intelligence officer and media essayist
Charles Shaw, Editor, Newtopia Magazine, National Peace Action Coordinator, National Green Party
Peter Erlinder, professor, William Mitchell College of Law, past-President National Lawyers Guild
Daniel Robert Rezac, 2004 Vice-Presidential Write-In Candidate, former Aviator & Armor Officer, Army National Guard, B.S.B.A.
Joel Horwitz, lost beloved cousin in WTC 1
Jessica Murrow, lost husband Stephen Adams, Beverage Manager, Windows on the World, WTC 1
Ellen Mariani, lost husband Neil on Flight 175
Jean Hunt, disabled survivor of Pentagon attack
Ralph & Brigitte Sabbag, lost son Jason in WTC 2

www.911truth.org...

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Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by Danbones

 

Sigh.....

Compare the actual NTSB official document (that you linked to, and how can you see the real deal, and still maintain that is is "false"???)

Compare that to any other official NTSB Accident Report. Like this one:

www.ntsb.gov...

Find the FDR "serial number" in the one above.


This is yet another red-herring tactic of the so-called "truth movement", and indicates a complete misunderstanding of reality.

What scares me here is the thought that some people have a real deranged idea of reality, how can you possibly keep going and going on here on these 911 threads and keep doing it without loosing sleep over what you post here?

No wonder you were post banned.
Regards, iwinder

Originally posted by Drunkenparrot
Everybody knows who this guy is....

George W. was actually a fighter pilot with the Air National Guard flying supersonic F-102 interceptors in the late 60's/early seventies.

Guess what, surprise surprise surprise, unfortunately your dear hero George W. Bush Jr. is a DESERTER!!! Oops...

www.abovetopsecret.com... Well well well, weird mysteries surrounds the Bush family... Informations shows that the Bush family FINANCED Hitler's war campaign!

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
www.guardian.co.uk...
www.rense.com...

Both Bert Walker and Prescott Bush were powerful FINANCIAL SUPPORTERS of Adolf Hitler!

George W. Bush Jr. admitted he is a member of Skull and Bones , yeah, FREAKING SKULL and BONES!
George W. Bush Sr. and Jr. are allegedly among "the elite" who participate at Bohemian Grove, and on their way to Bohemian Grove they're probably sitting in their car and airplane, snorting two lines of coc aine, probably smoking Marijuana, and DRINKING and singing >>I wish that all could be California

Could have sworn this thread was about whether or not planes hit the WTC and pentagon.

reply to post by choos

Some say they did, some say they didn't. The usual thing happens after 50 pages though.
If you want to look at an alternative docu (no Alex Jones, rasping voice type stuff) try this on for size.
www.youtube.com...
ETA One needs to leave emotion out of the discussion. People claiming it is disrespectful to the victims to pursue other avenues of thought and discussion are a major red herring and something to be ignored imo.

reply to post by LightSpeedDriver


Nice link, thank you.
I am still keeping a look for that other information.

If any other clues about that come to mind, shoot me a u2u.

Thanks!
bts~

reply to post by Anunaki10


Wow! So much "prooooff!!!!" I didnt know that hearsay was all the evidence one needs. I always would enjoy watching this play out in a courtroom:

"Well I know a guy, that knows a guy, that plays golf every second Friday of the month, who overheard from one of the groundskeepers that Bush did 9/11. Oh you need real evidence? Well, isnt my word enough? I'm a government insider!"



Sorry chief, but that wont play in reality.

The rest of your post, is, well, sad to say, a great joke.

reply to post by GenRadek


Personal comments on posts from the peanut gallery, things never change here.

reply to post by ANOK


Once it gets so far off topic, with Reptilians and Bush and Nazis and such, well, its fair game now.

Originally posted by GenRadek
reply to post by ANOK

 

Once it gets so far off topic, with Reptilians and Bush and Nazis and such, well, its fair game now.

No, its not.
I would hope that is not revelations of your intentions.

reply to post by burntheships

Debunkers. Someone full of bunk or bunkum? Yeah, my new definition. I'd rather be a "truther"

Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
Someone full of bunk or bunkum? Yeah, my new definition.

Perfect!

I might just have to make a collage of all of these quotes

DonDahler: I didnt see a plane go in, that just exploded.



There are way too many to be a concidence.

I see ProudBird hasn't responded to my last two posts. I'll respond then. My whole point is NOT the "casing" of flights; before or after.

I don't mean to single out anyone but I can't help but notice ProudBird's posts.
Proudbird obviously knows a lot about aviation and airplanes. I don't doubt that.
But amongst the details of airplane and airline operations, there lurks BS.

For example:

Originally posted by Beldy
I'm wondering how you know this for sure? How could these people who I assume did not work for these airlines get flight load information?

Originally posted by ProudBird
This is, I admit, an assumption.

Originally posted by ProudBird
No......AFTER the fact.....AFTER 9/11 attacks, in the research it was learned (by the FBI, and other agencies) of the activities of the hijackers, and their ability to "case" flights, in preparation.

So it's your "assumption;" however, you seem to indicate knowledge of the FBI's (and other agencies) knowledge of the activities of the hijackers' ability to "case" flights in "preparation."

Which one is it?

I got more

Originally posted by GenRadek
Wow! So much "prooooff!!!!"

That's right 'GenRadek', you better believe that Bush is a Reptilian shapeshifter, Cathy' O'Brien reportedly claim she witnessed Bush Sr. shapeshift into a Reptilian being in front her telling her he is from another planet, and Arizona Wilder confirm what Cathy O'Brien says, Arizona Wilder also came forward to tell about her experience and "Insider knowledge" about the Reptilians and the Illuminati. and Zulu Shaman Credo Mutwa explains that the Reptilians "hypnotized" the African politicians and took over their bodies, and it is speculated that the Reptilians also have taken over the American politicians' bodies and other famous people, and these Reptilian shapeshifters have been caught on film for example "accidentally" exposing their "Lizard" eyes. North- and South- American Indians call these Reptilian beings "Snake Brothers".

Guess what, surprise surprise surprise, unfortunately your dear hero George W. Bush Jr. is not a patriot at all, he is a pathetic DESERTER!!! What a downer for you...

Well well well, weird mysteries surrounds the Bush family... Informations shows that the Bush family FINANCED Hitler's war campaign! And that's FACT, 'GenRadek', and please tell us to us all here what you feel about that IT WAS THE BUSH FAMILY WHO FINANCED HITLER's WAR CAMPAIN, HUH? Do you also SUPPORT Hitler's war campaign, 'GenRadek'?

www.guardian.co.uk...
www.rense.com...

Both Bert Walker and Prescott Bush were powerful FINANCIAL SUPPORTERS of Adolf Hitler!

Another thing 'GenRadek', George W. Bush Jr. ADMITTED he is a member of Skull and Bones , yeah, YOUR freaking pathetic hero George W. Bush Jr. is a FREAKING SKULL and BONES!!! Beside, he also attend at Bohemian Grove as well.

I didnt know that hearsay was all the evidence one needs.

It's not just hearsay, look at the presented evidence in my posts, and you better get used to that George W. Bush even ADMITTED on TV for all to see that he is a member of freaking Skull and Bones...

I always would enjoy watching this play out in a courtroom:

"Well I know a guy, that knows a guy, that plays golf every second Friday of the month, who overheard from one of the groundskeepers that Bush did 9/11. Oh you need real evidence? Well, isnt my word enough? I'm a government insider!"

The rest of your post, is, well, sad to say, a great joke.

Nope, it's not a joke at all, and 'GenRadek' you do know that you expose yourself as a pathetic George W. Bush supporter by saying this nonsense of yours, right? Like i said, it is NOT just hearsay, Stanley Hilton mentioned there are documents that shows that George W. Bush ordered the attacks on the Twin Towers, Stanley Hilton is reportedly hiding the copy of these documents somewhere were Shadow Government agents can't find them. The Shadow Government agents came and harassed and threatened Stanley Hilton and his employees, and the Shadow Government agents confiscated most of the original documents, but as Stanley Hilton said, the copies are hidden somewhere where the Shadow Government agents can't find them.

NORAD had the chance to scramble fighter jets to shoot down the "Hijacked" flights, but as i previously mentioned, Charles Lewis confirm that it was the "highest level" of the White House who ordered the "Stand Down" of NORAD.

Here in this speech on TV George W. Bush said something like >>I was sitting outside the class room, ready to go in, and i saw an airplane hit the Tower on TV, the TV was obviously on and i, i used to fly myself, and there was one terrible pilot, and i said it must have been a horrible accident, but I was whisked off there, I didn’t have much time to think about it>In fact, I’m hungry. I want a hamburger.

Originally posted by Danbones
it has been observed that the "smoking gun" type witnesses usually gits it...
gary webb, the DC madam,,,brietbart possibly....
or people who actualy can do stuff that is anti agenda
like paul wellstone( who cheney threatened and then he had his propellor fly off), or the Kennedies

Yeah, Marilyn Monroe was found murdered in her home, she reportedly threatened to hold a press conference about what the Kennedys told her about their plans to kill Fidel Castro and JFK's visit to a military base to inspect crashed UFO and alien bodies www.abovetopsecret.com... JFK made a speech about Secret Societies, and Secret memo shows JFK demanded UFO files 10 days before death and Philip Corso revealed that JFK's effort to gain presidential control over secret files on UFO and alien visitation could have been one of the reasons for the assassination of the Kennedys. It is speculated that the reasons for the assassination of JFK is that JFK wanted to change CIA, he wanted to change the economy, he wanted to change how the Banks rule the money, JFK also wanted to get the US troops out of Vietnam as quickly as possible, JFK's "policy" was against the 'power elite's policy, JFK also reportedly wanted to release the secret files on UFOs and Extraterrestrial visitation to the public, so the other officials then reportedly ordered the assassination of JFK and Bobby Kennedy.

You mentioned about Peul Wellstone. Did Cheney threaten Paul Wellstone? www.fromthewilderness.com... Something does not add up about the socalled "plane crash accident"

Was Paul Wellstone Murdered?

Nov. 1, 2002, 15:00 PST (FTW) -- The air crash deaths of Sen. Paul Wellstone, his wife, daughter, three staff members and two pilots at approximately 10:25 a.m. on Oct. 25 in Eveleth, Minn. has given rise to the widespread belief -- shared by at least two members of the House of Representatives who spoke on condition of anonymity -- that the crash was a murder.

Perhaps no member of the Senate ranked higher on the Bush Administration's enemies list than Minnesota Democrat Paul Wellstone. And the enmity goes back years to when Bush's father was president. The Nov. 4 issue of Time recounts an encounter between Wellstone and the elder Bush after which he referred to Wellstone as "this chicken#." And it is known that there has been at least one prior reported attempt on Wellstone's life.

In the months before his death Wellstone had voted against several key Bush agendas including Homeland Security, the Iraqi use of force resolution and many of Bush's judicial nominees. In a Senate controlled 50-49 by the Democrats, Wellstone was perhaps the single one-man obstacle to Bush's fervent and stated desire to secure passage of the Homeland Security measure prior to a U.S. invasion of Iraq.

There are many questions, but the circumstances of the crash, as known thus far, do not lead to conclusions of pilot error, mechanical failure or bad weather. What does that leave? It leaves us with three dead Democratic senatorial candidates (Litton - 1976, Carnahan - 2000, and Wellstone - 2002) who all died in small private airplanes just days before critical elections.

Many experienced internet researchers, especially post-9-11, understand the importance of immediately securing local press reports and eyewitness statements to pivotal events in the moments after they occur. Several keen observers were able to transcribe the following live dialogue between an on-the-scene reporter and CNN's Wolf Blizter.

Reporter: There is no evidence that weather had anything to do with the crash.

Blizter: But the plane was flying into some sort of ice storm, was it not?

Reporter: There is no evidence that the weather had anything to do with the crash.

According to these observers CNN immediately cut away from the on-scene reporter who was not heard from again. Other watchers noted a crawl along the bottom of the screen which, they said, ran only one time, "Weather not a factor in crash."

Yet the stories currently posted on the CNN site still suggest that the crash was caused by bad weather and icing.

Paul Wellstone had been a target of an assassin once before. He was strident opponent of Plan Colombia, a U.S. military aid package which involves massive aerial spraying of lands believed to be growing coc aine and the use of private military contractors employed by companies like DynCorp. Wellstone had traveled to Colombia to evaluate the program.

Shortly after his arrival on Dec. 1, 2000, as reported by a number of news sources including the AP, a bomb was found along his route from the airport. Although the State Department later downplayed the incident, the general opinion was, and remains, that as an outspoken critic of CIA and covert operations, Wellstone had indeed been a target.

David Icke said >>Presidents are not elected by ballot, they are selected by blood

Originally posted by Anunaki10

Originally posted by GenRadek
Wow! So much "prooooff!!!!"

That's right 'GenRadek', you better believe that Bush is a Reptilian shapeshifter, Cathy' O'Brien reportedly claim she witnessed Bush Sr. shapeshift into a Reptilian being in front her telling her he is from another planet, and Arizona Wilder confirm what Cathy O'Brien says, Arizona Wilder also came forward to tell about her experience and "Insider knowledge" about the Reptilians and the Illuminati. and Zulu Shaman Credo Mutwa explains that the Reptilians "hypnotized" the African politicians and took over their bodies, and it is speculated that the Reptilians also have taken over the American politicians' bodies and other famous people, and these Reptilian shapeshifters have been caught on film for example "accidentally" exposing their "Lizard" eyes. North- and South- American Indians call these Reptilian beings "Snake Brothers".

wait what? reptiles? are you trolling or are you actually really serious? or are you using it as some sort of metaphor?

p.s. even if you are serious, reptiles have nothing to do with whether or not planes crashed on 9/11 or not.