Senior citizen torture to near death in the LA County jail for selling raw milk

Originally posted by defcon5
reply to post by marg6043

 

The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

I don't have an issue with raw milk, though I personally think its gambling with your health.
What I do have an issue with is con-artists making a profit off selling untruths about anything.
I don't care if the topic is Chamtrails, 911, Raw Milk, whatever...

People who take advantage of others by giving out bad product, false information, misleading propaganda, you name it, make me sick. The internet has become a haven for many of these shysters.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

Originally posted by defcon5

The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Originally posted by Dragoon01
You must not know any LEO's who actually deal with people.

Actually I know A LOT of LEO's. Three of whom I have known for well over 20 years. Two are Sheriff Department Road Deputies and training officers. I know a very large number of DOC officers through my friend that I mention above. I also was friends with him when he went through the police academy, and we used to all go out clubbing together after they were done with school and their internships every weekend night, so you can add about 10 more local police officers to that list. On top of that, the office manager at my work is a retired State Prosecutor from the State Attorneys Office.

Out of that list the only one that knew about the “Sovereign” movement, without hearing about it through me, was the State Prosecutor.

When the topic came up between me and that person, I was basically told that it was BS, don't try it. It was explained to me that its bogus internet law, and that it does not stand up in court. They were aware of it from peoples attempts to use “Sovereignty” for the purpose of tax evasion. I was straight out told that they had prosecuted a number of those cases personally, and that they only ever win if the person is listed as being legally insane. I was also told that it spreads on the internet as being true because it takes them so many years to “catch up with, and prosecute” those involved with it. This leads people to think that it actually works, but its simply not true. There is TONS of case law that disprove both the “Sovereignty” movement, and your ability commit “Tax Evasion”.

Many of the biggest proponents of both “tax evasion” and “Sovereignty” here on ATS seem to have fallen silent over the years, and I have to wonder if they are actually sitting behind bars somewhere today as we speak. I guess that it would be pretty hard for them to print retractions or warnings to us from prison.

I mean, seriously think here folks...
One of the biggest “proofs” that the “Sovereign” movement uses is that the USA is incorporated under the UCC, thereby making you a “corporate asset” and allowing them to supposedly enact justice on you, right?

Well... The truth is that the UCC has only existed since 1952, and in case no one in the sovereign movement noticed it, we've been enacting justice on folks since back when the US was nothing more then a Colony...

Originally posted by Dragoon01
He did not sell tainted products.
He did not force anyone to pay for his services.

Yes, he did both of those things, which is why he was raided, shut down, and imprisoned.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

Though raw milk is highly-regulated or even banned in much of the western world, members of the British royal family consume the purportedly unsafe dairy product. If raw milk is safe enough for Queen Elizabeth II, then why is it inaccessible for so many of her constituents?

Raw milk was the only form of milk the world knew until pasteurization was developed in the late 1890′s to eliminate harmful bacteria. Pasteurization can prevent diseases tuberculosis and scarlet fever; it can eliminate salmonella and e. coli. But with the good can also come the bad, according to raw milk advocates. Much of the natural health properties contained in milk can be eliminated in the pasteurization process. In fact, most people suffering from lactose intolerance wouldn’t have a problem consuming raw milk.

But, even though raw milk can have a higher nutritional value, it can still spread disease and contain harmful bacteria. Not so fast, claim raw milk proponents – with proper humane and hygienic treatment, the risk of disease in cows is minimal

Queen Elizabeth drinks her milk raw. She reportedly thinks so highly of unpasteurized milk that, when her grandsons Princes William and Harry were students at Eton, she instructed herdsman Adrian Tomlinson to bottle up raw milk from her Windsor herd and deliver it to them at school.

with proper humane and hygienic treatment, the risk of disease in cows is minimal

that waiver is meaningless without proper wording and compliance with applicable state law.

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Danbones

 

Goats cheese is becoming quite popular here, haven't tried it yet though.

Do remember trying to milk a goat once, was difficult and she kept staring at me like goats do, was awkward for us both

Originally posted by Danbones
reply to post by Dragoon01

 

as you will find if you go to the "PROOF" links posted by Chad:
www.thecompletepatient.com...
(excellent research skills there Chad I will say that...I mean that honestly right or wrong)

the ALLEGED charge is his bail was obtained illegally because the sale of raw milk is illegal
all of this has yet to be proved


i didn't see sovreign citizen amoungest the charges

they show NO evidence of tainted milk, or sick consumers in the CHARGE sheet pdf he posted as proof the man was quilty.
the man is out on BAIL, this only happens pre trial
the charge sheet only shows he is ACCUSED of violating burrocraptic regulations

one would expect jurisprudence to prevail before punishment and not after

that is the increasing trend that has us pro raw milk folks fuming the most

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Originally posted by OldCorp
If there was any real law enforcement left in this country, those making the comments would be hunted down and prosecuted; but they're too busy running guns, seizing raw milk from the Amish, and feeling up grandma at the airport.

"Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information, and religions destroy spirituality." ~ Michael Ellner