Muslim Jihadists Vowing to “Eradicate Christianity”

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


Not a bad theory.

Do you think the Jesuits are a force to be reckoned with ?

Just as a side note,

Noam Chomsky was asked what we could do to prevent terrorism.

His answer?

Stop participating in it.

~Tenth

How sad that there always have to be murderous extremists and fanaticals-i have met so many "regular" Muslim people and most of them are very kind and friendly.Always decent and polite,helpful.Lovely people. Ive met "average" Christians,on the other hand,that dont seem to have even the milk of human kindness,so to speak.BUT at least they and also the Christian fanaticals ive had the misfortune to know,have NEVER spoken of,or apparently even considered,the annihilation of people following other religions and non-believers. This type of thing is why there will be a lot of support for invading Iran,for instance.Moderate "average" Muslim people worldwide should speak out most strongly against murderous factions like these.And they should speak out now,on a global scale,while there is yet time. For those who are not,and dont like Christians,or organised religion,dont for one moment think you are exempt-something like this goes down in your region,being an atheist/satanist/buddhist wont save you.If you are not a Muslim,its gonna be your number coming up.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Our country is headed toward a Theocracy, just like Iran (more like the Vatican, actually). With all the Catholics in government here lately, I would think ATSers could see it, but strangely, many seem to support it...

1 - Secular laws in the USA keep anyone from gaining a theocracy foothold in the USA.
2 - Show us all where all the Catholics who have been elected are attempting a theocracy takeover.
3 - Where, exactly, is this rise in radical Catholic government elected leaders??
4 - Considering how few Catholics actually listen to the Vatican, I'm sure you have nothing to fret over.

Religious affiliation in the US Senate

Roman Catholics are represented by 26% of the Senate for 25.9% of the population. (1.00×)

Religious affiliations in the 111th US Congress
Catholic = 30.1%. Population = 25.9%
Religious affiliations in the 112th US Congress
Catholic = 29.2%. Population = 23.9%

Both the Catholic population of the country AND the Catholic representation in Congress went down.

US Presidential Religious Affiliations
46 presidents. 2 of them Catholics. That's rounded to 2% of US POTUS' being Catholic.
Religious affiliation of US govs (may 2005)
Catholic = 44%. US Populaton = 24.5%

Is it any wonder why people in the thousands are turning away from religions, is it because they are causing more deaths than diseases and famine ?????????

TextI haven't read anywhere where you [Or the other known apologists] have come out and condemned the actions of a few representing Islam but rather point fingers elsewhere and completely ignore their activities.

reply to post by SLAYER69


Bingo , I notice when these events are brought to light in this forum instead of our Islamic brothers denouncing the murderous vile actions of their fellow Muslims they divert , sidestep , point fingers and justify the actions instead of condemning them .

In defense of our fellow Muslims here at ATS there are a few that attack them personally but for the most part it is usually the story line that is the focus of debate and not the individual. I have said this more than once , if Islam wants ay credibility with regards to being called a religion of peace then they have to step up to the plate and denounce all actions like this. If they wee truly serious about it the would compose and all Islamic army to fight these unjust wars in the name of Jihad . Of course this is a pipe dream but nice thought . Maybe Christians should create an army for their defense , that would go over like the crusades .

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Christianity has killed more people than anything else combined.

Prove it. I double dog dare ya. Good luck with that.

- Genghis Khan killed over 2 million people. Nothing to do with Christianity.

- Hitler killed 6 million in the camps and another 20 million as the result of his war which had nothing to do with Christianity.

- Napoleonic Wars, having nothing to do with Christianity, killed up to 6.5 million people.
- 600,000 died during the American Civil war .. having nothing to do with Christianity.
- 2 million people died in Vietnam ... having nothing to do with Christianity.
- 2.5 million people died in the Killing Fields .. having nothing to do with Christianity.
- 1.25 million people were enslaved by the muslim barbary pirates .. many died.
- 3 million people died building the great wall of China. ... having nothing to do with Christianity.
- Mao killed 700,000 .. having nothing to do with Christianity.
- Lenin killed 8 million people .. having nothing to do with Christianity.
- First world war ... 15 million people died .. having nothing to do with pushing Christianity.
- Russian Civil war - 9 million people died .. having nothing to do with pushing Christianity.
- Stalin killed 20 million people .. having nothing to do with pushing Christianity.
- Second world war - 66 million died .. having nothing to do with pushing Christianity.
- Tibet - millions dead. Exact figures unknown. Nothing to do with pushing Christianity.
- The Galls and Romans killed millions in the Ptolemic wars .. having nothing to do with pushing Christianity
- The Muslims killed millions across North Africa, Spain, and the Middle East pushing Islam.
- ETC ETC ETC

mega death tolls

reply to post by FlyersFan


Religion it itself is the single largest cause of human death in history. Nobody needs a source to know that's true. 3000 years of religious prosecution and death.

These aren't just large events either, I'm talking about using religion as a motivation for killing, whether that be individuals OR large groups of people.

Killing in the name of God is the most used reason for violence in history.

~Tenth

Originally posted by ollncasino
You appear to be unaware that Islam conquored Southern Europe and Spain

Many people claim that Islam spread and conquered by the sword and this is true, because the fact of the matter is that all the battles from any military faction, force or group in the ancient world used this same method whether it be on the basis of doing good or evil, so for me this question is only uttered by the most foolish and Ignorant, but what truly needs to be asked is what happened after the battles and after the swords were laid to rest, when Muslims conquered foreign lands they unified and assimilated with the people of that land and shared there culture and knowledge, they spread there ideas as well as taking and learning from the native people, this can be seen now our modern world, if we look at every region of the world that has been conquered by Islam, we see the native people are still the majority.

Persia, turkey,North Africa, Andalusia, Indonesia, Malaysia Eastern Europe, Asia.

These are all the countries that Islam has Influenced in one form or another and if we look at them today, we see that the native people before Islam and after Islam are the same and have not changed, only there way of life and beliefs have changed but even still, Islam never dictated or forced there beliefs and ideas upon the people, as we see from Andalusia, the jews that were living in Spain were more than happy to welcome the Muslims, they were allowed to practice there religion freely and openly, in fact the Jews till today claim that after the Islam's conquering of the Iberian Peninsula, it become there Golden age and the best Era and time for any Jew to be alive.

Now let us use this same method and analyse the the regions of the world that have been Conquered and influenced by the Christian's, let us look at North America, South America, Australia, South Africa and the Middle East.

The way of conquering of the sword by Muslims is starkly different than the Christian's who instead of trying to harmonise with the natives of the land, they seek out to colonize, steal and hoard the riches, pillage, and to completely eradicate and ethnically cleanse native populace to the brink of extinction , they dictate and force there beliefs and way of life on the natives, if you are American, you only need to learn your own history and you will see that what I have said is the truth, you only need to look at Australia and witness the racism that Aboriginals go through even now in our modern time or the genocide of south Africa still going for many decades perpetrated by the white majority, I let you all be the judge.

reply to post by FlyersFan


When I say "Catholics in government" I don't mean the religion of Senators, I mean the bishops and Catholic organizations sticking their noses in government and fighting the health care laws, etc. I mean the concerted efforrt to integrate religious doctrine into our supposedly secular government. I mean the organized religious movement to oppress women and make this country a true "Christian Nation".

I don't care what religion the politicians are. I am talking about religion's INFLUENCE on our politics and government.

reply to post by tothetenthpower



No offense but, first you state Christianity then in your reply you switch gears to "Religion" in General. I'll agree more people have died from the defense of, expansion of, and persecution in the name of "Religion" than any other single cause in history except maybe the [black death] which was also the single largest cause of Native Americans [North, Central and South] near extermination after 1492.

Singling out Christianity is no better than those who Generalize about Islam imho.


No?

reply to post by SLAYER69


Which is why I switched to Religion.

FlyersFan made me realize I was sort of doing the same thing I was giving the OP crap for. Therefore change in rhetoric.

~Tenth

Originally posted by tothetenthpower

Your kidding right? The Pope use to lend his armies to nations for the right coin in order to carry out the Crusades.

This map shows the Muslim conquests of Christian and Hindu lands and the temporary recovery of parts of the Holy land in the 12th century by Christians.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by AnonymousCitizen

 

As far as the U.S. military. Yes, the majority is Christian. But the difference is that they are fighting in spite of their religion, not because of it. Personally, I see both as wrong, but very different.

And the people we are so bombing so happen to be muslim and they are fighting and defending themselves all the while they are muslims.

When those people drop bombs from the sky they know it is from a CHRISTIAN NATION (USA), so Christianity is killing the people over their. That is what those muslims see, Christians from America killing more of their people.

So Seabag they are justified in saying that they want to 'eradicate Christianity' because it is those Christians who are killing their people over their.

edit on 013131p://3America/ChicagoFri, 09 Mar 2012 13:44:03 -0600 by THE_PROFESSIONAL because: (no reason given)

Do you really belive that Muslims are so stupied that they think America is attacking them because they are Muslim and America is Christian?? talk about spiralling into insanity.

Originally posted by rebellender
reply to post by Jameela

 

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
when is the last time you were in a normal believing Muslim country
no such thing as a Normal believing Muslim. Close your lap top the teacher just walked in

Stop lying.
I have many normal muslim friends. You trying to say all muslim people are evil?

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

So you mean Catholics standing up for their First Amendment rights somehow equates to the USA becoming a theocracy ... Vatican style. Okay .... BTW ... does the air get a little thin on your mountaintop?

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
FlyersFan made me realize I was sort of doing the same thing I was giving the OP crap for. Therefore change in rhetoric.

And yet no applause from the mod-gods. Oh well ... (just teasing ya)

Seriously though .. since your change of wording .. I semi-agree with you. Mass murder in the name of God has been going on for thousands of years. Be it Jewish or Christian or Muslim. I don't think it's possible to say that one religion has killed more than another. I don't think religion has killed 'the most' people ... but it has killed a hell of a lot of people.

That's why I like the secular laws in the USA. The First Amendment for example. It promises people that they can freely practice their faith and their outreaches while holding onto their faith-identity, and not be harrassed by the government or other people ... and yet it protects us from mega-religious people taking over the country and forcing us all to say their prayers and use their version of world history (noahs ark, garden of eden) etc etc ...

reply to post by FlyersFan


Yeah I agree, I mean it's hard to figure out exactly if " Inthe name of God" is the cause of more death than not, IMO probably not, in comparison to greed and power.

And yes secular laws are awesome.

~Tenth

I hope they self destruct while doing it and then we will be rid of an even bigger threat then Christianity.

Originally posted by Dr Cosma

Originally posted by rebellender
reply to post by Jameela

 

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
when is the last time you were in a normal believing Muslim country
no such thing as a Normal believing Muslim. Close your lap top the teacher just walked in

Stop lying.
I have many normal muslim friends. You trying to say all muslim people are evil?

quite an accusation!!!!
you should read the thread before CALLING OUT people, this being said,
there are muslims and there are non-muslims there are no (normal muslims) as this would be an attempt to profile or stereo-type muslims as normal or abnormal and in so doing would be considered Racist.