Charges of Racism for Chanting USA…In America!

I for one do not believe it was racist at all. USA is a country not a race. I have a hard time believing that an entire audience chanting USA had racist undertones. It simply does not make sense. Especially in the Southwest US where Hispanics have been there longer than whites.


This seems more of a race baiting thread. More of the Media making a mountain out of a molehill. It's like they are trying to start race riots in this country so they can enact more draconian laws.

Don't be fooled by this. It's a false flag so to speak.

Soldiers from WW1 and WW2 must be rolling in their graves. What the hell has happened to my beloved country?

Reply to kaylaluv:

If you go to an school in England at a sporting event the kids start chanting U.K...U.K...U.K. You are an American, are the kids chanting U.K being racist? If you just moved permanently to Turkey can turkish kids fly their flag or chant the countries name in front of you or would this be racist? Not to mention the fact that these kids see the same chant on t.v at ball games etc.

Do you really want to take peoples rights away?

Are you a dictator?

reply to post by seabag


Hey..if you are fine with believing unsourced rumors...more power to you.


But I just heard on the radio that the students chanting USA were throwing green cards at the hispanic players as well. Just thought you would want to know. I don't remember the radio channel or the show it was on....but I definitely heard it.

Originally posted by Malcher
Reply to kaylaluv:

If you go to an school in England at a sporting event the kids start chanting U.K...U.K...U.K. You are an American, are the kids chanting U.K being racist? If you just moved permanently to Turkey can turkish kids fly their flag or chant the countries name in front of you or would this be racist? Not to mention the fact that these kids see the same chant on t.v at ball games etc.

Do you really want to take peoples rights away?

Are you a dictator?

edit on 8-3-2012 by Malcher because: (no reason given)

Totally different when it's two different countries playing each other. Chanting USA to Hispanic-Americans is like saying you are not part of this country - but we are.

reply to post by kaylaluv

Chanting USA to Hispanic-Americans is like saying you are not part of this country - but we are.

It absolutely baffles me that people don't get this.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by seabag

 

Hey..if you are fine with believing unsourced rumors...more power to you.


But I just heard on the radio that the students chanting USA were throwing green cards at the hispanic players as well. Just thought you would want to know. I don't remember the radio channel or the show it was on....but I definitely heard it.

Speaking of being ‘butt hurt’….

I guess you missed the part where I said:

when I made the OP I did so without that information and I still question the outrage over the chants, so whether the subsequent info is accurate or not it doesn’t make a difference to me; I still think it’s ridiculous to apologize for people chanting USA in the USA!

That’s alright - We disagree on this topic.

Nice attempt at attacking the source because it didn’t fit your agenda though!

Only Americans have a habit of chanting USA. No one from any other country yells out their country's name, when they win. What's the deal? It's retarded anyway.

reply to post by seabag


Which source did I attack?

Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by Malcher
Reply to kaylaluv:

If you go to an school in England at a sporting event the kids start chanting U.K...U.K...U.K. You are an American, are the kids chanting U.K being racist? If you just moved permanently to Turkey can turkish kids fly their flag or chant the countries name in front of you or would this be racist? Not to mention the fact that these kids see the same chant on t.v at ball games etc.

Do you really want to take peoples rights away?

Are you a dictator?

edit on 8-3-2012 by Malcher because: (no reason given)

Totally different when it's two different countries playing each other. Chanting USA to Hispanic-Americans is like saying you are not part of this country - but we are.

In the questions i asked you i specifically said "If you just moved permanently to Turkey..."

I was giving the same exact circumstances so you cannot say you didnt understand just that you cannot give an answer because it would go against your argument.

What happens now, is chanting U.S.A at high schools racist? Never mind they see that at pro baseball games and other sporting events.

This is why the mass media news should only be meant for entertainment....All about the Benjamins.

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by technical difficulties

 

Sorry to break it to you, but hurling the word ignorant at people is an insult.... I may disagree with some people's opinions here, but I don't spout off and start name calling like some people have a habit of doing. Maybe you should chill out?

dictionary.reference.com...
ig·no·rant
   [ig-ner-uhnt] Show IPA

adjective
1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.

2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.

3. uninformed; unaware.

4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.

Example: You're ignorant about the stereotype of hispanics all being illegal immigrants (and apparantly the word ignorant, as well).

Anyways, this is getting off topic. How about instead of complaining about me saying you're ignorant, you could try proving you're not? Because you haven't been doing a good job of the latter.

Originally posted by daaskapital
Only Americans have a habit of chanting USA. No one from any other country yells out their country's name, when they win. What's the deal? It's retarded anyway.

Of course they do. When you go to a soccer game and see a giant flag of the country is this different? Sing songs, chants etc.

When i go into the bathroom at the local bar and someone writes "Viva Peru" on the wall should i cry and call the police?

Originally posted by Malcher

Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by Malcher
Reply to kaylaluv:

If you go to an school in England at a sporting event the kids start chanting U.K...U.K...U.K. You are an American, are the kids chanting U.K being racist? If you just moved permanently to Turkey can turkish kids fly their flag or chant the countries name in front of you or would this be racist? Not to mention the fact that these kids see the same chant on t.v at ball games etc.

Do you really want to take peoples rights away?

Are you a dictator?

edit on 8-3-2012 by Malcher because: (no reason given)

Totally different when it's two different countries playing each other. Chanting USA to Hispanic-Americans is like saying you are not part of this country - but we are.

In the questions i asked you i specifically said "If you just moved permanently to Turkey..."

I was giving the same exact circumstances so you cannot say you didnt understand just that you cannot give an answer because it would go against your argument.

What happens now, is chanting U.S.A at high schools racist? Never mind they see that at pro baseball games and other sporting events.

This is why the mass media news should only be meant for entertainment....All about the Benjamins.

Let's just say, hypothetically, that I am right about the history of bad blood and racist slurs between these two schools. IF it was a fact that there had been previous confrontations where the white kids told the Hispanic-Americans to go back to Mexico where they belonged, and that they needed to stay out of the USA, which belonged to the whites... would you agree that chanting USA would be an insult to the Hispanic team?

reply to post by kaylaluv


Since you are so sensitive to racism in America, maybe you'd care to weigh in on why we have a racist in the White House?

I'm sure all of you racially sensitive people can shed some light on why its OK that our POTUS has racist connections throughout his history, right?

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by nunya13
reply to post by seabag

 

Again.......

This IS America. They can chant ANYTHING they want. Their is NO law that says OTHERWISE.

Regardless if you,them or anyone doesn't like it.

Seriously,this what America,has become.

You're right, this is America. You can say anything you want and it is legal, but no one was arrested so I'm not sure what your point was about that. The principle just apologized. He apologized because the students on the other team were made to feel like second class citizens when the other students chanted 'USA' suggesting they are disloyal to this country. They werent simply celebrating (what is there to overtly celebrate about the US during high school game?) and the principle must've known that. God forbid he try to make the other students feel welcome by apologizing. We cant have that nonsense now, can we?

In fact, another poster proved my point when he/she responded to a comment of mine and suggested the students, because they are Hispanic, must be loyal to Mexico and not the US.

Looking at a group of people who are of Hispanic descent and assuming they are either 1) not citizens and/or 2) not loyal to America is racist.

And your picture can easily be turned around. People simple label others as "too PC" when confronted with claims about racism as a way to stiffle the debate. Some even go to the trouble to visually illustrate it, apparently.

Originally posted by seabag
; I still think it’s ridiculous to apologize for people chanting USA in the USA!

They didnt apologize because of what they were chanting. They apologized because of the reason they were doing it....to degrade the other students.

Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by Malcher

Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by Malcher
Reply to kaylaluv:

If you go to an school in England at a sporting event the kids start chanting U.K...U.K...U.K. You are an American, are the kids chanting U.K being racist? If you just moved permanently to Turkey can turkish kids fly their flag or chant the countries name in front of you or would this be racist? Not to mention the fact that these kids see the same chant on t.v at ball games etc.

Do you really want to take peoples rights away?

Are you a dictator?

edit on 8-3-2012 by Malcher because: (no reason given)

Totally different when it's two different countries playing each other. Chanting USA to Hispanic-Americans is like saying you are not part of this country - but we are.

In the questions i asked you i specifically said "If you just moved permanently to Turkey..."

I was giving the same exact circumstances so you cannot say you didnt understand just that you cannot give an answer because it would go against your argument.

What happens now, is chanting U.S.A at high schools racist? Never mind they see that at pro baseball games and other sporting events.

This is why the mass media news should only be meant for entertainment....All about the Benjamins.

Let's just say, hypothetically, that I am right about the history of bad blood and racist slurs between these two schools. IF it was a fact that there had been previous confrontations where the white kids told the Hispanic-Americans to go back to Mexico where they belonged, and that they needed to stay out of the USA, which belonged to the whites... would you agree that chanting USA would be an insult to the Hispanic team?

Would i agree that chanting the initials of the country both team members live in as being racist?

Should i look to ban Mexican flags (or the flag from any country) because they may insult someone?

Honestly i dont understand your questions.

If i went to live in Mexico would i be insulted if the school kids would chant - Mexico...Mexico...Mexico or should i expect it? You, on the other hand, would demand that they stop. Do you think your demand is fair or normal?

Personally i would expect that to happen at least at some point. Chanting U.S.A has become very common at sporting events and these kids see those sporting events so they are just doing what they see on t.v.

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by kaylaluv

 

Since you are so sensitive to racism in America, maybe you'd care to weigh in on why we have a racist in the White House?

I'm sure all of you racially sensitive people can shed some light on why its OK that our POTUS has racist connections throughout his history, right?

edit on 8-3-2012 by seabag because: (no reason given)

Well, this is a little off-topic for this thread, but - he's no more racist than Ron Paul.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

One can always find "connections" when one wants to bash the opposing candidate. I never joined in on the "Ron Paul is a Racist" bandwagon, by the way. Nor do I see any racist activity by Obama.

I can't wait for the day when people realise there is no USA.
It's all just invisible walls, made by man.

reply to post by TKDRL


Amen brother, I don't that I could have said it better myself.

Not a one-liner