What is your philopsophy/religion?

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I do this, because no one ever did it for me. No one was ever honest and true to me,They shrunk, and conformed to the majority. So many people feel certain ways behind closed doors, but out in the open they put on this facade just to look better and then feel bad about their habits or beliefs at the end of day. Why do so many do that when the reality is so many people feel that way behind closed doors? But I digress...

I kinda know how that feels like.

reply to post by apsalmist

I believe we are created. I believe we are created in our Creators image and likeness by our Creators Grace through our Creators Spirit. I believe our Creator loves us. Deep, passionate, purposeful, sublime, tender, faithful and true is our Creators love to us.

I believe we are the purpose of creation. I believe we represent the image of the creator's vision of what it wanted to be if there was a something in which to live, such as a universe. I believe the creator had a lust for life which exceeded its desire to be what it was before it caused the universe to come into existence.

Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by apsalmist

 

I believe we are created. I believe we are created in our Creators image and likeness by our Creators Grace through our Creators Spirit. I believe our Creator loves us. Deep, passionate, purposeful, sublime, tender, faithful and true is our Creators love to us.

I believe we are the purpose of creation. I believe we represent the image of the creator's vision of what it wanted to be if there was a something in which to live, such as a universe. I believe the creator had a lust for life which exceeded its desire to be what it was before it caused the universe to come into existence.

Do you think the lust of life is caused by our attachments???

reply to post by QuantumSeeker

Do you think the lust of life is caused by our attachments???

I'm talking about before the universe existed, there was a desire for life, a real life in a physical universe where the creator would rather cease to be what it was before it caused creation, knowing it would never be that thing it was before this creation event.

Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by QuantumSeeker

 

Do you think the lust of life is caused by our attachments???

I'm talking about before the universe existed, there was a desire for life, a real life in a physical universe where the creator would rather cease to be what it was before it caused creation, knowing it would never be that thing it was before this creation event.

edit on 11-3-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)

I mean perhaps in the previous creation(if it exists) after it ended,it is incomplete due to our attachments(assuming we existed in that creation)????So G-d created a new one due to our "wish" for something to be fulfilled??

I was raised in a Christian family. Both my mother and father came from Christian families.

Some of us were Baptist, Methodist, Church of God. All had the same basic beliefs and principals.

I truly feel blessed to have lived in my family. There was always love, acceptance, peace. A wonderful way to grow up.

In high school I decided to become a missionary. Got accepted to a private college, majored in theology. Also had a scholarship to study Baptist origins at the Bodlean library during my Oxford semester.

I don't know what happened, but as time continued I began to doubt.

How to explain it? If you pressed me to answer, I would agree there is a higher being, God, if you will.

I don't think God is truly understandable at this time.

Sometimes I see the good religion does.... And that includes ALL religions. The people who genuinely care for others and actively help those in need.

Then I see the flip side of the coin and all the hateful ignorance performed in the name of religion. And all religion shares these problems.
Frankly I kinda gave up. How to tell the difference?

OP, this is a marvelous thread and I've enjoyed reading the answers.

reply to post by QuantumSeeker

I'm looking at it from what I imagine to be the most ancient Greek philosophical way, which is probably a little too foreign to people with a cosmology influenced by the current major western religions. The "creator" does not currently exist, having metamorphosed into the universe itself, which of course includes us, who retain the inherent desire to live, that is the fulfillment of the purpose of creation.
The creator was not actually a person in the normal sense of the word. Everything that exists was created, where the creator was not, seeing how it never really existed in the ordinary sense (there not previously being a universe in which to exist).

reply to post by jmdewey60


Like the order emerging from chaos by a thought to wish to exist? The Creator lives his "life" and sees through us?

reply to post by jmdewey60


With a secret heart You prepared my making place.
Away from everything
separate and lone
my making place was founded.
A universe You created before me.
Patterns were made
and set in fields of space with time.
Unity of purpose became the foundation.
Angels watched and wondered.
In this their part was glorying.
In this You worked with the Word alone
that none other might know claim upon me.

reply to post by smyleegrl


Another one, similar to me in a way

The message I believe all religions are trying to relay is unity, love, respect for those around you, prayer for those who harm/deceive you etc

However, the thing that makes me run away from religion with my head spinning is the loopy ways people take the messages and try to be a messenger.

I COULD be a part of an organized religion, if I so chose because I do believe in SOMETHING, a lot of things actually , but I wouldn't because with everything else in the world there are always people that ruin it.

So until humanity relinquishes it's hateful, judgmental tendencies, I remain "Spiritual"

Also, I appreciate the comment on the thread It is my first one hehe

reply to post by GreenEyedVixen

Like the order emerging from chaos by a thought to wish to exist? The Creator lives his "life" and sees through us?

I understand this is a way to describe it but I am choosing a variation to where the chaos is brought to bear by that thought as a tool, so that even the residual chaos left over from creation is itself created, and is not something which existed before the creation event. Perfect order would be that dead lump of mass before it was brought to life by what would appear to an onlooker (if such a thing was possible) as chaos. What we have today includes the dying away chaos that was a necessary thing but a powerful thing beyond our ability to fully appreciate, which can not just cease to exist in a moment.

The purpose of this cosmology I am working on is to remove the conflict between different concepts of creation which are contradictory and do not support a loving God. I had to study the thinking of atheists for a long time to see where all these conflicts are and to then try to remove them and to make it acceptable to human modes of understanding. Obviously a work in progress and I just got a new book in the mail today that I hope will help, Creation and Chaos in the Primeval Era and the Eschaton: Religio-Historical Study of Genesis 1 and Revelation 12, by Hermann Gunkel.

reply to post by apsalmist

Now I all-of-a-sudden understand your user name.
Very interesting.

Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by GreenEyedVixen

 

Like the order emerging from chaos by a thought to wish to exist? The Creator lives his "life" and sees through us?

I understand this is a way to describe it but I am choosing a variation to where the chaos is brought to bear by that thought as a tool, so that even the residual chaos left over from creation is itself created, and is not something which existed before the creation event. Perfect order would be that dead lump of mass before it was brought to life by what would appear to an onlooker (if such a thing was possible) as chaos. What we have today includes the dying away chaos that was a necessary thing but a powerful thing beyond our ability to fully appreciate, which can not just cease to exist in a moment.

The purpose of this cosmology I am working on is to remove the conflict between different concepts of creation which are contradictory and do not support a loving God. I had to study the thinking of atheists for a long time to see where all these conflicts are and to then try to remove them and to make it acceptable to human modes of understanding. Obviously a work in progress and I just got a new book in the mail today that I hope will help, Creation and Chaos in the Primeval Era and the Eschaton: Religio-Historical Study of Genesis 1 and Revelation 12, by Hermann Gunkel.

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What an incredible project you are taking on! It may just open the door for many skeptical atheists to finally begin to enter a more Spiritual state of being. I love this!

And you are probably reading more information on this as I type, which is marvelous

I envy your studies as they've birthed a few great philosophies, thank you so much for blessing my thread with your presence, as well as everyone else has blessed it.

Thank you so much for your opinions guys, I cannot stress my gratefulness enough. These are all so beautiful, the personal stories and the thoughts and philosophies that have come out of them, the variations in thinking.

Just, beautiful.

Interesting thread, worth reviving anew simply for the fact that people's religions/philosophies change constantly.

I don't have the same views I had 2 years ago, let alone 2 days ago. I keep finding new valid input for my reality and keep processing it based on the new input, take notes, and deduce a new reality that makes more and more sense, or finally feels right after a long meditation session, but hopefully both!

I was raised "hippie", so no religion, just alot of creativity, research and respect. Dad was schooled by jesuits, but he didn't choose to raise me that way, but I do access his teachings when I need that info.

Now you already mention we aren't supposed to argue but I know I'm going to offend some, and I sincerely apologize. I think all Abraham religions are flawed in logic, and the actions against humanity they have caused are insane. To think an infallable god would ask you to kill your child is nuts, even if parts of this teaching is supposed to be a metaphor? Sick sick metaphor. It is very logical to think the opposite and understand we created God, because if God was infallable how could it create a flawed thing like humans?

I think we created God, and we created it into everything, every single part of our reality is God. It is why you can be in the "Holy Spirit" believing in almost any God; Christian, Hindu, Islam, Judaism... any and all of them. I think all the different holy scriptures are beautiful writings, and have many wonderfully compassionate and harmonious ideas worth knowing. I just don't think they should be blindly followed, that's as silly as thinking pigs fly without actual proof. Its still ok to be silly, just own up to your silliness and enjoy it.

I feel the only real insult to God is when we aren't actively trying to be who we want to be (not following our passion). And I don't mean a selfish goal oriented career ideal, but one that is creative, productive and enlightening! Basing your life on treating others fairly, doing your fair share to help sustain the resources you require to live, but don't possess the skills for. To share what you excell at with others, and be proud and strong and thankful! I hope to have made a life for myself, standing strong and aware and accomplished, by the time I face my maker in the eye, not on my belly praying for forgiveness. God is me and knows all my blessings and mistakes already. No need to waste tons of time atoning for things I was forgiven for a long time ago.

I believe in many of the Taoist ideals that there is no black or white, but many, many shades of grey. You create something beautiful and it will likely attract something ugly to contest it, likewise a dark creation brings about the light. Having a grey approach seems the safest, People argue about this view without realizing you can always create a perfect balance of both, it's just bit tricky to achieve this.

One of my very best friends from highschool who recently passed was a very devout Christian, and he chose it himself with very little pressure from his family. Well he was also very into researching the translations of the ancient Hebrew the bible was written in, and loved to tell me how things were mistranslated. He still understood his religion was flawed, but used what was beautiful about it, and interpretted the rest as stories. I miss him and his teachings, and could very much use his help now.

Every religion has some profound and beautiful messages in them, they are great moral stories mixed with bits of ancient mysticism to keep interest. They should not be knocked, because they bring you closer to your spiritual destination, and God, I, the human race and the universe loves you for simply trying. This is the definition of the Holy Spirit we all seek.

I bless my food, I bless my journeys, I bless medicines and healing tools. When I finish meditation I thank Father Spirit for looking over us and guiding us, I bless Brilliant Source for bringing us light and connecting us all, and Mother Earth for nourishing and protecting us, then I bless the 4 corners and pray for those who need help. Intent is a religion and philosophy in itself, and I believe in it alot.

Now ask me this whole question over again in a month and I may give you a completely different answer. This is one of the tougher questions.

reply to post by Aliquandro


Interesting take on everything I don't personally believe the Bible is the word of God, as it is written by man, and has been translated countless times. I believe the word of God is in your heart, as the Creator speaks to us through nature, and through our intuition. The God portrayed in the Bible is indeed flawed because the concept of that God was created by humans, and we are all flawed in our natural state.

This is exactly why I made this thread, because I myself, have a change in belief about everyday. It remains the same general idea, but I always find some aspect that fits like another missing puzzle piece. I wanted people to come here and post whatever they believe in, even if it's the Flying Spaghetti Monster

And I hoped for them to return here as their beliefs change over time, and post what the new tweaks in their beliefs are.

So, if yours does change, feel free to come back and post the changes. I wish to have all changes here, as I said they greatly interest me.

Thank you for sharing!

reply to post by GreenEyedVixen


Sharing is caring right?
I never was a flying spaghetti type of guy, simply because it's so terribly offensive and dismissing to devout followers of scripture. These folks still have some wonderful things to teach me and they won't be helpful if I'm rude to them.

The more I look into quantum theory the more this world seems to make sense. But I understand it has its place as well as nature and spirituality, and they can slightly overlap (?). Quantum seems to overlap more than others to me, and I theorize that might be because it's the only science that approaches the bigger picture, and gives you some better tools to connect all the dots. There are a LOT of dots!! As creators, we humans are driven to connect these dots and make them into "things" or objects we can describe with more detail and interest. Then we feel accomplished and put these things in boxes and forget that they are just dots.

So in the 8-10 hrs it took me to sleep and reawaken I've gone from Taoist to Dot-ism, my belief systems are supposed to be worn loosely, like urban clothing, and I don't care if i get my shoes dirty.

Great thread BTW, S+F for you GEV.

Religion ? None of the above
Philosophy ? Life happens

Actions ? Act on that I can act upon.

Life before death above all else. I only have one, why not enjoy it.

I haven't contemplated my philosophy in quite awhile. I am not a religious person. My parents weren't either. My grandparents were though. Christian.

I'd consider myself spiritual. But I believe in science and evolution. In fact, I don't really see how evolution is not considered evidence of life always in a state of trying to perfect itself. That's really amazing, I think anyway. I think it shows an intelligence at levels we can't even begin to imagine. (Well unless your into that kind of study.) When I was younger I spent quite a lot of time studying alternative "new age" belief systems. Which wasn't really new at all, just a mish mash of a lot of different belief systems and ideas. I still enjoy all those myths and techniques and incorporate them in my world rather unconsciously. As I grew older, I began to realize we are all connected but seem to feel very disconnected from one another. I am naturally tolerant and rather laid back about religion and belief systems. I remember a time in my youth when I railed against the established order - until I realized I was being stupid. We can't change our nature, and we instinctively feel there is more - we are always searching for more. I do not consider myself an atheist, but I don't really think I'm agnostic either. I'm just a wanderer. Not all who wander are lost. Some of us just prefer to travel.

Originally posted by theubermensch
I worship Dagon the Assyro-Babylonian fertility god.

i believe you.