hypocritical america supports terrorism

Could somebody please explain to me why is it that america supports terror against its allies? For years now visa's have been granted to members of the I.R.A.'s political wing sinn fein including their leader Jerry Adams (also the commanding officer of the I.R.A.). This is a group who bombed and murdered members of the security forces, politicians, innocent civilians as well as commercial targets ( city centres across N. Ireland and england, mortoring Heathrow airport during the first gulf war, as well as trying to blow up the goverment...). This is an organisation with close ties to terrorist organisations across the world (remember Columbia?) , and especially palestinian groups. In the 1980's when Gaddaffi was public enemy number one to the americans, who was providing the I.R.A. with tons of weapons and explosives , millions in dollars aswell as training and technical expertise . And yet their leaders are greated with open arms by the american goverment. Yes there is a ceasefire at the moment but why isn't your goverment not putting more pressure on them to give up their weapons? Why when there wasn't any ceasefire where Noraid allowed to raise millions and millions of dollars for an organisation that was attacking their biggest ally? (Not to mention the failure to extrodiate convicted killers and prison escapees back to the U.K.)
Don't know about you but this seems a little hypocritical to me . Sorry no it doesn't it seems blatant , unadulterated HYPOCRACY.

welcome to ATS/BTS

this should be in War On Terrorism

Welcome to the world my friend. Who do you think funded and trained Osama Bin Ladin et al? America. Where did Saddam get his WMD'S? America. It's the same time and time again. We (America) have "friends" one day and the next...they are our enemies. But back to your post...yes I agree, the American government is very hypocritical all the time.

Hey U.K. wizard how do i get it into the war on terrorism section?

Hmmm, let me get this straight.....your all pissy because visa's are being issued to member's of the I.R.A.'s Sinn Fein political wing? Other than throwing around your anger at the US, how about provide some 'hard', factual evidences to back up your claims and angry rhetoric, maybe?

This might help?

Support not as much as you claim?
The IRA finally started decommissioning arms after the attacks of September 11, 2001 resulted in increased United States pressure to move the process on and the evaporation of much of the support previously enjoyed in the U.S.

I.R.A./Sinn Fein Support decreasing.




seekerof

I think a mod has to do it? Could be wrong.....even though I wasn't the one who you asked lol.

ATS Main Page

Click Above: for the ATS main page

on that page you'll see all the forum's

You can sign in on ATS and BTS using the same user name and password

Terrorism Forum

You can also use the link above to go directly to the Terrorism Forum

Hope that helped

edit: If you wanted to move this thread into the Terrorism Forum I'd just start a new thread in there, rather than getting it moved (it's too much effort)

[Edited on 20-9-2004 by UK Wizard]

Please don't create a new thread if you started on in the wrong forum. Just make a suggestion/complaint and a moderator or admin will move it.

This is now in a more appropriate forum, WoT. See, I made it look easy!

Seekerof what more proof do you need Jerry Adams, Martin Magginees, Gerry kelly all invited to saint patricks day in the white house. Did Noraid not exist? The IRA has decommisioned minimal arms (and not due to 9/11), infact was actually sending guns from Florida a few years ago (the guy caught was called Connor Claxon I think).

Originally posted by highash
Seekerof what more proof do you need Jerry Adams, Martin Magginees, Gerry kelly all invited to saint patricks day in the white house. Did Noraid not exist? The IRA has decommisioned minimal arms (and not due to 9/11), infact was actually sending guns from Florida a few years ago (the guy caught was called Connor Claxon I think).

Seekerof needs Seekerof proof, the kind that exists only in his mind and favors only the things he says and believes!

Originally posted by Seekerof
I.R.A./Sinn Fein Support decreasing.

seekerof

Just a wild stab in the dark, would the support of the IRA be decreasing because they have laid down arms and are no longer blowing up the British?

but hes right, the IRA was largely funded by ignorant, rich Americans. They same people who are now probably crying out against Al Qaeda. A classic example of hypocrisy.

[edit on 20-9-2004 by Flyer]

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American international policy is starting to bite back. more and more countries are breaking off relationships with the US.

I will say this again: A terrorist is a soldier without a recognized mandate.

Mai-Lai masacre was carried out by "soldiers" as they were acting on orders of the US. Anyone with any decency and ethics will call them terrorists regardless of where their orders come from.

Originally posted by highash
Could somebody please explain to me why is it that america supports terror against its allies? For years now visa's have been granted to members of the I.R.A.'s political wing sinn fein including their leader Jerry Adams (also the commanding officer of the I.R.A.). This is a group who bombed and murdered members of the security forces, politicians, innocent civilians as well as commercial targets ( city centres across N. Ireland and england, mortoring Heathrow airport during the first gulf war, as well as trying to blow up the goverment...). This is an organisation with close ties to terrorist organisations across the world (remember Columbia?) , and especially palestinian groups. In the 1980's when Gaddaffi was public enemy number one to the americans, who was providing the I.R.A. with tons of weapons and explosives , millions in dollars aswell as training and technical expertise . And yet their leaders are greated with open arms by the american goverment. Yes there is a ceasefire at the moment but why isn't your goverment not putting more pressure on them to give up their weapons? Why when there wasn't any ceasefire where Noraid allowed to raise millions and millions of dollars for an organisation that was attacking their biggest ally? (Not to mention the failure to extrodiate convicted killers and prison escapees back to the U.K.)
Don't know about you but this seems a little hypocritical to me . Sorry no it doesn't it seems blatant , unadulterated HYPOCRACY.

Agree with you - it is indeed hypocritical. What you may not realize, however, is that 90% of the US population has no idea what you're talking about lol

Americans are very, very ill-informed. In addition, our present day culture is all about "me"; concern for global good doesn't come into play with most.

Originally posted by bushblows

Agree with you - it is indeed hypocritical. What you may not realize, however, is that 90% of the US population has no idea what you're talking about lol

Americans are very, very ill-informed. In addition, our present day culture is all about "me"; concern for global good doesn't come into play with most.











Yes I appreciate that americans can be ignorant of the facts and indeed very insular in their views (as in sod everyone else), but the U.K. is their biggest ally so surely the american public can see the double standards??
(how would you feel if your best friend was always bending you over and sticking it up your ass??)

[edit on 21-9-2004 by highash]