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Originally posted by Lastone
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Aqualung2012
It's as if the particles in the "measuring device" are aware themselves of being in and of a "measuring device" and are transmitting that intent it to the particles being fired...
No.
There is no awareness. It is in the nature of the device to cause the collapse.
Let's say I a have a balloon full of some unknown gas and I want to find out what that gas is. I can do this in a couple of ways (all of which will affect the balloon) but let's be dramatic. I use a hollow needle attached to a vacuum device to pierce the balloon and extract some of the gas to analyze it. I have collapsed the balloon and found that it contained oxygen. Yeah!
In checking your tire pressure you change it. In using a kitchen thermometer you change the temperature of what it is you are cooking. The observer causes the change by virtue of performing the observation because the observation cannot be made without doing so.
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edit on 3/3/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)
You are correct. The only think that is missing is the ... why ?
And that is the big question.
Originally posted by Amanda5
As Casual Teacher I always take resources with me in case there is no lesson plan. I have taken short clips of Cymatic demonstrations to show to Students in Maths and Science classes - they love it.
The first time I showed a clip the Students were both shocked and spellbound - I would absolutely love to include more topics such as Cymatics in general school curriculum.
Lets hope the school curriculum will change soon - so that Students will stay inspired instead of becoming bored.
Much Peace...
Originally posted by intrptr
That stuff at 12:30 into OP video reminds me of looking at a sun. The rotating "wings" of material are harmonic with the sound induced by the experimenter. In a real sun the sound produced by the noise of the suns activity might lend itself to an aid in rotation? That what we understand about gravity might be a combination of noise and mass that produces an accretion disk like the solar system?
Then that bit at the very end reminded me of a spinal column in living organisms.
Was that a fluid medium that resonated into "vertebrae" in a spinal column?
Originally posted by VekTorVik
I don't know what is more interesting, watching wave patterns in a sheet of metal or reading everyones interpretation. How do we get from patterns of vibrating sand to Buddha?
I have been fascinated by this type of thing for awhile, but that is about as far as it goes for me. Lazily browsing YouTube videos.
This is a cool video, but note...never once do they mention Buddha, Ghandi, or a spiritual awakening...
Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
Correct again. E= MC2 No math is needed to know this's wrong.
you are right in one way, though i doubt it was intentional.
e=mc^2 IS incorrect. einstein never wrote that equation.
the real equation is e^2=m^2c^4+p^2c^2
e=mc^2 is only correct if you assume the object has no momentum.
Originally posted by zarp3333
I really had to pull over eventhough I'm running late. So many aspects of this thread are bizzare.
Please no disrespect intended but I feel I'm seeing an empathic face of Phage I never knew to exist.
I have visions of the huge blocks of granite at the pyramids being moved into place in semi-liquid form using tones as the source of energy. No rational explanation. Just a sudden flash.
It's as if for a moment, suddenly no outside party affiliations, preconceptions, etc. simply pure intellectual discourse for the beauty of sharing ideas. I'm at a loss.
reply to post by VekTorVik
This is a cool video, but note...never once do they mention Buddha, Ghandi, or a spiritual awakening...
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by 1littlewolf
Yet if we could 'see' electromagnetic radiation interference patterns there's no reason that they couldn't form just as intricate patterns, if not more so....
Electromagnetic waves do form interference patterns. That's not what I was talking about. I was talking about the comparison of mechanical waves to electromagnetic waves. Mechanical waves do not exhibit the wave/particle duality shown in the video.
Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
The device simply records the experiment and converts it into a specific format so that it can be observed by scientists. Humans are still the only ones doing the observing.
i've thought about this before, but it doesn't seem to make sense. what if the information was recorded, but not viewed by anyone, just deleted? in your theory, this wouldn't cause the wave function to collapse. this would also require the particles to "know" the future.
Originally posted by Wolfenz
I wonder if that Symbol on the front cover of his Book the ( V Shape like a Wine Glass) is a Part of a Pattern
Hmm Just Maybe