WikiLeaks begins publishing 5 million emails from STRATFOR

Can well all, like, get back to sifting through the emails and posting interesting finds here? Rather than arguing semantics, I just sifted through 28 pages to find only a handful of interesting copy-pastes from stratfor emails!

Idea: go make a thread titled " Stratfor hack/WL deceit, for or against?"
Go debate it elsewhere this I thought was meant to be an informative OP.

Originally posted by asala
No real point there, Just sifting through some of the info that's coming up from the storm of this all, It was a different take so again something to consider,

Too make any of our own judgements we need to look at all 4 corners of what's being thrown out there, and that means looking at some of the crappy bits too and being able to discard what is nonsense and what is not,

Yes, but yourself have already mentioned way back that Anon and Wkileaks have come together. You could speculate and say 'at least' in this case. What's the difference say, in the leaked e-mails from Essex university over the need to 'sexup' the global/AGW warming information? are the Essex e-mails more sophisticated or just as crappy? no heads rolled there. tonight, we are being trolled to death, the most important thing is some comeback from those most affected by the release of these e-mails plus. So far, there is nothing except no comment from STRATFOR, and a post from Nicholas Dawes in his own online paper. The news conference was packed with journalists, as the video shows, as if? I didn't see many texting for the latest revelations and trying to be ahead, or putting up anything useful in the way of questions. Let's see what tomorrow brings in the tabloids...no guessing there, STRATFOR will be a huge con, and an embarrassment, (with a small e) for government/s and their own intelligence agencies. Does that sound familiar?

Originally posted by unknown known
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

I always appreciate your take on issues. You give a different perspective and I continuously leave the post having another opinion that is very valid. Do you think Assanage has any real power or is he a puppet?

I think he is just a media whore. I support the idea of a site for whistle blowers to use and always have, but this is something entirely different to me. Wikileaks could be a good thing.

Anonymous is just a bunch of hackers playing games. Mostly kids I imagine.

Since I believe we should have the Right to Privacy, I believe in it for everyone not just those who agree with me. Why people can't see if it's OK in this case, it's equally OK to invade their private communications also is beyond me.

Pots meet Kettles a lot these days.

reply to post by AlanQaida

Well so far from the main bulk of emails its the Jennifer Richmond and George Friedman ones that are worth reading,

other than that from what i can see there not been to much that you can get your teeth in to,

Still reading through

ahh double posts

reply to post by asala


we're only 0.00428% through the emails...

Click here for more information.

reply to post by SkyMuerte


Jazes... calm down... you're not the king of the thread...

If you want a thread that does that, start your own...

reply to post by captainnotsoobvious


Yep and it feels like i have been reading all day long lol, My house work today has had to come 2nd

reply to post by asala


same here... I tweeted this stuff like mad all day... sure to have lost a few followers, but also gained quite a few as well...

this is big news even if it's a mixed bag...

reply to post by arbiture


Woodward and Bernstein might think your stance is a bit screwy.

We are an ever changing world, and the press is changing too. Wikileaks is a press group, they haven't stolen anything.

Originally posted by Blaine91555

Originally posted by unknown known
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

I always appreciate your take on issues. You give a different perspective and I continuously leave the post having another opinion that is very valid. Do you think Assanage has any real power or is he a puppet?

I think he is just a media whore. I support the idea of a site for whistle blowers to use and always have, but this is something entirely different to me. Wikileaks could be a good thing.

Anonymous is just a bunch of hackers playing games. Mostly kids I imagine.

Since I believe we should have the Right to Privacy, I believe in it for everyone not just those who agree with me. Why people can't see if it's OK in this case, it's equally OK to invade their private communications also is beyond me.

Pots meet Kettles a lot these days.

"Anonymous is just a bunch of hackers playing games".

There is no way of telling, and even what you say there is applicable to any intelligence agency or anything else. the add on tag "Mostly kids" is pure opinion. What is real, is that current electronic communication technology is ultimately in the public domain. Internet, infranet makes no difference, there can be no right to private conversation on the internet or infranet, and probably since the internet was born. Next technology please.

Originally posted by asala
reply to post by AlanQaida

 

Well so far from the main bulk of emails its the Jennifer Richmond and George Friedman ones that are worth reading,

other than that from what i can see there not been to much that you can get your teeth in to,

Still reading through

Indeed. I have read a few from the site, I did chuckle at the "informative" mails such as the intelligence terminology and abbreviations etc, I think it go's to show a certain.. Human side to them!
Well best get back to reading so I can hopefully contribute something to this lovely mega thread

Does anyone have any news of the "big announcement" from Anonymous that was supposed to happen "in a few" like last night? I haven't seen anything new, and most everyone pretty much stopped talking about it....

reply to post by Wookiep


From what i have been told it will be in a few hours, But im sure there will be a bucket load trying to stop it after today's shenanigans,

Originally posted by SkyMuerte
I am getting a FREAKING HEADACHE!

People would you please stop your worthless banter and try to focus this thread on the actual emails that are needed to be seen the most. It is stunning that some of you #$%heads would rather sit here and argue than go read the emails and find something of importance to post here.

!!!YOU ARE THE PROBLEM NOT THE SOLUTION!!! It took me 28 pages of reading to say this and now rather than defend my statement here against a bunch of worthless couch potato "sheeple" (hate that word) I am going to go get my hands on some emails and actually read them. Give me an hour or thirty and I may have found a damning email or two to post.

Meanwhile look in the mirror and realize that every second you spend here arguing semantics with some pimply faced nerd you could possibly find a email that proves something.

Pardon me I have to go reconsider my membership here and read some emails. Ciao.

edit on 27-2-2012 by SkyMuerte because: speeeeling

edit on 27-2-2012 by SkyMuerte because: speeeeling

Maybe you shudda read some of the the e-mails first and made your critique with some nuts and bolts, OMG I fell for it, more trolling.

I had lunch yesterday in Houston with former-Federal Judge Sam Kent (the first Federal Judge found guilty of serious crimes in the US) and he told me why he thinks he was prosecuted. For those who haven't followed this, he was found guilty on perjury & sexual misconduct. Yes, he slept with those two women, but it was consensual. Actually, they were old affairs and long over. What Sam said was that "isn't is strange that the Justice Department begins sniffing around for dirt to throw at me just weeks after I ruled a heavy case against Halliburton. Then a small set of affairs turn into an untrue situation and then spun up into an unprecedented case against a Federal Judge." Of course, I told him he was nuts to rule anything against Halliburton. I also told him that this sounds like a John Grisham plotline.

I guess Cheney got a bit upset about Halliburton getting ruled on lol!

reply to post by Wookiep


Im hanging out too.
lucky i didnt stay awake waiting..

reply to post by AlanQaida


Some others bits that have been highlighted in todays events that you may agree that are a little interesting,

Revealed so far is the following:

—Former Goldman Sachs managing director Shea Morenz to start a hedge fund called StratCap. The idea, which Morenz came up with, was that the company would “trade in a range of geopolitical instruments, particularly government bonds, currencies and the like.” Morenz invested more than $4 million and joined Stratfor’s board of directors. They put together an offshore share structure that went “as far as South Africa” Friedman said the fund will be useful and they would be “working on mock portfolios and trades.” And, the fund was to launch in 2012.

—Bhopal activists and The Yes Men were being spied on by the company. In response to activism against Dow Chemical for their role in the 1984 gas disaster in Bhopal, India (which victims have not been properly compensated for yet), the activists were tracked. The company kept track of the Yes Men’s speaking engagements along with mentions of Bhopal activism in the media.

—Coca Cola contracted Stratfor to spy on PETA. The organization, which engages in animal rights activism, was monitored. The soda company feared protests from PETA during the Vancouver Olympics. And so, they sent a list of questions to Stratfor and sought answers. Fred Burton, a former State Department official, responded in one email, “The FBI has a classified investigation on PETA operatives. I’ll see what I can uncover.”

—Vice President Fred Burton, former State Department official, has clear ties to Israel. As Al-Akhbar English’s Yazan al-Saadi details Burton was ”a special agent with the US Diplomatic Security Service and was appointed by Washington to investigate the assassination of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, the assassination of Rabbi Meir Kahane, and a number of bomb plots by al-Qaeda prior to 9/11.” In the emails, his “pro-Israeli sentiments and links to Israeli military and intelligence sectors” are apparent as he argues the Gaza Freedom Flotilla was “funded by questionable sources.” There’s a level of racism in the company toward Palestinians or, in general, Arabs, not to mention the fact that the organization appears to be privy to information on the Mossad’s covert program to assassinate Iranian physicists.

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