The Free World Charter - A potential solution after the meltdown

Originally posted by jlm912
Understood. You are an inspiration to me in that light. Thank you.

Have you not faith in yourself to be motivated to act for the greater good and give time in order to take it to spend with your loved ones?

Thank you for your kind words. Personally, I would carry on in my work as it is a true passion of mine however I cannot say that for everyone. I reward my staff based on their level of contribution to create drive and progress. If I were to reward my staff equally then there is no purpose in the reward. And without the reward there is no incentive for people to work that bit harder to achieve a great end product. If everyone were treated exactly the same I would have to work to the lowest common denominator as that would be the baseline of my company's productivity.

I'll try and summarise it in one point: Why should a person work 40-50 hours a week for no greater benefit than someone who does very little? I wish it were as simple as passion but in my experience people see contribution as just a great a level of inequality as money.

I do agree with you all. I've also looked at why I work and what it means. I am a supervisor in a local government and see some truly inspiring people. They work for one of 3 different reasons:

1. Money
2. They take pride and love the work they do
3. Stepping stone in their career

I honestly think most people would continue to work if there was no money... in fact it would have to happen, but you would have a major shift of who did what. People who are stuck in a job they hate could easily move to another job. If there were jobs that couldn't be filled, we develop the technology to handle that. Where money wont be a limiting factor to innovation, you figure out ways to do the things people hate using machinery and innovation.

At one time, money was an enabler in a world where things were scarce (like fighting wars etc)... No money limits what we can do as a society. We have been educated to believe what our teachers tell us so we fit well into the corporatist world that is before us and nothing about true critical thinking.

One challenge is the idea of change itself. By nature we are creatures of habit.

The way I figure, what do I have to lose... the banks owns everything I have anyways, and what I do own, the government can takeaway when it pleases.

I'll try and summarise it in one point: Why should a person work 40-50 hours a week for no greater benefit than someone who does very little? I wish it were as simple as passion but in my experience people see contribution as just a great a level of inequality as money.

I think that we currently are having that issue

Nothing would be built , no food produced no services rendered if no one has to work.
While I may agree with the ideals espoused here it is certainly not practical in any way.
How would labor be fairly distributed?
Who would decide who has to do what?
It's a socialist concept with no method of implementation.
We can certainly do better but this is not it.

Sounds like Charlie Veitch of the love police.

reply to post by Asktheanimals


Perhaps you would not build anything... but if things cost nothing more than the resources they consume, what would be stopping you? If you wanted a 10 room house why not? (other than its greedy and unsustainable and resource intensive to clean, maintain, heat/cool etc) They used to have community barn raisings... it would be no different than that. Nobody paid for someone to build their stuff.

When you were young, didn't you want to be something? I think we are so entrenched in the idea of money that people can't think outside the box anymore. You've fallen into that education system thing of, you know what you've been told. Critical thinking and common sense tell me we would survive just fine without money. Why can't everyone else see it? The problem is, everyone needs to stop using money at the same time, and just continue living life like they do now.

For instance, I currently own a lawnmower. I use to about 20 hours per year. Yet, each of my neighbors each have a lawnmower as well. What a waste of resources. Why doesn't a community share lawnmowers? Or perhaps, someone would like to mow lawns for a job. This just doesn't make sense to me to have a mower sitting in my shed for 20 hours per year of use.

If I didn't have to pay to replace it when it broke or got old, I'd be letting whoever needed a mower to use it whenever they wanted because I know if i need one, I know where to get one... or borrow one of my neighbors.

Vehicles are the same things. I have a pickup truck but I work in an office. I have a pickup truck because I like to build projects and need to pick up lumber and such. It is a fantastic utility vehicle that sits in a parking lot 90% of the time. What a waste of resources. If vehicles were shared, you'd use what you needed. Just walk into the parking lot and pick a car and go home. Free public transit... free flights... free free free... it is possible,