Obama's hidden birth certificate now exposed

Rofl, birthers.

Why the hell you think he's not American?

There are billions of dollars around to remove him from office and they have given up on the birther crap because it just isn't true.

Shouldn't you give up too?

Originally posted by mudbeed
Rofl, birthers.

Why the hell you think he's not American?

There are billions of dollars around to remove him from office and they have given up on the birther crap because it just isn't true.

Shouldn't you give up too?

Logic would agree with you. But logic is thrown out the door when it comes to the birther issue

Ok if this is real and such and brought to the publics attention,how would that effect all the laws and bills he signed,wouldnt that make them all null and void?thankyou op

Originally posted by blasphemusbudda
Ok if this is real and such and brought to the publics attention,how would that effect all the laws and bills he signed,wouldnt that make them all null and void?thankyou op

No it wouldn't... but good news, you don't have to worry about that. Because the op was a proven hoax 3 years ago. Id suggest reading past the first post.

to the hoax bin robin !

holy pimp slap batman !

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


There is difference between citizen and the right to be president....you can be a citizen of the US but not eligible for the presidency. ..ie....Schwarzenegger.

Obama should look up the revolutionary war and learn to understand that the Constitution is not racist or restricting in any way it gave us electricity and thousands of other inventions we all use today why not continue the trend?

It is a little late in the game to call a foul. He has been POTUS for freaking years. Stop complaining AND LET IT GO. In four to eight years the History Channel will run a special exposing the prank played on us all. We can sit back and laugh at ourselves then. Let us find something else to bitch aboot.


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Originally posted by saveliberty2012really
Obama should look up the revolutionary war and learn to understand that the Constitution is not racist or restricting in any way it gave us electricity and thousands of other inventions we all use today why not continue the trend?

What in the world are you even talking about???

Originally posted by freedom12
reply to post by Rafe_

 

Thanks once again OP!!

It's been over an hour now since I've read your post. I called my mom after reading what you said and told her......she broke down in tears of joy. She's throwing a party right now. Infortunately, I live three states away and can't make it. She just called back and said her house is almost full, but it was hard to hear her over all the honking car horns on the street outside her house.

Closer to home here, when my cousins Billy Ray and Bubba found out, they got the shotguns out and let off several rounds in their neighborhood.

Who becomes Vice-President now, after Biden moves up?

freedom12, sorry to pop your bubble but this birth certificate is a 3 year old fake that was already disproven (see page 9 of this thread - pertinent post copied below) and that is why this has been moved to the HOAX category.

Originally posted by Connector
God...not again......




"You've Been Punked" and by a 3yr old one at that....

~ETA~
Here's the whole series of pics on how the guy created it.....

Obama's Fake Kenyan BC

edit on 25-2-2012 by Connector because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by imnothereru

Originally posted by bknapple32
Here is the failure to communicate. It is not opinion. It is not conforming to our ways. This is fact. Plain and simple. No other way around it, unless you want to ignore facts (kinda the opposite of ATS's motto huh?) Whether you love Obama or hate him, it doesn't change the fact that the man was eligible for become president, and is the president legally.

This is not an attempt to make you like or agree with Obama. We are citizens of the United States and members of ATS who refuse to allow lies to be spread. No, we wont go away and we wont become silent. We will go to every new birther thread on here and bombard it with cold hard facts.... Something birthers seem to like to ignore.

^confirmed self confessed shill^

But tell me, are you also going to spread the fact that obamas own released document is a proven fake?

Or are you in effect going to make a hypocrite of yourself?


My money is on the latter ^^







Sleep well

edit on 28-2-2012 by imnothereru because: (no reason given)

If you're using this guys video to prove it's a fake your argument is entirely weak and unfounded. Also you lost the money bet you made in your post. By scanning anything with text on it and making it into a PDF (with OCR on), it can automatically convert the text to editable text if the text is clean enough. I know I do this as a graphic designer for a living. Also the person in the video takes the "single" layer of the scanned image and uncollapses it in Illustrator to prove it was made on separate layers. Ridiculous! He shows that he uncollapses the "single" layer of the scan to the multiple single elements that make up the group of elements. Anyone that uses Illustrator knows this. The optical character recognition (OCR in trade language) of the Adobe Acrobat PDF maker tries to turn any clean text into separate characters and any lines or pieces into editable art elements. That what a PDF is. Image turned into vector art if done a certain way when scanned. In the video, all he did was ungroup all the OCR'd parts of a single layer.

Please don't come back at me with the Dem vs Repub thing. I have no side I'm taking here except the truth. Find a better bit of evidence and you may convince me. The evidence you put forward in the video is incorrect and wrong.

reply to post by thepixelpusher


And that about sums it up nicely. I wonder if you must be a paid govt shill as well...


This is so tired and over done. But as long as there are people who will ignore the truth and try to purport their own opinion as fact to those who aren't educated in the subject, we must remain as the bearers of fact. Dirty job, but someones gotta do it. Great post.

reply to post by bknapple32

Ha, ha. No I'm not govt., or even an ardent Obama supporter.

Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

 

There is difference between citizen and the right to be president....you can be a citizen of the US but not eligible for the presidency. ..ie....Schwarzenegger.

Yep - but look at he court cases - there are 2 ways to be a citizen - naturalisation, like Arnie, or birth.

That's it - period.

And the court cases have clearly established that being born in the USA makes you a natural born citizen - at least as long as your parents are there legally - as I mentioned elsewhere I don't know what the situation is with illegals.

your parents do NOT have to be US citizens to make you a born citizen of the USA - and the courts have determined that born = natural born because that is the only option it can be.

End of story.

At least it bloody well should be but for ....well....this rubbish!

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


So are you saying Obama was eligible to be elected or no?

The correct interpretation of the 14th Amendment is that an illegal alien mother is subject to the jurisdiction of her native country, as is her baby. Over a century ago, the Supreme Court appropriately confirmed this restricted interpretation of citizenship in the so-called "Slaughter-House cases" [83 US 36 (1873) and 112 US 94 (1884)]13. In the 1884 Elk v.Wilkins case12, the phrase "subject to its jurisdiction" was interpreted to exclude "children of ministers, consuls, and citizens of foreign states born within the United States." In Elk, the American Indian claimant was considered not an American citizen because the law required him to be "not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance." The Court essentially stated that the status of the parents determines the citizenship of the child. To qualify children for birthright citizenship, based on the 14th Amendment, parents must owe "direct and immediate allegiance" to the U.S. and be "completely subject" to its jurisdiction. In other words, they must be United States citizens.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

www.14thamendment.us...

In 1889, the Wong Kim Ark Supreme Court case10,11 once again, in a ruling based strictly on the 14th Amendment, concluded that the status of the parents was crucial in determining the citizenship of the child. The current misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment is based in part upon the presumption that the Wong Kim Ark ruling encompassed illegal aliens. In fact, it did not address the children of illegal aliens and non-immigrant aliens, but rather determined an allegiance for legal immigrant parents based on the meaning of the word domicil(e). Since it is inconceivable that illegal alien parents could have a legal domicile in the United States, the ruling clearly did not extend birthright citizenship to children of illegal alien parents. Indeed, the ruling strengthened the original intent of the 14th Amendment.

The Court essentially stated that the status of the parents determines the citizenship of the child. To qualify children for birthright citizenship, based on the 14th Amendment, parents must owe "direct and immediate allegiance" to the U.S. and be "completely subject" to its jurisdiction. In other words, they must be United States citizens.

www.14thamendment.us...

The Court essentially stated that the status of the parents determines the citizenship of the child. To qualify children for birthright citizenship, based on the 14th Amendment, parents must owe "direct and immediate allegiance" to the U.S. and be "completely subject" to its jurisdiction. In other words, they must be United States citizens. www.14thamendment.us...

And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States: Provided also, That no person heretofore proscribed by any state, shall be admitted a citizen as aforesaid, except by an act of the legislature of the state in which such person was proscribed. Approved, March 26, 1790.

truthmonk.wordpress.com...

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An Act to Provide a Government for the Territory of Hawaii April 30, 1900

§ 4. Citizenship.

That all persons who were citizens of the Republic of Hawaii on August twelfth, eighteen hundred and ninety-eight, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States and citizens of the Territory of Hawaii.



The framers of the Act of Congress providing a government for the Territory of Hawaii approved April 30, 1900, intended to refer to the geographical limits of the Hawaiian Islands rather than to any political conditions existing therein; and that the Hawaiian and American citizenship was to be extended to all persons born in the Islands, excepting only those born of persons engaged in the diplomatic service of foreign governments, such as ministers and ambassadors, whose residence by a fiction of public law is regarded as the place of their own country. United States v. Sai, 1 U.S.D.C. Haw. 118 (1901).



Nothing more needs to be said.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by ILikeStars
reply to post by doryinaz

 

Can you name 3 presidents who were not direct descendants of a royal family?

go far enough back and we all have common ancestors - whoopie do.

What king are you a descendant of?