$2.50 gas and other idiocy

By now, I don't easily get shocked or even surprised by what's happening in the course of the current campaign. A few things stand out, though. Mitt said it was a single person, Obama, who has destroyed the American Dream, and now Newt says that if he's elected, gas will cost $2.50 per gallon.

I'm not on any psychoactive medication but when I read something like this, I feel I need to double check my medicine cabinet.

I don't like Obama very much, he's not a very efficient President and he's done too much to appease the right wing nuts without getting anything in return. In retrospect, no healthcare reform was marginally better than Obamacare. And the list goes on. But, to claim that this person single-handedly killed the spirit of the US... Please, to believe any of this you either need to be a retard or indeed heavily medicated. And I hate Mitt for that -- he'll look you in the eye and say what's expedient at this moment, even though what comes out if worthy of an imbecile.

And Newt is not one to be outdone, it seems. There is global market for any oil product and especially gasoline is typically in high demand. That's what determines the price. If he wants to bring the cost to the American driver down to $2.50, this will only be possible under highly fascist measures which have nothing to do with markets and/or capitalism.

Why is it even possible that these gentlemen feel it's OK to unload idiocy on the American people? The sad truth is that what they say is carefully calibrated by expensive consultants who do their homework.

And so what follows from that... That the American electorate is certifiably mental? I had my doubts when some people rallied around Palin, but now these new data points... Wow.

I thought the same thing when I heard the "promise".
I dislike big oil as much as the next guy, but to regulate their prices to get them down to
$2.50 a gallon would have to happen 1 of 3 ways:

1) Corporate Corruption
2) An Abuse of Power
3) The Reckless Raping of the Land With No Care Of The Consequences

Either way, he wouldn't get my vote...... if I voted.

Luckily I know better.

reply to post by buddhasystem


How old are you?

I bought gas for $2.50/ gallon in 2009, before Obama's fuel rules and "Social Cost of Carbon" came into play.

He's ratcheting up prices on everything that consume energy, and you don't even see it!

Obama secretly sneaks carbon tax on almost everything!

jw

i got gas for 2.90 a gallon two weeks ago and got it for around 3.39ish in montana two days ago so i think its just really really high in the high population states as opposed to the less populated ones i do think we need to devlop more of our own oil but not strip mining status ideally

Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by buddhasystem

 

How old are you?

I bought gas for $2.50/ gallon in 2009, before Obama's fuel rules and "Social Cost od Carbon" came into play.

He's ratcheting up prices on everything that consume energy, and you don't even see it!

Obama secretly sneaks carbon tax on almost everything!

jw

I bought gas for .89 a gallon in Yorktown, VA in 2001 and by 2007 the prices were up to $3.18 a gallon, so under Bush's reign prices jumped up about 350%.
Again, it isn't a Left/Right thing. It's not even a political thing. It's a corruption thing. The prices rise and fall to push stock amounts and poll numbers around like pawns on a chess board.

reply to post by FugitiveSoul

Again, it isn't a Left/Right thing. It's not even a political thing. It's a corruption thing

Applause! Standing ovation from me.

But OP, you are right. There is no end to the lies that come from the candidates mouths.

$2.50 gas is too high.

No other country in the world puts restrictions on their natural resources like the United States does.

The biggest enemy to low gas prices are environmental wackos and Democrats that enable them.

Much like DeBeers and diamonds, the Big Oil wants folk to believe the myth that there's just not that much of it, we can't make it artificially, and the US is dependent on foreign oil to survive. Except we have rather hefty reserves, it CAN be made in the lab and oh yeah, the largest oil fields may not even have been tapped yet. Yeah, it'd be nice to get off our addiction to a "crude mineral slime", but to extort money over a supply falsely said to be low? Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by buddhasystem

 

How old are you?

Unfortunately, I _am_ old.

I bought gas for $2.50/ gallon in 2009, before Obama's fuel rules and "Social Cost of Carbon" came into play.

According to my memory and the historical charts at this LINK, prices under the Bush administration were just as high and in fact spiked even higher for a period of time. Who are you trying to deceive?

Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by buddhasystem

 

How old are you?

I bought gas for $2.50/ gallon in 2009, before Obama's fuel rules and "Social Cost of Carbon" came into play.

He's ratcheting up prices on everything that consume energy, and you don't even see it!

Obama secretly sneaks carbon tax on almost everything!

jw

edit on 24-2-2012 by jdub297 because: (no reason given)

If you believe carbon taxes are the cause of higher oil prices, you are delusional!! They are the result of reckless unregulated speculation

I think that dollar devaluation and fuel taxing is playing a big role in prices

The corporate elites will always raise the prices as long as people will pay them, and unfortunately the cities in the U.S. are set up so that you can't get by without a car. Like all the rest of the corruption, it will get as bad as it can, until people literally cannot buy gas because they don't have the money, and are sleeping in their cars anyway. It's a waste of time to think that the upcoming election will have any effect on anything. They're just flunkies for the global elites, and they don't even care if people know it, because they have control of the police and military. unless somebody can change the minds of the cops and soldiers so that when they are ordered to openly oppress the people, they refuse. Then, and only then will their be a chance for a change for the better.

how is newt going to slow down global demand ?

crash the economy so no one has jobs to drive to ?

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
how is newt going to slow down global demand ?

On second thought, he's the same guy who promised colonization of the Moon by the end of his term as the President. So anything's possible

On Tuesday President Obama announced the opening of 75% of Federal lands to oil and gas lease sales. Proclamations of ending America's dependence on foreign oil are plentiful. Presidential candidates get rounds of cheering by offering increased energy production by any means possible. President Obama also pointed out in his State of the Union Address that the US is producing the most oil it has in eight years and that natural gas exploration has produced tremendous results.

At the same time, conflicts in Libya, Algeria and Iran are all touted as critical to the oil economy of the world. Gas prices in the US neared $4.00/gal again in 2011 and the current climb in prices shows no sign of falling off.

Is there a fuel shortage or not?

The day before President Obama announced making available new gas leases through federal lands several major announcements went unnoticed:

Chesapeake Energy Corp., the second largest natural gas producer in the US announced that in response to the lowest natural gas prices in ten years, they are shutting down production by 50%. Their press release states that, "If conditions warrant, the company is prepared to double this production curtailment". -fancy talk for putting 20% of the nations' natural gas production off-line.

One of the world's largest oil refineries and the third largest in the US is shutting down for good. The Hovensa refinery in the US Virgin Islands is joining the 18 major oil refineries which have closed in the last three years. They cite, "weakness in demand for refined petroleum products", as the chief reason for this closure.

Absent from the President's address was an acknowledgement of improving data on U.S. exports. Of course he failed to mention it because it it too embarrassing and controversial.

The Wall Street Journal proclaimed: U.S. Nears Milestone: Net Fuel Exporter. Fuel was the number one export from the U.S. in 2011 and it is expected that this trend will continue for several more years.

One paper had the nerve to write, "Experts say the trend helps explain why U.S. motorists are paying more for gasoline. The more fuel that's sent overseas, the less there is at home."
62-year milestone: Fuel tops list of U.S. exports

Call me an expert I guess.

This is not nothing.

It is about 3.75 here.

It probably is going to get
up over 4 close to 5 dollars.

I do not see it going down
anytime soon since OPEC
is cutting production.

reply to post by Carseller4


Yet again, you show your ignorance even after other users corrected it by stating that gas prices are driven by worldwide demand.

Do you just post this crap for #s and giggles or are you serious?

reply to post by jdub297


You are a fountain of disinformation, LOL.

Gas prices hit their historical high in 2008 with Bush in office.



And the leading cause now for the spikes in prices is the unchecked rampant speculation.

Higher gas prices are part of OBamas plan to make it so no one can afford it to push "Green Technology". which is the core mission of his party and their Gestapo the Epa.

There you go folks you can try to blame big oil which is the biggest lie out there the past 20 years have led you here

Saving the planet isn't saving your wallets and that is gas which the entire economy revolves around which is why we are seeing price increases in products and services across the boards.

Oil is a Global commodity with 1 billion new users and more people continue to use the largest oil company in the world is not even American it's Chinese- Petro China with a worth of over 1 trillion dollars even if you suck at math that is over 1 trillion of oil that is not being used here.

When your the only kid on the block everything is champagne and caviar dreams but as the rest of the world develops and they increase their market share that takes from other countries.

The idiocy here is blaming a business instead of the Government and the Epa here for screwing you over at the pump compounded by local and state stupidity which equates to higher gas prices from east coast to west coast.

Every wonder why someone is paying 6 bucks a gallon in New York or LA while flyover small town USA is paying 2.50 to 3.50?

Too many cooks in the kitchen or too many middle men getting their cuts off your backs.

reply to post by neo96


Here we go with more of that "Blame Obama" nonsense.

When will people shake off their partisan brainwashing and realize that the market and speculators have more control over gas prices than the President?

Huh? How much longer is this nonsense going to continue?