Freemasons await the coming of their master, the holy one!

What’s interesting is tubal Cain’s sister Naamah had a child with one of the “watchers” and secret knowledge was revealed either to her or perhaps her brother!

"Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which
7 men were striving to learn: And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the
9 women, and have defiled themselves,(note how it says “defiled themselves” and not defiled the females) and revealed to them all kinds of sins. And the women have
10 borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness."

Why did the watchers consider these women suitable as mates, was it because they were descendants of Cain, as Naamah was.

What are you guys trying to say are you denying the fact that Tubal-cain, Haram, Nimrod, Zilla, Lamech, Jabal and Jubal, were not ” ALL” descendants of Cain and are not all held in great honour in freemasonary?

reply to post by LUXUS


Idk how many people know this on here.

But Cain built the Mexican city Tenochtitlan after his son Enoch!

So no doubt he's a mason!

Some people have worked out that Tubal Cain was the clone or reincarnation of Cain.

Cain was accidentally shot and killed by Lamech (who was short(near) sighted and because of the two small horns Lamech thought he was a deer going through the field.
This explains the saying, if Cain would be revenged sevenfold for his death, then Lamech will be revenged 77 times. Which in turns explains the 777 of Revelation =The ultimate revenge of God to those who would destroy the Earth.

Cain is written to be the son of Eve and her union with Satan and his sister Lilith. Eve was said to have had two sets of twins growing inside her. Two families always at war. This explains the verse where Jesus says there two races on Earth. Not Jews and non Jews, but whole humans and human-hybrids of angels.
That makes Cain half an angel which was basically a 5D or 6Dhgher energy being, wh was contaminated with a lower vibrating 3D human female.
So Cain had the ability of an angel to avoid staying dead.
I thought the Jews called Satan, Shamuel meaning snake. Or reptile? Or could Satan be a Dragon?

According to an Egyptian papyrus there was an account of the death of Osiris, written with more explaination.
Well this Egyptian papyrus (I know at this point I am supposed to prove this with a document but it was a documentary on TV and I have a hazy memory of the story but not the title. If anyone knows the story I would love to know it.)
It told of a sinking of an island and Horus and Isis managed to get to another land, after Horus lost an eye and a hand. Does this remind anyone of a freemason ritual?

The boats were unsinkable, even in the most roughest of seas, as this storm was, after the huge landmass sunk.
Osiris was thought to be Cain and Isis was Lilith (in this TV doc). (Could these be the solar boats found buried near the Pyarmid of Giza?)
Horus was the clone of Cain(in this TV doc).
Seth was Set? And Seth was really surprised to find Osiris/Cain still alive, afterall he had been killed before. Apparently he had been brought back to life/resurrected.
Seth I believe was hunting Cain and his party, that included his 4 sons, one of which had a huge dog.
The priests in Lith's party were consulted and they strangely said that the Leo constellation was now the wrong way but the nightsky was still readable.

Osiris/Cain said he knew of a land to the North that had metal ore for making stuff? and he would go and find it.
Seth was on his trail and finally met up with Osiris/Cain and kills him. In a cave.

If I have got anything wrong sorry it was about 5 years ago.


But it set me off on a weird path trying to connect some dots.
What if Cain's mark was two small horns, this would explain the affliction of some people having two small horns on their forehead, wouldn't it? And the beast with two small horns in Revelation would therefore be Cain.

What if Cain can somehow be resurrected but it takes enormous amounts of Negative energy? Wars and terrifying deaths, etc.
What if the saying in Daniel and Revelation; "Who was, who was not and who is to come" refers to Cain? This would explain John's jaw dropping moment.

If it is, then he is coming mad, bad and angry, as he still believes he is entitled to Earth, as he was the firstborn. But as God, all throughout the Bible, demonstrated, the firstborn wasn't always the best man for the job, and quite often would chose the least of the least, like King David.

So maybe the Fremasons are waiting for Cain to be a walk-in, into the body of the antichrist?

Keep feeling the love everybody, and forgiveness will delay him. He needs this negative harvest to come again, that the Illuminati talk about.

Peace.
NB Stone masons carried on the tradition of the Temple in many of the Cathedrals, it was the freemasons who stole their secret handshakes for their society.

Ok here is my thoughts on this, Cain’s father is Lucifer not Satan. Satan and Lucifer are not the same being. Satan was one of the watchers either Samlazaz or Azael. I think it was probably Azael because he revealed the eternal secrets to humans.

The mark of Cain is simply great height, all cains decedents were taller then the average human because cains father was not a human.

The stuff about cains descendants’ being evil was contrived by Jews because they are not descendants of cain, Europeans are and they have their own agenda!

It was from the line of cain that all royalty was selected and the pharaohs of Egypt were also from this genetic line. This is why leaked dna analysis of king tut found him to be of celtic origin!
The Irish are the descendants’ of Magog who is a descendent of Cain!

All this stuff about Cain being evil is rubbish premoted by Jews!

Originally posted by LUXUS
What are you guys trying to say are you denying the fact that Tubal-cain, Haram, Nimrod, Zilla, Lamech, Jabal and Jubal, were not ” ALL” descendants of Cain and are not all held in great honour in freemasonary?

In Masonic ritual only Tubalcain is mentioned. The others are never even referenced so they are irrelevant.

Originally posted by AriesJedi
So maybe the Fremasons are waiting for Cain to be a walk-in, into the body of the antichrist?

There is nothing in Masonic degrees that instructs the candidate to wait for anyone or anything.

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by LUXUS
What are you guys trying to say are you denying the fact that Tubal-cain, Haram, Nimrod, Zilla, Lamech, Jabal and Jubal, were not ” ALL” descendants of Cain and are not all held in great honour in freemasonary?

In Masonic ritual only Tubalcain is mentioned. The others are never even referenced so they are irrelevant.

Are you kidding me, and how long have you been a mason...please re-read the charge
www.freemasons-freemasonry.com...

Originally posted by LUXUS
Are you kidding me, and how long have you been a mason...

Long enough.

please re-read the charge

www.freemasons-freemasonry.com...

This is ritual that is not used in the United States. As I stated earlier, the only mention is of Tubalcain, the others are irrelevant.

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus


So you were not taught that Nimrod was the first grand master and originator in freemasonary? You are not taught about the building of the tower?

You are not taught about haram abif and the brazen sea?

You are not taught about the two pillars and their history/origin?

If this is true it means that there is more than one version of freemasonry and some get told the truth whilst others don’t. Which btw I think is so with prince hall freemasonry!

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
This is ritual that is not used in the United States. As I stated earlier, the only mention is of Tubalcain, the others are irrelevant.

More specifically, it's not ritual at all... It's the writings of one architect in the 1600s. It's an op-ed piece, nothing more. Interesting, to be sure, but not specifically what Freemasonry teaches... just one man's interpretation of the teachings.

I`ll give you this much...your thread is not quite as bad as a lot of other freemason-bashing threads out there. At least you try to figure out who hiram abiff is and what all this about king solomons temple is.

I dont have the answers to those questions, but I can assure you that all of the freemasons I know are not aware of waiting on any master. I think they'd be quite taken aback if that were so.

Originally posted by LUXUS
So you were not taught that Nimrod was the first grand master and originator in freemasonary? You are not taught about the building of the tower?

Neither Adam, nor Nimrod, nor Moses, nor Joshua, nor David, not Solomon, nor Hiram, nor St. John the Evangelist, nor St. John the Baptist belonged to the Masonic Order. It is unwise to assert more than we can prove, and to argue against probability. There is no record, sacred or profane, to induce us to believe that these holy and distinguished men were Freemasons, and our traditions do not go back to their days.--Dr Dalcho, G. M. of South Carolina. Historical Landmarks, vol. i, p. 59.

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You are not taught about haram abif and the brazen sea?

Haram? No. Hiram, yes. Brazen sea? Only in the context of the temple.

Within the Temple, all the arrangements were mystically and symbolically connected with the same system. The vault or ceiling, starred like the firmament, was supported by twelve columns, representing the twelve months of the year. The border that ran around the columns represented the zodiac, and one of the twelve celestial signs was appropriated to each column. The brazen sea was supported by twelve oxen, three looking to each cardinal point of the compass.

And so in our day every Masonic Lodge represents the Universe. Each extends, we are told, from the rising to the setting sun, from the South to the North, from the surface of the Earth to the Heavens, and from the same to the centre of the globe. In it are represented the sun, moon, and stars; three great torches in the East, West, and South, forming a triangle, give it light; and, like the Delta or Triangle suspended in the East, and inclosing the Ineffable Name, indicate, by the mathematical equality of the angles and sides, the beautiful and harmonious proportions which govern in the aggregate and details of the Universe; while those sides and angles represent, by their number, three, the Trinity of Power, Wisdom, and Harmony, which presided at the building of this marvellous work, These three great lights also represent the great mystery of the three principles, of creation, dissolution or destruction, and reproduction or regeneration, consecrated by all creeds in their numerous Trinities.

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You are not taught about the two pillars and their history/origin?

We are, again in the context of King Solomon's temple.

If this is true it means that there is more than one version of freemasonry

Oh, believe me, there are hundreds.

and some get told the truth whilst others don’t

It's mythology. Who's to say any of it is true?

And, finally, the Mason should be humble and modest toward the Grand Architect of the Universe, and not impugn His Wisdom, nor set up his own imperfect sense of Right against His Providence and dispensations, nor attempt too rashly to explore the Mysteries of God's Infinite Essence and inscrutable plans, and of that Great Nature which we are not made capable to understand.

Let him steer far away from all those vain philosophies, which endeavor to account for all that is, without admitting that there is a God, separate and apart from the Universe which is his work: which erect Universal Nature into a God, and worship it alone: which annihilate Spirit, and believe no testimony except that of the bodily senses: which, by logical formulas and dextrous collocation of words, make the actual, living, guiding, and protecting God fade into the dim mistiness of a mere abstraction and unreality, itself a mere logical formula.

Nor let him have any alliance with those theorists who chide the delays of Providence and busy themselves to hasten the slow march which it has imposed upon events: who neglect the practical, to struggle after impossibilities: who are wiser than Heaven; know the aims and purposes of the Deity, and can see a short and more direct means of attaining them, than it pleases Him to employ: who would have no discords in the great harmony of the Universe of things; but equal distribution of property, no subjection of one man to the will of another, no compulsory labor, and still no starvation, nor destitution, nor pauperism.

Let him not spend his life, as they do, in building a new Tower of Babel; in attempting to change that which is fixed by an in-flexible law of God's enactment: but let him, yielding to the Superior Wisdom of Providence, content to believe that the march of events is rightly ordered by an Infinite Wisdom, and leads, though we cannot see it, to a great and perfect result,—let him be satisfied to follow the path pointed out by that Providence, and to labor for the good of the human race in that mode in which God has chosen to enact that that good shall be effected: and above all, let him build no Tower of Babel, under the belief that by ascending he will mount so high that God will disappear or be superseded by a great monstrous aggregate of material forces, or mere glittering, logical formula; but, evermore, standing humbly and reverently upon the earth and looking with awe and confidence toward Heaven, let him be satisfied that there is a real God; a person, and not a formula; a Father and a protector, who loves, and sympathizes, and compassionates; and that the eternal ways by which He rules the world are infinitely wise, no matter how far they may be above the feeble comprehension and limited vision of man.

Morals & Dogma, Ch. XXI

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus

York MS., No. 1, we read: "At ye making of ye toure of Babell there was a Masonrie first much esteemed of, and the King of Babilon yt called Nimrod was a Mason himself and loved well Masons."

"The Masonic Quiz Book", the question is asked, "Who was Nimrod", the answer is, "He was the son of Cush. In the old Constitutions referred to as one of the Founders of Freemasonry, and in the Scriptures as the architect of many cities."

“ Freemasons: a Poem
If history be not
ancient fable
Freemasons came from
the Tower of Babel.
-Anonymous”
1783, London

Are you telling me you are not told about the two pillars and the science inscribed on them and who they re attributed to?

And Haram abif and the construction of the orichalcum vessel?

Would seem that teachings have been jettisoned into side orders, keep them out of the hands of the masses!

The Emperor of Mexico has answered a few of your questions already.

Originally posted by LUXUS
So you were not taught that Nimrod was the first grand master and originator in freemasonary?

No.

You are not taught about the building of the tower?

No

If this is true it means that there is more than one version of freemasonry...

There are many variations on the ritual. My state uses what is believed to be the oldest in the United States and the closest to the United Grand Lodge of Englands late 18th/early 19th century version. What you are postulating in the Original Post is not present in our ritual.

...and some get told the truth whilst others don’t.

Everyone, despite ritual variances, gets the 'truth', which is to be good to each other because life is short.

Originally posted by LUXUS
Would seem that teachings have been jettisoned into side orders, keep them out of the hands of the masses!

Again, what you are quoting is not Masonic ritual.

"Oath of Nimrod

Apprentice Degree (1st).

I, _______, do in the presence of El Shaddai and of this Worshipful Assembly of Free Masons, Rough Masons, Wallers, Slaters, Paviors, Plaisterers and Bricklayers, promise and declare that I will not at any time hereafter, by any act or circumstance whatsoever, directly or indirectly, write, print, cut, mark, publish, discover, reveal, or make known, any part or parts of the Trade secrets, privileges, or counsells of the Worshipful Fraternity or Fellowship of Free Masonry, which I may have known at any time, or at any time hereafter shall be made known unto me.

The penalty for breaking this great oath shall be the loss of my life.

That I shall be branded with the mark of the Traitor and slain according to ancient custom by being throtalled, that my body shall be buried in the rough sands of the sea a cable’s length from the shore where the tide regularly ebbs and flows twice in the twenty-four hours, so that my soul shall have no rest by night or by day–

(Candidate Signs the O.B.)"

Originally posted by LUXUS
"Oath of Nimrod

Apprentice Degree (1st).

This is not used in my jusrisdiction, nor am I aware of its use anywhere else in regular Masonry in the United States as this ritual is from a group called the Guild of Operative Free Masons. You do know that we are speculative Masons? Right?

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus

I have clearly demonstrated that even if today Nimrod and the others are not part of your rituals he was so in the past. That being so one has to ask why these things are omitted in modern freemasonry. Also shows clearly that teachings have been removed for whatever reason!

My observation still stands as all those I listed were part of older rites of masonry and are all genetically related to Cain.

Modern freemasonry is probably just a shell, like a fruit that all the juice has been sucked out of.