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Originally posted by AnarchoCapitalist
Originally posted by CB328
This would not be allowed in a free market
In a "free" market the big banks would buy off or kill people that wanted to publish news of their crimes, so they would never be held accountable.
That is totally absurd.
Brinks Security personnel aren't going to run around mass murdering people at the order of a bank. Brinks would get run out of business quickly.
Originally posted by mastahunta
Originally posted by AnarchoCapitalist
Originally posted by CB328
This would not be allowed in a free market
In a "free" market the big banks would buy off or kill people that wanted to publish news of their crimes, so they would never be held accountable.
That is totally absurd.
Brinks Security personnel aren't going to run around mass murdering people at the order of a bank. Brinks would get run out of business quickly.
How do you know?
Marines kill people all the time in exchange for money, so do hitmen, so do drug companies.
How would anyone even prove Brinks did it? Cause I heard it was the communists...
Originally posted by AnarchoCapitalist
Originally posted by mastahunta
Originally posted by AnarchoCapitalist
Originally posted by CB328
This would not be allowed in a free market
In a "free" market the big banks would buy off or kill people that wanted to publish news of their crimes, so they would never be held accountable.
That is totally absurd.
Brinks Security personnel aren't going to run around mass murdering people at the order of a bank. Brinks would get run out of business quickly.
How do you know?
Marines kill people all the time in exchange for money, so do hitmen, so do drug companies.
How would anyone even prove Brinks did it? Cause I heard it was the communists...
Marines don't have to earn their paycheck by providing a market service.
Brinks, on the other hand, does.
Originally posted by mastahunta
Both are employees tasked to do what they are paid to do. If they do not perform they
will be fired, simple. Some will quit, others will do their job, they will remain and do the
killing, supply and demand.
Hit men are a market service, does not stop them, so are the Mexican
cartels.
edit on 23-2-2012 by mastahunta because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by JakeLeMaster
In a free market, if banks didn't have the reserves of gold (or whatever has arisen in the market as a medium of exchange) to meet outstanding receipts (banknotes), then there would likely be runs on the bank and it would face legal trouble, and it would probably go under.
In the environment today, you have lenders of last resort, legal fraction reserve banking, the FDIC securing deposits, etc.
Which scenario has forces keeping the banks in check?
Originally posted by JakeLeMaster
Which scenario has forces keeping the banks in check?
Originally posted by AnarchoCapitalist
Originally posted by mastahunta
Originally posted by AnarchoCapitalist
Originally posted by mastahunta
Originally posted by AnarchoCapitalist
Originally posted by earthdude
Without regulations the money guys would grab even more money. Masters of monopolization they are.
How?
They would all be bankrupt today.
again
The banks would be bankrupt, the people who own the bank would be rich
Liability limits are imposed by the State.
In a free market, business owners would be held accountable for the actions of their business.
The corporation is a State creation.
Liability Limits are also imposed by contract and legal ease. So how would I get my money back
if I am bankrupt? My phone is shut off, my car is repossessed and so is my home. How do I
get my money back from a billionaire now that I am destitute?
In plain English pleaseedit on 23-2-2012 by mastahunta because: (no reason given)
Money back from what?
In a free market, your money would not be stolen in the first place.
Originally posted by AnarchoCapitalist
Originally posted by mastahunta
Both are employees tasked to do what they are paid to do. If they do not perform they
will be fired, simple. Some will quit, others will do their job, they will remain and do the
killing, supply and demand.
Hit men are a market service, does not stop them, so are the Mexican
cartels.
edit on 23-2-2012 by mastahunta because: (no reason given)
Marines don't lose customers if they kill random people.
Hit men who work for cartels would not exist in a free market society because all drugs would be legal.
Thus, there would be no drug cartels.
Additionally, people would have private security like Brinks to protect them from hit men.
edit on 2/23/2012 by AnarchoCapitalist because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by xuenchen
Prior to the Federal Reserve in 1913, we may have been under a free market system.
Originally posted by daskakik
Originally posted by xuenchen
Prior to the Federal Reserve in 1913, we may have been under a free market system.
Not really. The Vanderbilts, DuPonts and Rockefellers had already been shaping markets at the national level long before 1913. I'm sure many more participated in market manipulation at state and local levels.edit on 23-2-2012 by daskakik because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by xuenchen
But the influences were smaller and less impacting on the public.
Originally posted by Praetorius
I hear so many attack capitalism and the open market as well as deregulation, but unless I'm simply not seeing something, it seems to me that they aren't honestly looking at what really happens in such climates...
Which would run the mega banks out of business quicker?
Originally posted by kwakakev
There is a hybridisation of capitalistic and communistic ideologies going on around the world, at either extremes the result is bad. Finding the right balance is a slow and ongoing process.
Originally posted by AnarchoCapitalist
Originally posted by kwakakev
There is a hybridisation of capitalistic and communistic ideologies going on around the world, at either extremes the result is bad. Finding the right balance is a slow and ongoing process.
Let's say what you really mean:
"There is a hybridisation of voluntary and coercive ideologies going on around the world, at either extremes the result is bad."
Clearly this statement is ridiculous.
The free market means voluntary trade in a system of private property rights. Communism is non-voluntary in nature. Communism does not respect property rights; therefore, the collective may impose its will upon you against your consent.
Violence must be used to take that which does not belong to you from another. The State uses violence in this regard to collect its taxes. Then it uses that money as it sees fit, against the will of the person who originally earned it.
Originally posted by AnarchoCapitalist
Question:
Which would run the mega banks out of business quicker?
A completely free market that had no State imposed regulations at all, and relied entirely on private contract, private security, and private courts to uphold property rights.
or
The current system.
Discuss