Cop Tazers Handcuffed Women In The Back. She Is Now Braindead.

reply to post by rexusdiablos


You are so very correct. The true enemy of the People are the creeps who defend every action taken by a wannabe Nazi cop in America. Their curse on their own people will come to their own homes to roost. It really will. But then, it will be too late for them to see the truth and do anything about it.

SHAME on any American who defends evil actions like this against their own countrymen. Are these, perhaps, the same guys who approve of torturing prisoners? Probably.

reply to post by Malcher
Her cuffs were not attached to any bench.

That's the problem. She wasn't controlled by the cop.

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by eNumbra

 

It might be a 'policy violation' in your department. Cop much?

You were sure that she slipped her arms to the front.... Instead of the cop cuffing her in front. Now it would be a problem restraining her properly...... So she gets away from the fat bumbling idiot.

And you're sure she was never cuffed properly to begin with.

One of us is basing our argument on the information we have on hand, the other is making biased assumptions based on prior opinions of police officers.

reply to post by usmc0311


cops.
they just don't get it.

Originally posted by eNumbra

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by eNumbra

 

Then the fat and stupid cop gets her out of the car and fails to notice that she is cuffed in front? Takes her into the station that way? Doesn't notice?
Okay.

What do you expect him to do? Uncuff her then recuff her? That would be even more of a policy violation then simply cuffing her in front, and would give her an even better opportunity to escape.

edit on 2/21/2012 by eNumbra because: (no reason given)

Escape?? after her face smashed the concrete ?? and she is still not able to think rite or move rite you think she could have escaped ?? Now if your talking about before she smashed her head then I take back what i'm saying.. but if not then that's just dumb to even argue that in this situation..

reply to post by eNumbra

In the station, sure where there are other cops around. By himself outside, not as likely.

She escaped from inside the station.

He screwed the pooch.

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..it doesn't matter. The fact is she should not have been tazed. The cop was out of shape for the job, was doing his job poorly, and then used excessive force on a fleeing suspect.

All of this could have been avoided with one variable, if the cop was better prepared for his jobs. No other variables should be expected to change. Only the cop.

Of course the force was excessive and this cop should be on probation at the very least for being too lazy to chase her. What I'm confused about is that the quote says she's in a vegetative state, but she gets up crying right after hitting her head. She doesn't seem to be a vegetable getting up, which leads me to two conclusions: 1. either this source is misrepresenting what happened, or 2. The cop didn't get her medical attention right away and her brain swelled up.

Regardless, I hope she turns out ok

(((Bleh)))

I am TOTALLY behind the police and do find justifications in the vast majority of cases posted on here to put down cops. Don't even TRY to front, the members on here jump on anything anti American.

However...I cannot possibly get behind thins gross negligence and obvious abuse of power. The system and method's used by the PD have to change.

This should NEVER have occurred IMO!

Wow, alot of replies today. Just to be clear, I did not start this thread with the intent of bashing police officers. I happen to know quite a few good men and women who are law enforcement officers. As with any "group of people" you will have bad ones and you will have good ones. Now, in my opinion we have to blame both sides for this incident however, I do believe that the police officers actions were not justified in this case.

As a Marine serving in combat I have alot of experience dealing with prisoners. When we had a prisoner with his hands bound try to run we, being physically able to do our jobs would catch said prisoner. Now I always had a non-lethal foam batan in my M203 grenade launcher when dealing with prisoners, however, if I shot a bound prisoner in the back because he tried to run away that would be considered a war crime. We had to be very carefull about how we handled prisoners who had their hands bound. And it is not hard to control someone who is handcuffed if you have the proper training, even if they are bigger than you.

The overall fact is that both people made a huge mistake here. The woman is paying dearly for her mistake while the officer pays no penance. I hope this incident haunts the man as I'm sure it will. The man should not be out patrolling the streets, at least not anytime soon. For all we know he could be a fine officer with many commendations and well liked by his community. We all make mistakes. It is what we learn from them that counts the most.

I would hope that police departments around the country see this. I believe that the use of tazers needs to be re-evaluated and the individual officer training as well. I would hope that police departments around the country would opt to use this video as training aid to show new recruits and veteran officers how not to employ this weapon. It is also a good example of the fine line between non-lethal and lethal weapons. Anyway, after reading all of today's replies; that is my 2 cents.

Originally posted by Gawdlike
reply to post by eNumbra

 

Escape?? after her face smashed the concrete ?? and she is still not able to think rite or move rite you think she could have escaped ?? Now if your talking about before she smashed her head then I take back what i'm saying.. but if not then that's just dumb to even argue that in this situation..

I suggest you follow the conversation before you chime in and definitely before you start insulting people.

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by eNumbra

 

She escaped from inside the station.

He screwed the pooch.

Lovely, but I still would like to know what you expected him to do between the car and the station when he realized her cuffs had changed positions.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by eNumbra

 

All of this could have been avoided with one variable, if the cop was better prepared for his jobs.

We can agree.
Was that really so hard to do without all that hateful zealotry?

One of us is basing our argument on the information we have on hand, the other is making biased assumptions based on prior opinions of police officers.

reply to post by eNumbra

Yes, I will admit that I know a lot of cops personally.
That would make my learned opinion biased.

Originally posted by butcherguy

One of us is basing our argument on the information we have on hand, the other is making biased assumptions based on prior opinions of police officers.

reply to post by eNumbra

 

Yes, I will admit that I know a lot of cops personally.
That would make my learned opinion biased.

But you don't know this cop?

I think that there are two issues here.

One. The young lady is obviously guilty of something. Innocent people don't evade the police. To me, this is pretty clear.

Two. The appropriate use of Tasers. I can't speak for US LEO's, but in Australia, you have to justify drawing a weapon. Guns & Tasers require the officer to be in a situation where his/her (or a member of the public) life is in IMMEDIATE danger. To draw a weapon on a suspect with out due cause is a felony itself. As the officer in the video is not in any immediate danger, I would be inclined to think that he should have used other means to apprehend the lady.

Maybe, the US LEO's are allowed to use Tasers in situations that are not life threatening.

Even in this scenario, I would think that a "Stop! Or I'll use my Taser." is required and not just courtesy.


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Ah hello…? Maybe if she wasn’t trying to run away, there wouldn’t have been a problem! And what’s with all the cop bashing? They’re all azzholes until you need one to assist you when someone if breaking into your home while the wife and kids are sleeping. What is with ATS these days?

Originally posted by kallisti36
Of course the force was excessive and this cop should be on probation at the very least for being too lazy to chase her. What I'm confused about is that the quote says she's in a vegetative state, but she gets up crying right after hitting her head. She doesn't seem to be a vegetable getting up, which leads me to two conclusions: 1. either this source is misrepresenting what happened, or 2. The cop didn't get her medical attention right away and her brain swelled up.

Brain swelling is not easy to diagnose (and I'm talking from a person who had that). It's the physician's worst nightmare -- a patient can be lucid or at least mostly coherent and then they slip away on short notice. Getting medical attention could have meant just 3 minutes the girl didn't have.

Edit to add -- of course with a severe concussion they should have realized it soon, but again it's possible it wasn't obvious to the few people around.

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If you agree with that point then why are you arguing at all? Agreeing with that to me shows that you are aware that the tazer wasn't justified and the cop was in the wrong.
Why are you arguing?

If the cop would have not been too overweight/too lazy to do his job this girl wouldn't be dead.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Malcher

 

Person? The hit and run could have involved a mailbox.

That is true.

I read this from another link so just assuming other people were involved:

"Danielle, who had a suspended driving license, was arrested earlier that day for allegedly leaving the scene of two traffic accidents."

Also.. you would have to take a massive amount of coc aine for a long period of time to hallucinate.

It just depends on your mental state at the time you are doing the drugs. There really is not set amount to have your mind play tricks on you from doing coke. Could be a jealous rage built up in your imagination, seeing small bugs, sometimes under your own skin aka formication.

en.wikipedia.org...

Hallucinating does not have to be some extravagant hallucination and could just be seeing thing that are not there. I was thinking, pertaining to this case, more like an over excitement and over magnification of the ramifications of the present situation.

reply to post by eNumbra

Lovely, but I still would like to know what you expected him to do between the car and the station when he realized her cuffs had changed positions.

You aren't that dim, are you? Oh wait, a cop maybe?

This is a nonsequiter, he got her into the station..... According to your previous statement, that is where he and other officers could change up the cuffs. Hell, he couldn't even control her with the cuffs on! What a dud, oh that's right, he is a cop. He was just doing the best he could with the brains available.

Originally posted by Ahabstar
Maybe I watched the wrong video, but I see an officer giving chase while firing the tazer. I see her fall, sit up and hear her ordered to lay back down.

I also see other officers walk up to them. Looks to me like she was fleeing a house (or maybe even the police station itself)? As it appears she came out of a building and there is a parking lot.

Sad if she is hurt, but I don't see a brain dead woman here. Just one that sat up and was able to receive orders to lay back down. Both of which require conscious thought and actions.

Or am I missing something here?

I don't think you're missing a thing. A lot of cop bashing here on ATS. Like I said in a previous post, "They’re all azzholes until you need one to assist you when someone if breaking into your home while the wife and kids are sleeping".