Cop Tazers Handcuffed Women In The Back. She Is Now Braindead.

reply to post by thedeadwalkk


Because at the time she was tased she was in handcuffs therefore she was not a danger to anyone except herself. Therefore there was no reason for the officer to use any form of excessive force to subdue her other than force his excessively fat ass to exert himself a.little and run. But obviously running isn't something this cop had done in a very long time. If she hadn't been cuffed then maybe his actions could be somewhat understood but as stated she was cuffed and was not a danger. That is what excessive force is for, to stop an imminent threat of danger.

What really pisses me off is that there was a time law.enforcement was referred to as "Peace Officers". But that title is as dead as our freedom from tyranny.

reply to post by timewraith117


Another one out of the wood works.
Seriously it sickens me to see people here that care more about their material possessions than a persons life and she was in custody, even if she got to run for a second she wasn't going anywhere. Again it doesn't matter what she did, the cop was wrong.

Also, you don't know the circumstances and she was never proven guilty in a court of law so that is useless police propaganda to save this cops hide. It is probably what worked to save the cop his job. "She took drugs, and crashed into some things!

Even though we can't hear her side of the story, clearly the cop had a right to be a lazy piece of # and electrocute her til she cracked her head open rather than reach out and grab her with his sausage fingers or wait and call a cop without a million hamburgers in his gullet that could get her."

reply to post by usmc0311

I forget is that is actually brain dead or not.

But I cam here expecting to see a woman sitting and getting tazed for no reason.

She ran.

This is justifiable.



The cop did not make her run and risk catastrophic brain injury. She did. She ran, she fell, all on her own accord.

If the cop is at fault, then a butler is responsible for the murder of a person if by opening the door it makes the person behind fall and die.

reply to post by dubiousone


I am not surprised in the least. I like this site, but man you would think this kind of stupidity would be a minimum on a site like this. One that has a motto of deny ignorance.

Originally posted by timewraith117
When i first saw this i was instantly pissed at the cop. Then i read the article which stated she was on coc aine and oxycotton and was arrested for 2 hit and runs. She got what she deserved. Now she can't drive around high and crash into sh*t anymore. Come on, if it was your car she hit you would be pissed. What if she crashed into someone you cared about and killed them? How would you feel then? So in my opinion, one more useless drug addict bites the dust. I also second the motion that she deserves a Darwin Award. But the cop could of caught her if he wanted to. he was just lazy.

Wow.
This is a fine example of what is wrong with the mentality of this world, thank you for posting this example for all to see. When you finally fit into your big boy pants someday, maybe you'll think back to these times when you were so naive and ignorant. For your sake, I hope you don't fall victim to drugs or make any "mistakes", because only bad people who deserve to die do those things.

Originally posted by dubiousone

Originally posted by eNumbra
she slipped he handcuffs around front, had she fallen forward her arms could have certainly dampened her fall

No. Her arms could not have broken her fall even if she was handcuffed in front.

The reason I don't use the phrase "break her fall". It's unlikely, but there are a handful of events that could put her arms beneath her head (had she fallen forward (before anyone else without any reading comprehension jumps on me)) when she landed. Out of her active control, which is why I use the word dampen, rather than break.

She'll always hit her head, but the angle of her fall could put more of the force on other areas of her body first.

reply to post by Gorman91


She did not fall on her own accord! She was tazed.. you can't be tazed and stand up. Normal people don't go from running to stiff as a board you know. And from a fellow Ron Paul supporter. I be you any amount of money Dr. Paul would not find justification in this.

reply to post by eNumbra


Man you don't know what you are talking about at all. It as actually impossible for that to happen with her arms behind her back, but it IS possible if they are in front of her.

They would have to break in half for them to be behind her back and end up behind her head. This is a pathetic attemp to make it the victims fault.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by eNumbra

 

Man you don't know what you are talking about at all. It as actually impossible for that to happen with her arms behind her back, but it IS possible if they are in front of her.

They would have to break in half for them to be behind her back and end up behind her head. This is a pathetic attemp to make it the victims fault.

Her arms were in front of her; I suggest you watch the video.

I am disgusted that the cop used the tazer when she was practically within arms reach. He didn't even have to run to catch her, just walk a little bit faster. The tazer should be used in place of a gun, it stops people without killing them. Would he have pulled out a gun and shot this woman if he didn't have a tazer?

It was a completely avoidable situation. Now she is in a vegetable state because of something that could have easily been avoided. She wasn't running much faster than he was walking. He only had to jog a few feet to get hold of her. He could have gotten in his car and slowly driven behind her. She was handcuffed, its not like she is able to jump over fences or anything. If the situation wasn't avoidable and the woman ended up being in a vegetable state, then I can understand this cop being cleared but because the situation was easily avoidable this policeman should be punished in some way. He made a very bad judgment call, and unfortunately as a cop, you just can't do that.

As for the woman, how incredibly stupid it was for her to try and run away while being handcuffed. Having said that, I have heard stories of women being raped by police after being handcuffed. I could understand her trying to run away if that was the case, and they aren't exactly in view of the camera before she ran so it is a possibility. Not all cops are angels.

The way I see it, the police are supposed to be here to protect us. If this man was too unfit or lazy to run after a handcuffed woman who was only a couple feet away then that isn't going to make me feel very safe now is it? I am sure that he was just reacting on his gut instinct but his instinct was wrong. In this case his instinct should have been to simply reach out his arm and grab her instead of shooting her with a tazer.

For those of you who keep saying "if the cop decided to chase her down she'd still be brain dead",

This makes absolutely NO SENSE because automatically you'd be assuming that the cop would have to pounce & land on the poor girl to stop her, and based on the comments I've read, they believe her head would still somehow hit the concrete.

If the cop decided to chase her down, he would've grabbed her and swung her down & around and pinned her with his knee. We've all seen that maneuver in other police videos. Besides how often do you see an officer dive on a suspect in a manner where a persons head could hit the ground? Come on. I'm just asking that ya stop using that as a justification.

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
however you deal with an incident -there is a posibility of unintended consequences - being " rugby tackled " by a 300lb bloke is going to generate a greater impact force than tazering

the bottom line is - attempting to runaway once handcuffed is pretty dammed stupid

and although it will offend many , ms Maudsley deserves a darwin award

her head sounded like a bat/ball contact...

you ever grabbed someone running from you by the shirt?

yeah.

It's that simple. No need for sports analogies in this case, His fat ass should've grabbed her like anyone with sense would've. not tackles, that mostly happens under more aggressive situations.

they need little guns that shoot a net with weights on them. wouldnt that be more humanitarian and cause less court rulings? It would make the cops feel like spider man and it sure would look alot cooler!

lol, sucks, feel bad for the girl. That guy should've ran after her, why do they allow these cops to be obese?

Cocaine and oxycodone are a deadly combination. Using them separately can be deadly but together is like putting one round in the chamber and spinning.

Would have been better to just sit there and take the jail time (if any), but hard to say what was going through someone head under the influence like that (according to the blood test and just reading from the link below). STILL even though she was being questioned for a hit and run what would be the point of running? Was she flashin'?

They already had her info and this indicates someone not thinking right. What if she ran out and was hit by a car?

news.ninemsn.com.au...

reply to post by nixie_nox


It would appear that the officer's weight was revealed to serve as an an explanation for why he didn't just tackle her to the ground...that he would likely have hurt her worse if he did so, with the huge difference in size. But even if that information had not been provided, you can clearly see on the video that this guy is morbidly obese and is far larger than the fleeing suspect.

I'm not sure that he was lazy necessarily, but out of shape? Absolutely. Would it have even been possible for him to have chased her down? Probably not, but she likely would have tripped and fallen forward after a few more feet due to the inability to put her arms out for balance since she was handcuffed. At which point she could have easily been subdued.

She obviously should not have fled, but the use of a taser was unfounded and unnecessary given the fact that she was not in any position to hurt anyone while cuffed and also not likely to get very far in that condition either. Poor judgement was used on both sides of this situation...hopefully this will prompt FL police to reevaluate their standards on the use of force, and surely this incident will stick in that officer's mind for a long time to come. Sadly, the girl won't have a chance to rehabilitate herself and try to live a better life...her life is gone.

reply to post by eNumbra

You are correct that her arms were handcuffed in front of her. What I would like to know is how you surmised that she 'slipped the cuffs in front of her'. She didn't do that in the video.

I believe that it is much more likely that the cop who didn't follow protocol cuffed her in front. Did you ever see someone run with their hands cuffed behind their back? Easier said than done. It is much easier to run with your hands cuffed in front of you than behind you.

reply to post by lambs to lions

Orange County district attorney Tony Rackauckas gave a detailed account of the events during a press conference on September 21, 2011. Using digital audio recording devices carried by the officers, surveillance video from a pole camera at the Fullerton Transportation Center, and other evidence, Rackauckas was able to show that Thomas did comply with orders from Officer Ramos, who had put on latex gloves and asked Thomas "Now see my fists? They are getting ready to # you up".[13] Rackauckas went on to describe how Thomas begged for his life, before being beaten to death.

Not saying this is the case here, but with a job like policing people, there is the potential that people join up for all the wrong reasons and that is a problem that needs to be adressed.

reply to post by butcherguy


Because I read the article. It is equally possible that she slipped them around front. Your belief, considering you know nothing about either of the people involved in this incident is a reach.

It is much easier to run with your hands cuffed in front of you than behind you.

edit on 21-2-2012 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)

Indeed, that would give her a reason to slip them in front.

Originally posted by eNumbra
reply to post by butcherguy

 

Because I read the article.

Where did that info come from? The brain dead girl that is supposedly a double-jointed cuff slipper?

Or a cop that didn't follow protocol and is lying to protect his job?