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Originally posted by cryptographrix
reply to post by nightstalker78
I've seen female murderers in the news even though all the Nazis were men.
I didn't say that "all non-chopped Pit Bulls will be loving, wonderful domestic creatures that humans share life-goals with."
I said "chop the tail or ears of a Pit Bull off and they will get pissy with you more often."
Half of the time, people buy them like that, because "it looks nice" and the Pit Bull is a very resentful creature by that point - it's already a product of industry.
Sure, they still have the potential to be aggressive, but if you want a passive puppy, if you want to be passive yourself, why are you even on ATS?
Raise a pit bull that doesn't look "nice."
Don't trim the ears, don't chop the tail and don't accept a puppy from a line of breeders that do, and you'll get the most loyal dog you've ever known.
Inversely, buy any other type of dog with their tail and ears chopped, and I'm willing to bet that after a couple generations, they are going to be very angry dogs.
Originally posted by midicon
I live in Scotland where pitbulls are banned and although cross breeds do surface the law is rarely enforced.
Bull terriers are more the norm here. I see many of them around and I must say they are invariably attached to young punks. I wonder why that is...and what your choice of breed says about you. I don't like these dogs...or their owners...both should be avoided.
Originally posted by elouina
reply to post by _R4t_
I totally agree that the parents were wrong. Now take a dog that has the potential to be aggressive. And add in a crying baby that can try the most saintly of nerves. A crying baby can drive parents to the fringe... Let alone with the hyperacute hearing of a dog. It can actually be painful for them. Then take away the dogs constant attention. And when the child becomes mobile, how about a few yanks on the tail or fur? (Yes children are exploring and reflexively grabbing things. ) Maybe even an accidental kick in the side while they sit waving their legs around? Or how about some waving arms with a hot dog attached? So much potential for a problem there. Why even risk it?
Originally posted by Frankenchrist
We need to start making tougher babies
Originally posted by cryptographrix
reply to post by nightstalker78
Wow, so you're going to resort to claiming that /I'm/ the edge case?
Own a Pit, and don't be cruel to humans or animals. That's the way it works.
The people that generalize what they perceive to be a single breed of dog (Pits can be any combination of Terrier and boxer, or just a muscular Terrier, for that matter) are the edge cases and need to chill their propaganda because it's not based on reality - it's based on a very small slice of reality that they choose to pick up from some random news source that needs something to report.
And a news story about a Pit Bull killing some kid will always get more idiots than the "neighbor's Terrier killed my kid."
Originally posted by Awolscout
Originally posted by nightstalker78
Originally posted by SlapTheGinkels
You mess with my pit I hope she kills you.
2nd line.
Andddddddddddd this reply says what most pit bull owners think about their dog.Killing machine.
Uhhhh no. When I was in high school I had a pit, he was probably the sweetest dog I've ever met. I hate dogs with a passion having been attacked by my families golden retriever (Bet you don't have an issue with them) for no reason what so ever when I was three. It kind of stuck with me over the years, hell I can have a chihuahua bark at me and it sends shivers down my spine for no fault of my own.
Pit Bulls are not vicious dogs what so ever, they're extremely loyal though and will protect what is seen as a threat. But no more than any other dog, because guess what? They're animals. Animals do that. But don't even start to blame the breed as a violent thing, a poor home is what causes them to go vicious.
Just ask yourself what kind of home and owners would leave a 72-hour old baby alone long enough for it to be attacked? That should give you a good indication of how they probably treated that Pit.
Originally posted by cryptographrix
reply to post by nightstalker78
It's NOT the owner, it's how the Pit is raised.
Chop their tails and ears and they'll get pissed at you over time - do that to a human and see what happens, though - I can't imagine either would be a good idea.
Otherwise, you can raise them alongside your kids. They are VERY loyal dogs.