Anti-Zionism - An excuse to be openly an anti-semite

Originally posted by Sintabon3
As for the ancestry of the majority of palastinians, I know that due to the fact that most common Palastinian last names originate in other Arab countys wich are quiet far away from the area

a) You realize that Palestine is tiny compared to the rest of the Arab world? Of course the semantics of names and what not will be dominated by the rest

b) The most common Russian name at one time was "Ivan", same as German "Johannes", derived from the Jewish "Jonah", "Ionah" etc. What is this telling me? That Germans and Slavs are actually Jews?

You are really scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for any substance in this troll bomb of yours.

What does "El Mugrebi" have to do with the preposterous thesis in the OP anyhow?

Originally posted by MagnumOpus
Sentabon is an anti-semite, as he hates Jesus and the Essene, the Jewish Messiah that was working on preventing this mess 2,000 years ago. He is likely trying out for the Mossad as a political propagandist. imho

Do the ignorant ever learn, apparently not. They can't read the Talmud and see the obvious. They lost the Ark of the Covenant and don't even know what that was about. They don't understand the alchemical origins of many gods and religions.

The Old Testament was about a vengeful god, and the New Testament about the Loving God.

When one adopts the vengeful god of Babylon, all the good folks see Satan and the Devil as their god.

Sentabon appears to have want to become the supporter of Satan. imho


Better recognize the pious Semitic Essene were right, before the bombs start to fall. The Russians and the Chiinese also see through the Zionist non-sense and they got nukes. Lots of Nukes.

So does Israel...those Anti-semetic Jewish satanist (seriousely you are redicoules) have a way to protect themsleves today...learn how to live with it.

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by Sintabon3
As for the ancestry of the majority of palastinians, I know that due to the fact that most common Palastinian last names originate in other Arab countys wich are quiet far away from the area

a) You realize that Palestine is tiny compared to the rest of the Arab world? Of course the semantics of names and what not will be dominated by the rest

b) The most common Russian name at one time was "Ivan", same as German "Johannes", derived from the Jewish "Jonah", "Ionah" etc. What is this telling me? That Germans and Slavs are actually Jews?

You are really scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for any substance in this troll bomb of yours.

What does "El Mugrebi" have to do with the preposterous thesis in the OP anyhow?

edit on 17-2-2012 by buddhasystem because: (no reason given)

The difference is that the tribalism in the arab world is very strong, and they dont change their last names, but hold to them threw out the centuries, as oposed to jews or europeans who changed there names quiet often due to population movments and territorial replacements during WWI and WWII...as for this was a reply to someone else, about the origin of the palastinians, ofcourse you wouldnt understand what it has to do with the thread (It indeed dosnt, but I answerd someone who though it did)...as for the rubish claims of scraping the bottom of the barell and all that 2 cents psychological nonsene...realy, you can try doing better....as for calling the thread a troll bomb...it is nothing of such...This thread tears the mask off your faces, and you don't like it.

Louis Farrakhan on International Zionist bankers:

Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by intrepid
Well you've backed up everything else by links. Can you on those 2 points? And Jews that oppose Zionism are "fringe"? :shk:

Sure. I am happy to back up facts with links.

Zionism (Hebrew: ציונות‎, Tsiyonut) is a Jewish political movement that, in its broadest sense, has supported the self-determination of the Jewish people in a sovereign Jewish national homeland.

Zionism

Most Journalists, Historians, Politicians, Sociologists, Researchers are aware that Zionists are people who support an Israeli state.

That's a definition of Zionism, not Zionists. You don't have to be Jewish to support " the self-determination of the Jewish people in a sovereign Jewish national homeland". That can be found anywhere, from all "races". But thanks for making my point.

In this thread we have learned that all Zionists are scum, responsible for all terrorists, nazis, evil and deserve to be annihilated. What more evidence of anti-semitism is needed?

I hate to say it but if the shoe fits...... and that isn't antisemitism as all Zionists aren't Jews. And there are plenty of Jews that don't support the action of the Zionist Israeli gov't. And they aren't "fringe"

For all readers of these countless debates on ATS I would also like to suggest they examine the debate behavior of pro-Israeli or Neutral-Debaters vs. the debate behavior of "anti-zionists" in regards to this scale (see especially forklifts post on this page)

That's not cool man.

The opening video seems to focus mainly on Muslim "hate" for "Jews" and "Zionists" in Europe.

I did not really get any explanation as to WHY.

By the way, what is the oldest genuine written document (with an accurate translation to English) that explains the concept of Zionism ?

Maybe the Vatican is the only one that has the first original.

I have also made a thread on how Zionists fund and love the most extreme Islamist cult on this planet, yet we don't see them getting bombed back to the stone age? Aytollahs in Iran can only dream of the Sharia Saudi Wahabis apply in their Al Saud nation backed by zionists:

The special relationship between Zionists and Al Saud

These are the kind of things people need to critically look at and see WTF is actually happening around the world and who is ultimately pulling the strings.

This thread is pure trolling

or the OP

is jealous that normal and proud good jewish people
are receiving more love from the world then any declared zionist jew

zionist are antisemite
they have been giving jews in general a bad image worldwide
provocking terrorist attack on any jews

Zionist are the real problem of today
and they are far from being good jewish people
so stop trolling and lying and putting everyone in the same package

Zionist = Evil
Normal Jew = good people

dont hate us for loving people that really want peace
and not the zionist terrorist entity that woreship the devil himself for a god

Like i say .. the most anti semetic people of today and by far .. are the zionist jews

Zionists are only good at spreading sheer propaganda. Once you question them about what their propaganda is all about, they will either get really angry like 'how dare this goyim question us' or they will go into hiding.

Has anyone seen how Israeli leaders get angry when questioned about injustice taking place in Palestine? That's when the actual parroting starts about how Hamas fires Pringle chips tubes which hurts the empty Israeli lands and kills a lot of Bacteria.

OMG POOR ISRAHELL!!!!!

Originally posted by Sintabon3

Originally posted by RealSpoke

What is the Jewish issue? It is 1700 years of utter hell visited on the Jewish people. The Nazi Holocaust - the "Final Solution" to that issue - was only the "latest greatest" in this hell.

So, if the whole world is taken, why not the Holy Land? Why not our ancestral home, to which the hearts of our people have turned for 2,000 years?

edit on 17-2-2012 by Sintabon3 because: (no reason given)

Why not the Holy Land, your "ancestral home"? Because the bulk of the population of Israel is not even Semitic: they are Khazar converts. That's why.

"According to both the early-20th-century popular historian H.G.Wells and the Hungarian-Jewish intellectual and author Arthur Koestler, amongst numerous others, the people known today as Jews are primarily the descendents of a Turkish tribe known as the Khazars. The Khazars have no historical connection to Palestine. They converted to Judaism between 620 and 740AD, and have no genetic connection to biblical Israel, and hence to the narratives of the Bible and the "Holy Land". Koestler actually devoted an entire book called The Thirteenth Tribe (1976) [ZIP file, 471 KB] to the fact that the Jews of eastern European origin, who are known as the Ashkenazi Jews and who make up about 95% of the Jewish population of today, are of Khazar origin. In other words — virtually all of the Jews of the modern world have no Hebrew ancestry, and no ancient connection with Palestine." www.serendipity.li...

By the way, the word, "holocaust" is Greek in origin and means, "sacrificial burnt offering". The Kenite (seed of Cain)/Ashkenazi Khazar converts sold out the real Semitic Jews (of Shem) in a genocidal blood sacrifice to their Luciferian god in exchange for the creation of the state of Israel. These pseudo-Jews financed both sides of the war and were the principal profiteers of WWII.


John 8:31-32 … So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed in him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

Originally posted by Sintabon3
The difference is that the tribalism in the arab world is very strong, and they dont change their last names, but hold to them threw out the centuries, as oposed to jews or europeans who changed there names quiet often due to population movments

What is that supposed to mean? My European last name is at least 500 years old, is that "often" or "not so often"? There are tons and tons of Cohens (Kahane etc) which is a very ancient Jewish name -- your statement is wrong on the face of it. And of course, there is the stubborn fact that for every "native Palestinian" there is 1,000 Egyptians and of course there have been mixing of Arabs in the region, and that's why you have Huseini's and El Mugrabi's in Palestine.

This thread tears the mask off your faces, and you don't like it

What this thread does is shows your innate hatred of non-Jews, along with a few other idiotic notions thrown in for a good measure. I always had a few good friends who were Jewish, some religious and some not, and I still do have Jewish friends, so calling me an anti-Semite is an action worthy of a root vegetable.

Israel is controlled by zionist
and they think they can take important decision in the world today ?
hell .. they can even live by themself .. and are already rich to the teeth
thanks to the US .. so generous to have gave 4 trillions and more to Israel since its creation

Well its time for them to FINALLY Claim Their INDEPENDANCE

Do you agree ?

and maybe then .. people will start to listen
hamas hamas hamas .. rocket rocket (that 99% of the time land in a big open field)
Iran nukes Iran nukes terrorist .. wipe Israel off the map
(Amhadinejad say Israel REGIME to be wiped off the map)

same lies all over again to commit more genocide
they are bad liars
they are not independant
they steal other people lands
they dont care about human casualties

why did the US again helped Israel to be created ?
did US wanted to hide the remaining mad ideology of Hitler ? inside Israel
and inside the US

wonder why you see the military with a strange SS everywhere
certainly not for Sniper Scope

The amount of evil Zionism has been responsible for, till now i am struggling to figure out where it all started and where it will all end, even after years of research. Such mass manipulation and deception especially since the inception of the banking/usury system is way beyond a human brain to comprehend. Even the word conspiracy needs to be redefined again.

"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." - J. Edgar Hoover

I figure out one thing, than it leads onto another and another and another and another.................and your brain ends up going numb.

''A lie is a lie,just because they write it down and call it history doesn't make it the truth.We live in a world where seeing is not believing, where only a few know what really happened, we live in a world where everything you know is wrong'' - BlackOps

Zionism has now turned into one really powerful ghost entity that will eventually choke this world to death.

"The Jewish people as a whole will be its own Messiah. It will attain world domination by the dissolution of other races...and by the establishment of a world republic in which everywhere the Jews will exercise the privilege of citizenship. In this New World Order the Children of Israel...will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition..." - (Karl Marx in a letter to Baruch Levy, quoted in Review de Paris, June 1, 1928, p. 574)


Hitler an Ashkanazi Rothschild:

Saliva samples taken from 39 relatives of the Nazi leader show he may have had biological links to the “subhuman” races that he tried to exterminate during the Holocaust. Jean-Paul Mulders, a Belgian journalist, and Marc Vermeeren, a historian, tracked down the Fuhrer’s relatives, including an Austrian farmer who was his cousin, earlier this year.

A chromosome called Haplogroup E1b1b1 which showed up in their samples is rare in Western Europe and is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews.

"One can from this postulate that Hitler was related to people whom he despised," Mr Mulders wrote in the Belgian magazine, Knack.

Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of Ashkenazi and 8.6 per cent to 30 per cent of Sephardic Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.

Telegraph

Originally posted by Skyfloating

Codswallop. 99% of all Zionists are Jews.

So now you've redefined "Zionist" to mean "Israeli". According to your personal definition, you're only a Zionist if you move to Israel and recognize it as a state. I'm pretty sure we were operating under the understanding that we're discussing Zionism as a political ideology..as in, you can live in Japan, be a practicing Buddhist, but if you believe in the legitimacy of the state of Israel, support the idea of an exclusively Jewish homeland in the middle east, and defend the actions of the Israeli government, you're a Zionist. Is there a specific word for someone who takes a blindly aggressive pro-Israel stance on every issue, and demonizes the Palestinians (and usually all muslims) as homicidal maniacs and sub-humans?

Zionism means to move to Israel and to acknowledge that Israel is a state. Anti-Zionists and Palestinians say that Israel has no right to exist.

If Palestinians would actually acknowledge Israels right to exist, there would be no conflict.

Is there some reason you've taken a complete left turn from the topic at hand and hopped into the tired old line of "them murdering dog A-rabs just won't leave us poor helpless Jews alone. We only want peace and they only want to kill us all no matter what."? It's false and also off-topic. I believe there are a couple threads dedicated to this meritless drivel already, if what you really want to discuss is "who done what to whom". Furthermore, your assertions are racist. You are promoting hatred against the Palestinians. What you say is untrue and demonizes an entire people with broad-based defamatory statements. If I made the same kinds of statements with a few nouns reversed, you'd hold me up as an example of having "proved" the thesis of this thread.

Originally posted by theBigToe
"Zionist" is their little codeword for "Jews".

If they said "Jews" then everybody would have them made for who they really are.

Anybody that uses the word zionist is a brainwashed, propagandized, nutter thats bought into Hezbollah and Hamas' anti-U.S./anti-Israeli propaganda.

Oh really?
Then maybe you can tell us what word should we use to describe the group who is to blame for all the current upheavals in the political and social world.

We have consistently used the word "Zionist" which is understood to include nefarious miscreants from all races and cultures. I do not think that Joe Biden is a Jew, but he did say that he was a Zionist. They have all been photographed making the sign of the Bull with the little finger and the index fingers extended.

Originally posted by Sintabon3

So does Israel...those Anti-semetic Jewish satanist (seriousely you are redicoules) have a way to protect themsleves today...learn how to live with it.

edit on 17-2-2012 by Sintabon3 because: (no reason given)

Someday, you really need to learn how to write and spell. You appear to have lost, as you can't even speak intelligently here.

This mess has been festering for millinea and it only got worse with Zionist Israel. There won't be any solving the mess unless the Talmudist dump the Babylon Talmud issues and get reasonable and accept the Essenes were right. Learn to treat everyone the same and with respect, and share the Arab's lands.

There is a reason the Jewish typically have pogroms against them, as there are problems in a religion that puts down all others and preaches hate toward all others. The Essene were very correct in their wanting for correcting those issues 2,000 years ago, and they still are correct.

If Israel gets nukes, then Russia and China can help Syria and Iran with combined forces of lots of nukes. Israel decided to pick up the sword and they are going to meet the new Jewish god in a blinding set of flashes. There is a reason that the Revelations speaks to only 144,000 being saved in the final countdown, as too many are hard headed, illiterate, like wars, don't know how to change for the better. imho

If the Zionist's war mongering is about take over of Syria in the Libyan fasion, then that being right in Russia's back door they can set up Russian nuclear warships at Syrian ports. Haul in some land based missles and defend themselves to the max from the Zionist's propaganda machines. Russia has seen this many times and they know exactly how to deal with it, and Putin is one tough individual that will blow one country off the map entirely if that is what it takes.

Same goes for Iran, check the map of the bases surrounding Iran and tell us who is threatning who. Iran has the right to defend itself from sticky bombers, false flag operations from the Mossad gangs, and enlist Chinese and Russian help to use tons of nukes against their aggressors. Russia just needs to move a nuclear arsenal down to Iran and have an outpost there like the US does all over that region.

Same things happened with Cuba and the US. Don't learn from history and the next time there will not be the cooler heads of JFK and Khruschev. Putin won't even blink to hit the fire controls and the flight time is short to the target from Syria.

All the Christians are looking forward to the Christian values winning, and they all know that bleached bones and months to bury those bones in Israel is all about nuclear war.

Countdown is on for Armageddon and they all know where Zionism lives and causes wars. imho

i thought i lighten the mood:p

Oh man i #in love jews , my favourite jew Mel Brooks , one of the funniest people on the planet , Woody Allen is pretty funny too despite him being a bit of a raging pervert.

I love jews because they make some amazing films and musicals !
man jewish musicals

fiddler on the roof , annie , chicago, FAME , little shop of horrors , mary poppins , oklahoma, oliver,
west side story !
If jewish people create amazing , fantastic art like this , then they cant all be zionists and sure as hell they arent.
however there are always bad ones in the bunch .

I dont think i've ever met a person who is jewish , not really sure , dont know if scotland has a large jewish population.

actually tell a lie , I met a jewish comedian in glasgow , he was call Aaron the comedy terrorist and he had a really great sketch on 9/11 and the war on terror , he also broke into the royal palace and sat on a bed wearing a full prom dress , he kissed prince william on the cheek before being escorted out by security. A really funny guy I still have his mobile number and when I was drunk at weekends I would often accidentally dial his number and he would tell me a new joke every time.

However if I ever meet a jew and he or she is a dick , well if I dislike him or hate him for whatever reason , would I be classed as an anti semite , or worse a nazi ?

Originally posted by MagnumOpus

Originally posted by Sintabon3

So does Israel...those Anti-semetic Jewish satanist (seriousely you are redicoules) have a way to protect themsleves today...learn how to live with it.

edit on 17-2-2012 by Sintabon3 because: (no reason given)

Someday, you really need to learn how to write and spell. You appear to have lost, as you can't even speak intelligently here.

This mess has been festering for millinea and it only got worse with Zionist Israel. There won't be any solving the mess unless the Talmudist dump the Babylon Talmud issues and get reasonable and accept the Essenes were right. Learn to treat everyone the same and with respect, and share the Arab's lands.

There is a reason the Jewish typically have pogroms against them, as there are problems in a religion that puts down all others and preaches hate toward all others. The Essene were very correct in their wanting for correcting those issues 2,000 years ago, and they still are correct.

If Israel gets nukes, then Russia and China can help Syria and Iran with combined forces of lots of nukes. Israel decided to pick up the sword and they are going to meet the new Jewish god in a blinding set of flashes. There is a reason that the Revelations speaks to only 144,000 being saved in the final countdown, as too many are hard headed, illiterate, like wars, don't know how to change for the better. imho

If the Zionist's war mongering is about take over of Syria in the Libyan fasion, then that being right in Russia's back door they can set up Russian nuclear warships at Syrian ports. Haul in some land based missles and defend themselves to the max from the Zionist's propaganda machines. Russia has seen this many times and they know exactly how to deal with it, and Putin is one tough individual that will blow one country off the map entirely if that is what it takes.

Same goes for Iran, check the map of the bases surrounding Iran and tell us who is threatning who. Iran has the right to defend itself from sticky bombers, false flag operations from the Mossad gangs, and enlist Chinese and Russian help to use tons of nukes against their aggressors. Russia just needs to move a nuclear arsenal down to Iran and have an outpost there like the US does all over that region.

Same things happened with Cuba and the US. Don't learn from history and the next time there will not be the cooler heads of JFK and Khruschev. Putin won't even blink to hit the fire controls and the flight time is short to the target from Syria.

All the Christians are looking forward to the Christian values winning, and they all know that bleached bones and months to bury those bones in Israel is all about nuclear war.

Countdown is on for Armageddon and they all know where Zionism lives and causes wars. imho

Well....maybe my spelling is #ty...but again...i am not a native english speaker...

but unlike you...i don't justify the holocaust or pogroms against jews like you do...that is just pure evil...and after that, you will again claim you are not a jew hater....What a joke...but realy, as pat condell says, if you have problems with the jews...go tell your doctor, i am not interested on hearing your rants about it.

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Indeed .. there is many funny jews on comedy central
they make me laugh a lot of time
i wouldnt laugh if i wasnt liking them

Here is one of my all time favorite .. Jeff Ross
love this guy



or Jon Lovitz
Sarah Silverman
even Bob Saget (his roast was pretty fun to .. must have heard the word jew at least 7 times)

they really do control holywood
and the roast shows
but if they start supporting zionist idea in general .. i would dislike them

You see .. its not because we dont love jews in general
its the ones that support attacking Iran for exemple