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Sign Tearing at Dem Rally Leads to Tears

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posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 01:38 AM
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In recent weeks both sides of the American political spectrum have been angered over incidents that have occured to the protestors of their respective candidates. Tearing up a three year old's sign is one of the lowest points that have been reached, however.
 



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A West Virginia man said yesterday that Democrats stole his family's Bush-Cheney campaign signs at an event featuring Democratic vice presidential candidate Sen. John Edwards.
"They just pounced on us," said Phil Parlock, who took his 11-year-old son, Alex, and 3-year-old daughter, Sophia, to the Democratic rally at Tri-State Airport in Huntington, W.Va.
"She was crying; they were pushing and shoving her," said Mr. Parlock, a Huntington real estate agent. "She was scared."



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Mr. Parlock was merely using his right to freedom of speech, with that being said I don't think people should go to rallies of your opposing candidate to support your candidate. I feel that it's in bad form. If you want to do it outside, or near where the gathering is fine. But you're just asking for trouble if you mix yourself in to the group. Emotions usually run very high at these types of things.

This action of a few Kerry supporters does not speak for the whole of the group just as the actions at the RNC of the guy that kicked the protestor while she was "down" does not say anything bad about the whole of Republicans.

I'm still wondering how anyone can believe it to be a good idea to rip a three year old girl's sign though!

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posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 02:23 AM
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Originally posted by PistolPete



I'm sick. This gives me great pleasure. At least I admit it.

Though in my humble opinion, Dad screwed this up big time. I'm actually of the opinion crashing is just fine.
But taking your three year old to the mosh pit of today's political spectrum smacks of child abuse.

I hope his wife doesn't fall for his mean democrats did it excuse and he finds himself couch surfing for a month. God how stupid. Using your child as a protest prop.

[edit on 17-9-2004 by RANT]



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 02:27 AM
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Notice "Dad" is the only one there with a shirt and tie. Not his venue would be my guess.
Using your kid that way, think about how she's feeling. Damn, in the News Forum, can't say what I want about this "father."



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 02:29 AM
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How hard was it to offer the 3 year old a Kerry-Edwards sign?
I mean.. really?? Imagine how funny it would be for someone to hold both signs!

Although if you are going to rally for the opposition in a situation like that don't involve the kids. Additionally if you see someone doing that, offer the kid a sign.
Don't destroy their other sign, that's equally in poor taste. jeez. :shk:
Children don't see politics the way we do, they just see neat stuff being handed out.(think toys).



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 04:13 AM
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I think shes crying cos dad forced his political opinions on her.

Thank goodness the democrats were there to point out the error of her ways.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 05:44 AM
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You people are severly disturbed.

But taking your three year old to the mosh pit of today's political spectrum smacks of child abuse.

What exactly is wrong with takng your child to a poltical rally? How many of us here on ATS have lamented the lack of interest the average american has in politics? How many of us have complained that Ameircas youth don't take the interest in our government that they should? Is the fact that the man had a dissenting opinin justifcation for traumatising a child?
Say whatever you want but ther is no excuse for taking a sign from a three year old and rippng it up no matter what it says.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 05:50 AM
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Originally posted by mwm1331
You people are severly disturbed.

But taking your three year old to the mosh pit of today's political spectrum smacks of child abuse.

What exactly is wrong with takng your child to a poltical rally? How many of us here on ATS have lamented the lack of interest the average american has in politics? How many of us have complained that Ameircas youth don't take the interest in our government that they should? Is the fact that the man had a dissenting opinin justifcation for traumatising a child?
Say whatever you want but ther is no excuse for taking a sign from a three year old and rippng it up no matter what it says.


You're right, democrats make little girls cry, and we should cultivate more interest in politics amongs kids ages 2 - 4.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by mwm1331

What exactly is wrong with takng your child to a poltical rally?


NOTHING! Unless you're a protestor.


I saw the thread about the guy with the little kid in NY getting pepper sprayed by cops for getting too close to an anti Bush rally... and you know what I didn't see?

Sympathy.

Leave the toddlers at home when you plan on protesting.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 06:06 AM
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Originally posted by mwm1331
You people are severly disturbed.

But taking your three year old to the mosh pit of today's political spectrum smacks of child abuse.

What exactly is wrong with takng your child to a poltical rally? How many of us here on ATS have lamented the lack of interest the average american has in politics? How many of us have complained that Ameircas youth don't take the interest in our government that they should? Is the fact that the man had a dissenting opinin justifcation for traumatising a child?
Say whatever you want but ther is no excuse for taking a sign from a three year old and rippng it up no matter what it says.


This is full of good points. BUT, I would want to state that whether the kid was on the Republican side, or the Democratic side, this is an instance of bad-acting individuals (or a few of the same) - NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE POLITICAL PARTY.

I find it very low when some one takes an instance like this and tries to manipulate it to some political message.

If a black man went to a KKK assembly, and ripped the "White Rules" sign out of David Duke's granddaughter's hands, and maybe even shoved her on her little toosh, and some one snapped a pic of the little gal crying, while sitting on her hooded granddad's shoulders, we would not currently be calling all black men "crybaby makers" now would we? Even though the one particular man was!

Same thing applies here, only without the hoods.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 06:08 AM
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Originally posted by taibunsuu

Originally posted by mwm1331
You people are severly disturbed.

But taking your three year old to the mosh pit of today's political spectrum smacks of child abuse.

What exactly is wrong with takng your child to a poltical rally? How many of us here on ATS have lamented the lack of interest the average american has in politics? How many of us have complained that Ameircas youth don't take the interest in our government that they should? Is the fact that the man had a dissenting opinin justifcation for traumatising a child?
Say whatever you want but ther is no excuse for taking a sign from a three year old and rippng it up no matter what it says.


You're right, democrats make little girls cry, and we should cultivate more interest in politics amongs kids ages 2 - 4.


Yes we should. The earlier we get our children nterested n politics the more knowledgable about they will be when older and the better ctizens they will become


Originally posted by mwm1331

What exactly is wrong with takng your child to a poltical rally?




NOTHING! Unless you're a protestor.


I saw the thread about the guy with the little kid in NY getting pepper sprayed by cops for getting too close to an anti Bush rally... and you know what I didn't see?

Sympathy.

Leave the toddlers at home when you plan on protesting.



I hadnt heard about that one though that was just as wrong, And why shouldn't you take a child with you to exercise your right to free speech? Is free speech only a right for non-parents?



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 06:09 AM
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BTW this has nothing to do with either the democratic or republican party and everything to do with people allowing thier political beliefs to turn them into animals.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 06:12 AM
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The media always tells me that there democrat protestors are always so peaceful...yet in the same breath...the media is always talking about the democrat protestors becoming violent....



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 06:34 AM
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I stand behind my statements above about using this to make broad-stroke statements against any group, but I wanted to add that it's nice to see the ranks of the Young Republicans has grown by one...because I assure you when they got home, Daddy used this as a "teaching point"...lol



RUN AWAAAAAAAAAAAAY!



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 06:49 AM
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It's reasons like this that the age to vote is 18. Sadly, you can vote for the same candidate who will send you to war several months later, but that's a different subject.

Want to expose your child to politics? Wait until they're in middle school, introduce them be on the debate team, Model United Nations, speech class (a requirement when I was in middle school), and school elections.

In most high schools, government class is a requirement for graduation. Most of the criteria is the study and basic knowledge of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Sadly, many adults don't retain this information.

However, as a psychological counterpoint, many of us cried when we got our first haircut, sat on Santa's lap, took our first swimming lesson, and when Mom said good-bye on our first day of Kindergarten.

My personal opinion? Taking a very young girl into a crowd of emotionally charged people with plenty of camera footage is using her as a prop. Hence the suit-and-tie father. He wanted a photo op, and what comes around goes around.

Even if Mom wasn't mad about the outing itself, she's going to be plenty LIVID if she has internet access.

Dot.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 06:57 AM
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I don't see why we have to get kids into partisan politics before age 4. If dad had waited a year she probably would have been old enough to understand the need for keeping Americans safe from Islamofacists, or the nuances of Medicare. Seriously, 3 is just too young.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by dotgov101

Taking a very young girl into a crowd of emotionally charged people with plenty of camera footage is using her as a prop. Hence the suit-and-tie father. He wanted a photo op, and what comes around goes around.

Dot.


Even though I dont agree with how they treated her...you are right...she was there because A) Her dad was afraid he was going to get beat up and used her as some sort of shield....or B) she was a prop...



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 07:05 AM
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This is the second story I have seen where Democrats at a Kerry Rally destroyed a sign a person had. A lady who was against abortion was at a rally and had her sign ripped and torn at a Kerry rally.

www.catholicsagainstkerry.com...

Today, we also had a Kerry supporter who caused an airliner to do an emergency landing because he got beligerant with a woman who supported the President.

www.newsday.com...

No wonder the Democrats are the party of hate and fear mongering.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 07:14 AM
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Are the 3 sign destroyers on death row now, and the victims receiving trauma counselling.

People are really having to scrape the bottom of the barrell with this senastionalist BS.

There are real travesties going on in the world and the media concentrates on this tripe.



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 07:17 AM
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Her dad was afraid he was going to get beat up and used her as some sort of shield....or B) she was a prop...

I guess the idea that a three year old child in a crowd is safer on her dads shoulders, than on the ground where someone could step on her wthout realising it never occred to anyone?



posted on Sep, 17 2004 @ 07:29 AM
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Originally posted by mwm1331

I guess the idea that a three year old child in a crowd is safer on her dads shoulders, than on the ground where someone could step on her wthout realising it never occred to anyone?


I was just commenting as to why the child was even brought...not a very good idea to have her in the middle of things...



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