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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by cloudyday
Why can we rest our declarations on the Word of God? Thats what Biblical faith is anyways, believing something because God has already declared it to be so. Or in other words, we are not saved by making promises to God, we are saved by trusting in the promises God has made to us.
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 5:3 NIV)
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by Akragon
Then what mythology are you basing your assumptions on regarding spirit, God, and creation?
Isn't that the same story as the one with the talking snake?
Sorry my friend, i don't believe in fairytales.
If God created ALL... Then the same is of God
Where are you getting "If God created ALL... " from if not Christianity? If you are engaging in an ideological argument within Christianity and reject all accepted norms from Christianity as being valid in this argument, then what do you allow?edit on 5-6-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
... the premise of this thread isn't Christian...
This gives me the impression that you intend to demonstrate how Christians have misinterpreted the Bible.
This thread will fly in the face of all Religionists that believe they understand their bible...
Originally posted by Akragon...
Have you ever heard a christian say "all will be saved"?
...
It is generally agreed that Gregory believed in universal salvation or resurrection.[36] In the Life of Moses, he writes that just as the darkness left the Egyptians after three days, perhaps redemption [ἀποκατάστασις] will be extended to those suffering in hell [γέεννα].[36] This salvation may not only extend to humans; following Origen, there are passages where he seems to suggest (albeit through the voice of Macrina) that even the demons will have a place in Christ's "world of goodness".[37] Gregory's interpretations of 1 Corinthians 15:28 ("And when all things shall be subdued unto him ...") and Philippians 2:10 ("That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth") support this understanding of his theology.[37]
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by Akragon
... the premise of this thread isn't Christian...
Could have fooled me, from the o.p.This gives me the impression that you intend to demonstrate how Christians have misinterpreted the Bible.
This thread will fly in the face of all Religionists that believe they understand their bible...
So what is the mistake, not reading a different book, or maybe not interpreting the stars correctly?
Originally posted by cloudyday
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by cloudyday
Why can we rest our declarations on the Word of God? Thats what Biblical faith is anyways, believing something because God has already declared it to be so. Or in other words, we are not saved by making promises to God, we are saved by trusting in the promises God has made to us.
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 5:3 NIV)
What do you think makes you "saved" and others not "saved"? It's all up to Jesus and we don't know our fate until we die.
That quote from the Gospel in itself does not make your case.
Even those who commit the greatest of sin will gain access to the afterlife....
Thus the title of the thread... ALL will be saved
. . . what would you like to hear?
Shall we stick with the bible then?
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by Akragon
Shall we stick with the bible then?
I'm not interested in proof-texts, but rather whatever it is that inspires your opinion.
I'm not advocating an opinion myself, as much as seeing if you have any sort of substantial teaching that supports yours. What you have offered is not convincing to me and reminds me of the same tactics used by fundamentalists who focus in on single words from disparate verses.edit on 6-6-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)