Zionists , Stop the War Against Iran Now!

Originally posted by casenately
reply to post by LoonyConservative

 

no, you are refering to the mustard gas, which was known by all that its shelf life was expired since before the war. Doesnt count.

edit on 8-2-2012 by casenately because: (no reason given)

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Mustard gas can be potent for a very long time actually.

In 2010, a clamming boat pulled up some old artillery shells of World War I from the Atlantic Ocean south of Long Island, New York. Multiple fishermen suffered from skin blistering and respiratory irritation severe enough to require their hospitalization. This was the first instance of nonmilitary mustard gas exposure in the United States

LINK

reply to post by MRHIDDENHAND


yeah Zionism is a tool, a means to an end, but it is the front runner for conflict in the ME. it is the instrument that is most being used to embezzle money through defense pretences as well as destabilize the only economic competition they CAN thwart. Asia is off limits, so the ME is there best bet. As much as the NWO wants to project its omnipotence, they have strong enemies all over the world. They are just playing nice with Asia. Asia is not necessarily on our side either. They just don't want those maniacs in their governments or society.

Zionism is single handedly putting the Jews against Muslims, NWO agenda at its simplest. Then religion is made irrelevant and eliminated. Then a new one world everything is born from the one world religion. BS

reply to post by sonnny1


Not if it is expired by YEARS. like if you stick your head in a can, yes it can hurt you. If you want to kill more than like 12 people in a room, then you need the fresh and ready stuff.

stop reaching. it was un-deployable

Originally posted by casenately
reply to post by sonnny1

 

Not if it is expired by YEARS. like if you stick your head in a can, yes it can hurt you. If you want to kill more than like 12 people in a room, then you need the fresh and ready stuff.

stop reaching. it was un-deployable

Says the sailors dredging up 100 year old mustard gas from the bottom of the sea........

Got it.

reply to post by sonnny1


sure, but it was not deployable, They might have been hurt, but even 1 year expired mustard gas is no reason to spend BILLIONS of dollars and lose thousands of lives to eliminate. Most experts consider it a non threat or one no less dangerous than if you made a toxic agent with homemade products. The mortality it can have is almost null compared to its original potential. BS stop reaching. NO WMDs. Fake war.

reply to post by sonnny1

The OP will have problems getting onto ATS if he is indeed living in Iran......Unless Iran lets him on............

You're wrong.

Those who can afford a computer and an internet connection can get access to ATS.

ATS is NOT, I repeat, NOT a website that is blocked in Iran.

A lot of sites are but ATS is not.

So don't jump to conclusions if you don't know a couple of facts first.

reply to post by casenately


I am showing you 1 canister of 100 year old mustard gas,gave sailors blisters,and sent them to the hospital with severe respiratory problems. Enough canisters dropped ANYWHERE could prove fatal,regardless if its 1 year or 100 years...

I don't know how that could be reaching........

The Observer (UK) From Jan 11 2004

"However, the find of a small amount of mortar shells is unlikely to satisfy a growing chorus of criticism that the much-touted weapons of mass destruction either never existed or were destroyed years ago. The Danish team has found only 36 mortar rounds buried in desert about 45 miles from Al Amarah, a southern town. But it added that up to a 100 more could still be hidden at the location. The rounds were in plastic bags and some were leaking. It seems they had been buried for at least 10 years."

From the AFP via Breitbart June 22 2005

"A Pentagon official who confirmed the findings said that all the weapons were pre-1991 vintage munitions “in such a degraded state they couldn’t be used for what they are designed for.”

The official, who asked not to be identified, said most were 155 millimeter artillery projectiles with mustard gas or sarin of varying degrees of potency."

Spacewar.com July 1 2004

"Rumsfeld said Polish Defense Minister Jerzy Szmajdzinski told him about the find when they met earlier this week at a NATO summit in Istanbul.

“He pointed out that his troops in Iraq had recently come across — I’ve forgotten the number, but something like 16 or 17 — warheads that contained sarin and mustard gas,” Rumsfeld told Newradio 600 KOGO of San Diego, California, in an interview aired Wednesday."

Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by sonnny1

 

The OP will have problems getting onto ATS if he is indeed living in Iran......Unless Iran lets him on............

You're wrong.

Those who can afford a computer and an internet connection can get access to ATS.

ATS is NOT, I repeat, NOT a website that is blocked in Iran.

A lot of sites are but ATS is not.

So don't jump to conclusions if you don't know a couple of facts first.

Read the article.

They will be checking your ID's at the door.They are also doing it,so they are not vulnerable to cyber attack. They are also doing it,because of upcoming elections. So yes,It would be a lot harder to access the internet from Iran.

reply to post by sonnny1


STRAWS here are some.

that is not true. Yes it is poison. But it is NOT a WMD. it is an ineffective weapon. You could make something more potent with everyday products than expired mustard gas. None of those sailors died did they , they got sick. That is what I thought. maybe they should have like taken a bath in it for you to have some evidence that Iraq, the most well known fake war, over that of Vietnam, is somehow vindicated in its loss of life and money. not to mention global security. BS

reply to post by hmdphantom
Oh goody! Yet another evil Israel, sweet and innocent Iran thread.
*yawn*

hmdphantom, I have questions for you.

Where do you stand on the issue of the protestors that the Iranian regime crushed, in 2009?

Where you out there protesting?
Or were you one of the thugs, killing innocents?

Originally posted by casenately



"A Pentagon official who confirmed the findings said that all the weapons were pre-1991 vintage munitions “in such a degraded state they couldn’t be used for what they are designed for.”

The official, who asked not to be identified, said most were 155 millimeter artillery projectiles with mustard gas or sarin of varying degrees of potency."

So they couldnt use the shells,to deliver the munitions.

The official, who asked not to be identified, said most were 155 millimeter artillery projectiles with mustard gas or sarin of varying degrees of potency.

Does that mean the potency was lethal or non present?

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by sonnny1

 

The OP will have problems getting onto ATS if he is indeed living in Iran......Unless Iran lets him on............

You're wrong.

Those who can afford a computer and an internet connection can get access to ATS.

ATS is NOT, I repeat, NOT a website that is blocked in Iran.

A lot of sites are but ATS is not.

So don't jump to conclusions if you don't know a couple of facts first.

Read the article.

They will be checking your ID's at the door.They are also doing it,so they are not vulnerable to cyber attack. They are also doing it,because of upcoming elections. So yes,It would be a lot harder to access the internet from Iran.

I am telling you this, the government systems to control the internet in Iran are worth jack #. I don't care if you bring a government written propaganda piece about how they have the internet under control (lol) or you bring a blog post or w/e, I am simply not believing it BECAUSE I know the truth is different. It is often said that where there is a will, there is a way...Checking IPs at the door? Proxy...or reroute through a pc in Europe, US, anyplace really...

The quality of the internet over there is a whole different story though.

So really, dump whatever article you were reading in the bin, people prostitute themselves out, on facebook, in Iran. How's that possible in a place where you are saying the internet is tightly controlled? Islamic regime as well, go figure...

reply to post by casenately


If you were a Chemical warfare expert,I would agree with you,but because you are not,I have to say your credentials are to be desired. YOU have no clue what the true conditions of these toxins are,their shelf life,etc......
The sailors were affected by it,regardless how you label it. Poison? sure. Chemical weapon,that it was.

Thank God,no one died.

You talk shelf life,like a loaf of bread.

reply to post by sonnny1


here is a video that describes the internet situation in Iran.

it is about a revolutionary guard that left and they talk about how the Internet is the number 1 form the public learns and communicates to fight the regime. They have internet. No crazy let me see your ID thing.


www.guardian.co.uk...

reply to post by sonnny1


are you an expert? NO

and you use this BS example of non evidence to justify CRAP arguments that there were somehow WMD when the world community of experts and scientists and specialists agree it was not a threat as sold to us.

you have proven nothing but your firm grip on your opinion beyond the facts. Enjoy the blinders.

Originally posted by InfoKartel


I am telling you this, the government systems to control the internet in Iran are worth jack #.

Your right.

I forgot you own credentials on Iranian cyber security...........


From what I hear,Iran Cyber warfare division can drop US drones from the sky. They cant be too bad,hey?

Originally posted by casenately


and you use this BS example of non evidence to justify CRAP arguments that there were somehow WMD when the world community of experts and scientists and specialists agree it was not a threat as sold to us.

NOT ONCE......

Did I say anything about WMD in Iraq. I quoted YOU, who brought it up.



All I brought up was mustard gas can be lethal past the expiration date.

Take a deep breath man.......

reply to post by sonnny1


it is still unconfirmed who dropped the drone. I have heard everything from the Chinese helped them, or we just lost our satellite link to it. It is still not proven that Iran did it, have proof they did? PROOF, not heresy.

reply to post by sonnny1


no problem,

but it does not count,

it is poison. That is not being disputed. Its effectiveness and its classification as WMD IS.