Zionists , Stop the War Against Iran Now!

It is an almost exact replay of what we saw in 2002-2003 during the build-up to the war of aggression against Iraq – with one significant exception. The "progressive” opposition to the baseless warmongering is virtually non-existent this time around – because the warmonger-in-chief is their own champion, their partisan standard-bearer.

BO.ir

This is how Zionists have been playing games for centuries.

And there are some facts here on this website :

Fact: Iran does not possess a nuclear weapon.

Fact: Iran has the right, according to international law, to develop nuclear energy for civilian use.

Fact: Iran’s nuclear energy program is regularly monitored by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Fact: Iran has never started a war.

Fact: The United States possesses 10,600 Nuclear war heads in its stockpile, 7,982 of which are deployed and 2,700 of which are in a contingency stockpile. The total number of nuclear war heads that have been built from 1951 to present is 67,500.

Fact: The United States is the only country y to have ever used nuclear weapons. It did so when it incinerated hundreds of thousands of Japanese people living in the cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
Neither city had any military significance.

Fact: The United States has spent $7 trillion on nuclear weapons. The U.S. military budget for 2012 alone is about equal to Iran’s entire Gross National Product.

Fact: Israel, the largest recipient of U.S. foreign aid (about $3 billion in 2011), unlike Iran, possesses hundreds of nuclear weapons.

Fact: Israel, unlike Iran, refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, or allow the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) into Israel to monitor its nuclear program.

Fact: There is active discussion in the Israeli media about whether Israel will carry out military strikes against Iran’s nuclear energy facilities. Israel bombed similar nuclear civilian energy facilities in Iraq in 1981 ("Operation Babylon”) and in Syria in 2007 ("Operation Orchard”).

Fact: The United States and Britain used severe economic sanctions and CIA covert operatives to over throw the democratically elected government of Iran led by Dr. Mohammad Mosaddegh in 1953.
The Iranian government had nationalized the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), which became known as British Petroleum (BP), in a campaign to use oil profits to eradicate widespread poverty within Iran. The successful CIA and British Intelligence coup d’état put the Shah of Iran (King) back in power. The Shah’s dictatorship denationalized Iranian oil and returned it to the ownership of British and U.S. oil companies. The Shah executed and tortured thousands during his 26-year bloody reign, which ended in the 1979 revolution that created the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Fact: The United States broke diplomatic relations with Iran and has pursued a policy of economic sanctions against the country since the over throw of the U.S.-backed Shah (King).

Fact: Iran’s oil reserves are the fourth largest in the world — it has 12.7 percent of the world’s known oil reserves. That makes Iran’s oil reserves second only to Saudi Arabia in the Middle East, greater than those of Iraq.

Fact: The new economic sanctions against Iran include a ban on the import, sale and trade of Iranian oil, which constitutes half of Iran’s Gross National Product. It forbids any company in the world that does any business with Iran or its Central Bank from having any trade or economic transaction with a U.S. bank or corporation.

Fact: The economic sanctions are an effort to create economic suffering in Iran and to deprive the country of the goods and services to sustain life. According to international law, these economic sanctions constitute a blockade or an act of war against Iran even though Iran poses no threat to the people of the United States or Europe.

BO.ir

I found these facts very true and I wanted to share.

We cant .. it is now inevitable

only China and Russia can stop it

Originally posted by hmdphantom
Fact: Iran does not possess a nuclear weapon.

Yeah, yet.
If Israel had no nukes, and they were starting to build them along with publicly going against Iran and using mass genocide remarks, you'd be worried too.

Fact: Iran has the right, according to international law, to develop nuclear energy for civilian use.

Is this why they have currently reached 20% enriched uranium and are aiming much higher?
If they develop nuclear energy for civilian use, why all the hiding? Why the secrecy? Why haven't they claimed even once their approval for inspectors to come and fully inspect their facilities? There can only be one answer.

Fact: Iran’s nuclear energy program is regularly monitored by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Fact: The Iranians are not complying with the IAEA, but that does not seem to make you spew out irrelevant facts.
Iran 'not co-operating' says new IAEA chief
IAEA Criticizes Iran Cooperation

Fact: Iran has never started a war.

Because they are too scared to start one on their own. Regardless, Fact: Iran funds armed militias all over the Middle East to do their proxy fighting for them. That is even lower than starting a war.

Fact: The United States possesses 10,600 Nuclear war heads in its stockpile, 7,982 of which are deployed and 2,700 of which are in a contingency stockpile. The total number of nuclear war heads that have been built from 1951 to present is 67,500.

Fact: Most of the world feel safer having a country like the US as a superpower, much more than having an Islamic theocracy that hangs homosexuals in the street getting that power.

Fact: The United States is the only country y to have ever used nuclear weapons. It did so when it incinerated hundreds of thousands of Japanese people living in the cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
Neither city had any military significance.

Fact: It ended the war, made the axis countries surrender to the sheer power, and if used before, perhaps millions of soviet soldiers wouldn't have to die to the Nazi army.


Fact: I have to be going now and I will be more than happy taking your thread apart when I return.
Fact: You still sound as whiny as ever.

Originally posted by Ben81
We cant .. it is now inevitable

only China and Russia can stop it

In fact it is.

But it is Zionists who rule in USA.

You just choose between what they decide.

Then you are not doing anything much.

reply to post by IsraeliGuy


Are you Zionist ?

Fact: It ended the war, made the axis countries surrender to the sheer power, and if used before, perhaps millions of soviet soldiers wouldn't have to die to the Nazi army.

Actually that is factually incorrect, Japan had already surrendered by the time the 2nd bomb was dropped, it was to show Russia who the real superpower was by showing them the 1st wasnt a fluke. This was admitted to by the US

Originally posted by IsraeliGuy

Fact: Iran has never started a war.

Because they are too scared to start one on their own. Regardless, Fact: Iran funds armed militias all over the Middle East to do their proxy fighting for them. That is even lower than starting a war.

Fact: The United States is the only country to have ever used nuclear weapons. It did so when it incinerated hundreds of thousands of Japanese people living in the cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
Neither city had any military significance.

Fact: It ended the war, made the axis countries surrender to the sheer power, and if used before, perhaps millions of soviet soldiers wouldn't have to die to the Nazi army.]

Okay, hold on there mate.

1) You don't think that the US and Israel fund terrorist groups? Israel funded a militia group to strike Turkey remember. Turkish citizens succumbed to attacks perpetrated by Israeli funded militia.

2) No, it did not end the war. At the time, both Germany and Japan were very much feeling the effects of war, in fact Japan (By memory) was going to pull out of the war 2 days after the Nukes hit.

PS: The nukes were used ny the US as a means of flexing it's muscles, and look where that got the world, to the brink of destruction, with the Cold War and the Nuclear arms race.

reply to post by daaskapital

1) You don't think that the US and Israel fund terrorist groups? Israel funded a militia group to strike Turkey remember. Turkish citizens succumbed to attacks perpetrated by Israeli funded militia.

Correct. Also - Israel, or the Mossad to be more specific, recruited, trained and armed Iranian Kurds residing in Iraq.

The Kurds that want a homeland are fought by the Iranians, Turks, Syrians and to a lesser extent, the Iraqis.

So Israel helps them by offering training and weapons.

Then over in Israel there are the Palestinians who want their home back and Israel fights these folk, while all the others(Turks, Iranians, Iraqis, Syrians) that fight the Kurds, support the Palestinians...

They are ALL full of it. Just abusing people for their own petty political gains which will be forgotten about in less than a hundred years anyways...

reply to post by hmdphantom

Fact: The United States is the only country y to have ever used nuclear weapons. It did so when it incinerated hundreds of thousands of Japanese people living in the cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Neither city had any military significance.

Former USSR has tested (used) Nuclear weapons, as have France, the UK, China and India.
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Originally posted by occrest

reply to post by hmdphantom

 

Fact: The United States is the only country y to have ever used nuclear weapons. It did so when it incinerated hundreds of thousands of Japanese people living in the cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Neither city had any military significance.

Former USSR has tested (used) Nuclear weapons, as have France, the UK, China and India.
link

He/she means, using it on another country, killing civilians and destroying the cities.

Originally posted by InfoKartel
reply to post by daaskapital

 

1) You don't think that the US and Israel fund terrorist groups? Israel funded a militia group to strike Turkey remember. Turkish citizens succumbed to attacks perpetrated by Israeli funded militia.

Correct. Also - Israel, or the Mossad to be more specific, recruited, trained and armed Iranian Kurds residing in Iraq.

The Kurds that want a homeland are fought by the Iranians, Turks, Syrians and to a lesser extent, the Iraqis.

So Israel helps them by offering training and weapons.

Then over in Israel there are the Palestinians who want their home back and Israel fights these folk, while all the others(Turks, Iranians, Iraqis, Syrians) that fight the Kurds, support the Palestinians...

They are ALL full of it. Just abusing people for their own petty political gains which will be forgotten about in less than a hundred years anyways...

But you can see how those who welcomed Iraqis (in Iran) where treated.

They(US and Israel) don't want to help us and they don't care about our freedom.

They just care about their money and their agendas ( like one world government)

Originally posted by hmdphantom

They(US and Israel) don't want to help us and they don't care about our freedom.

They just care about their money and their agendas ( like one world government).

Please tell me how your own government is any different.

Please tell me why most of your neighboring countries don't support Iran either.

Could it be that they've been playing both sides of the fence for too long and NO ONE trusts them any more?

Could it be that they've promised to support their neighbors while stabbing them in the back with the support of terrorist activity at the same time to fit their own agenda?

Originally posted by Deetermined

Originally posted by hmdphantom

They(US and Israel) don't want to help us and they don't care about our freedom.

They just care about their money and their agendas ( like one world government).

Please tell me why most of your neighboring countries don't support Iran either.

Could it be that they've promised to support their neighbors while stabbing them in the back with the support of terrorist activity at the same time to fit their own agenda?

because Iran has picked on a big enemy which they have been scared of.

Could it be that they've been playing both sides of the fence for too long and NO ONE trusts them any more?

You mean with Zionists ?

Could it be that they've promised to support their neighbors while stabbing them in the back with the support of terrorist activity at the same time to fit their own agenda?

Your talking about agendas.

Maybe you could tell me about agendas of Zionists ?

The ones who took lands and made themselves our neighbor.

The one who are after their Nile till Furat plan. Then they want the whole universe.

This is just their ambition and won't come true.

reply to post by hmdphantom


There is no "Nile till Furat Plan" as you say. No, they do not want to take over the whole universe.

This is Iran propaganda that's been fed to you in order to move Israel out of the Middle East.

It wouldn't matter if Israel settled for their current borders because your country won't be happy until they move out of the Middle East altogether, and we both know it. And we both know it's because they're not Muslim. Just because Israel doesn't want to divide Jerusalem doesn't mean they're trying to take over the whole universe, or even the Middle East for that matter.

reply to post by daaskapital

You don't think that the US and Israel fund terrorist groups? Israel funded a militia group to strike Turkey remember. Turkish citizens succumbed to attacks perpetrated by Israeli funded militia.

You do know that it is a lie,right? Israel never supported PKK - unlike Palestinains and Syrians. Oh, and Iranians,for a while.
Israeli supported and supports Kurds in Iraq, yes. But PKK is not in Iraq.

2) No, it did not end the war. At the time, both Germany and Japan were very much feeling the effects of war, in fact Japan (By memory) was going to pull out of the war 2 days after the Nukes hit.

Again - either a lie or simple ignorance. Hiroshima was bombed on 6th of august. On 8th of august Japan did not surrender, contrary to your weird info.
So on 9th of August second bomb was dropped on Nagasaki. Could the war have been won without the nukes? Yes. Was Japan going to surrender? No. They wanted a peace treaty with terms US public or government were not going to agree to. Once it was clear that Japan would not surrender it was either ground invasion option costing lots of American (and Japanese lifes) or nuke that would save a lot of American lives and show Soviet Union that US has new toys. The choice for cynical politicians was pretty clear and i do not know what you or me would have chosen in that time. The US politicians were only cynical but pragmatic and sane and they went for nuke, Iranian leaders are relegious fanatics without any pragmatism, openly declaring the desire to bring the end of the world. You can safely say they will not go for nuke if Israel refuses to be "cut out"?

PS: The nukes were used ny the US as a means of flexing it's muscles, and look where that got the world, to the brink of destruction, with the Cold War and the Nuclear arms race.

Actually the use of nukes and the horrible results were the desicive factors that no nukes were used during the war. If you are not aware, Soviet Union was allready working on Atomic bomb and the people who eventually passed the info to Soviet Union made them get the bomb sooner, but they would have get it anyway. Nuclear amrs race is a part of technological progress. And without knowing what it could do to ones civilian population the desire to push the button would be pretty strong.

reply to post by daaskapital

You don't think that the US and Israel fund terrorist groups? Israel funded a militia group to strike Turkey remember. Turkish citizens succumbed to attacks perpetrated by Israeli funded militia.

You do know that it is a lie,right? Israel never supported PKK - unlike Palestinains and Syrians. Oh, and Iranians,for a while.
Israeli supported and supports Kurds in Iraq, yes. But PKK is not in Iraq.

2) No, it did not end the war. At the time, both Germany and Japan were very much feeling the effects of war, in fact Japan (By memory) was going to pull out of the war 2 days after the Nukes hit.

Again - either a lie or simple ignorance. Hiroshima was bombed on 6th of august. On 8th of august Japan did not surrender, contrary to your weird info.
So on 9th of August second bomb was dropped on Nagasaki. Could the war have been won without the nukes? Yes. Was Japan going to surrender? No. They wanted a peace treaty with terms US public or government were not going to agree to. Once it was clear that Japan would not surrender it was either ground invasion option costing lots of American (and Japanese lifes) or nuke that would save a lot of American lives and show Soviet Union that US has new toys. The choice for cynical politicians was pretty clear and i do not know what you or me would have chosen in that time. The US politicians were only cynical but pragmatic and sane and they went for nuke, Iranian leaders are relegious fanatics without any pragmatism, openly declaring the desire to bring the end of the world. You can safely say they will not go for nuke if Israel refuses to be "cut out"?

PS: The nukes were used ny the US as a means of flexing it's muscles, and look where that got the world, to the brink of destruction, with the Cold War and the Nuclear arms race.

Actually the use of nukes and the horrible results were the desicive factors that no nukes were used during the war. If you are not aware, Soviet Union was allready working on Atomic bomb and the people who eventually passed the info to Soviet Union made them get the bomb sooner, but they would have get it anyway. Nuclear amrs race is a part of technological progress. And without knowing what it could do to ones civilian population the desire to push the button would be pretty strong.

reply to post by hmdphantom

The ones who took lands and made themselves our neighbor.

Israel is not Iranian neighbor, it has no border with Iran. As for retutning to our land - well, it was ruled by Britain prior to it. If in 1948 nobody would go for religious lunacy and demand to cut the Zionists out, there would be no refugees and there was already a Palestine state and Israel both, since 1948. But you do not care about Palestinians, you could not care less what Muslim coutntry would hold the area as long as it would not be Jewish. The same pressure got Palestinians to where they are now, 2012 and still no state.
Fake tears are fake. Iran does not invest in Palestinian infustructure, only in Palestinian militias and terrorists. Just as in Lebanon it funds Hizbollah and not helps Lebanon after the war Hizbollah caused.

The one who are after their Nile till Furat plan. Then they want the whole universe.

Really? Look at the map. It should help. Since 1970s Israel is shrinking. There hundreds of millions of people living between Nile and Ephrat and like 14 million Jews world wide , vast majority of whom do not care about anything rather then live normal life. Maybe you can get few thousand Jewish religioius fanatics who indeed dream of greater Israel, but their are nowhere near Israeli leadership - unlike in your country hwere religious fanatics are at the power.

This is just their ambition and won't come true.

It is very easy to put yuor words in other people mouth and then deny it. I explain you again, there are maybe few thousand Israelis that want (not to speak about trying to do anything about getting) borders of what is called greater Israel. There are Muslims who want Spain as their own. And? Are they majority? And how many of those who do want Spain , are actually doing anything about it?

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge

You do know that it is a lie,right? Israel never supported PKK - unlike Palestinains and Syrians. Oh, and Iranians,for a while

OK.K was just a radical group and Iran never supported them.

After Islamic Revolution there where tensions in Kurdish regions , but Iran settles them down.

And after that , they (P.KK) were enemies.

But PKK is not in Iraq.

Just as real as Zionists are not in US , they are in Israel.

Israel is not Iranian neighbor, it has no border with Iran.

YES ,

But after they take over the Whole Israe , they will go after their bigger plan.

2nd plan is to expand from Nile (a river in Egypt ) till Furat ( a river in Iraq)

3rd plan is the whole universe . To make their one world government and make none-Zionists as slaves or servants. ( The Jews who don't support them should be killed by then)

Zionists are helping Kurds in Iraq and they are about to accomplish their 2nd plan.

But they will never make their unjust one world govt.

Look at the map. It should help. Since 1970s Israel is shrinking.

Your right:

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by hmdphantom

 

There is no "Nile till Furat Plan" as you say. No, they do not want to take over the whole universe.

This is Iran propaganda that's been fed to you in order to move Israel out of the Middle East.

It wouldn't matter if Israel settled for their current borders because your country won't be happy until they move out of the Middle East altogether, and we both know it. And we both know it's because they're not Muslim. Just because Israel doesn't want to divide Jerusalem doesn't mean they're trying to take over the whole universe, or even the Middle East for that matter.

Then why is Israel helping Kurds in Iraq ?

What was the plan to take over Iraq.

I mean thee plan. the real plan.

Is USA going to leave Iraq ?

NO.

reply to post by hmdphantom

Your right:

I know i am right. The maps you show are irrelevent to Israeli borders - they do not even pretend to show borders of states. There was no Palestinian state in 1946 nor Israel, what it shows in green? Land owned by Palestinian non-Jews (but even there it is wrong since British governemnt owned the land nobody owned. Who owns Iranian desert - Mr X or Iranian state? And yet here Negev desert and Judean desert with less then thousand of people who were nomads living there at the time is all green. ) There was no Palestinian state in 1947-1948 because partition plan was rejected by Arab states and leaders of Palestinians.
There was no Palestinian state between 1949 and 1967 because the green-colored land was owned by Egypt and Jordan and they did not create Palestinian state.
But on real maps after 1967 - Israel had Sinai. It no longer has it since 1970s since it gave it to Egypt in peace agreements. Correct me if i am wrong but Sinai peninsula is between Nile and Ephrat. Pretty close to Nile,actually.
Israel is no longer in South Lebanon. Again - between Nile and Ephrat, isn't it?
Israel allowed Palestinian autonomy with majority of territories under direct control of this autonomy, that neither Egypt nor Jordan gave the Palestinians. Palestinian autonomy land is between Nile and Ephrat, isn't it?
Israel withdrawn from Gaza where Jews lived before 1948, now there is none. And it is between Nile and Ephrat.
So what are you talking about?Settlements? If you gather all Israeli settlements they are much much smaller in area then even Gaza.
Just look at the maps of Israel in 1969, for example. Real map, in political atlas and not propaganda site. Check when Israel was bigger - then or now. It will make you feel warm and fuzzy, i promiss. Doubt that you will stop speaking about Israel and how it wants to occupy Teheran.