Study says racists and conservatives are dumb

reply to post by charles1952


There is another way to look at it. You are saying that those that go to university are influenced by their professors etc. On the other hand its more likely these days that those that go to university will come from family backgrounds with money - correct me if I'm wrong but Republicans are more likely to have money than Democrats aren't they?

Speaking as somebody who went to university I didn't change my political beliefs when there and professors didn't influence me in that way. What was interesting was to be concerned with / directly affected by student issues. Perhaps this makes students more likely to sympathise with one party more than another, but that is the fault of the party that doesn't persude student friendly policies.

The populations that have the lowest IQs are blacks and Hispanics, who are mainly liberal.

This study has been debunked:

cofcc.org...

reply to post by AlexIR


You don't need a study to know that.

Any body who is even somewhat intelligent knows this.

The Problem is that a lot of these people are in positions of power and influence.....which they should not be..

reply to post by freethinker123

Dear freethinker123,

What a wonderful post! You've given me a lot to think about.

You're right that income is something to look at, and that most (if not all) rich kids will go to college. But I do hear a lot of screaming about college loans, and that makes me think there are a lot of poorer kids there, too. I suppose money also helps steer people to a certain kind of college, the rich to Ivy League, the poor to state schools.

I don't know if Republicans are more likely to have money, you may be right but I'm not sure at the moment how to find out. I'll dig around a little. Oh, one other thing about college. Women have been getting more and more degrees. I understand that they are now getting the majority of graduate degrees. That may influence colleges, women test out as more liberal than men.

The influence of student issues on you is interesting. I only recall three types of issues: getting more of my expenses paid for by the government (lower tuition), routine administrative stuff like better parking, and the grand social issues; war, drugs, sex in the dorms, the abuse of poor people in some country I had never heard of, saving the planet, stuff like that. The interesting part was that they looked just like training sessions for liberal protesters and bloggers. Which came first, the students who chose liberal causes over conservative ones? (I don't think so, I don't remember conservative social causes getting much publicity.) Or did the faculty and student groups create causes to draw the students in? I don't know.

And all of that doesn't start to touch on the racism issue. There is a ton of looking left to be done. Is a study supposed to create more questions than it answers?

With respect,
Charles1952

LMAO!

Does anyone see the irony of this study?

The entire argument and conclusions are stereotyping a class of individuals.

If the same study were done on a group of blacks, it would be a racist study.



Everyone is racist to a certain degree, so what does that tell us?

I think the ambiguous terms chosen for this study were extremely narrow minded, but maybe someone was trying to keep their grant money flowing.

different news source, but yours and the one i posted quote the same study.
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'Studies' show liberals have lower self-esteem and are less happy. That would explain why they pathetically go out of their way to put together BS studies. It gives them an excuse to pat themselves on the back and have a false sense of security.

Again, how do you explain that the racial groups with the lowest IQs tend to be liberal? With blacks, it's over 90%.

Who funded the study?

Originally posted by LadySkadi
Who funded the study?

Rockefeller, probably

(second line)

heh, if this is true, does that means Africans are more racist, connect the dots

A study that stereotypes two groups of people in a negative light...and that's science? Science?

I think not. It's, at best, pseudo-scientific claptrap. Make a hypothesis, and then make sure your tests all prove it...never allowing any contradictory evidence to possibly skew your results...

Science? Not hardly.

...and yes, I'm ever so slightly conservative.

This is pretty obvious, look at some of the ignorance that gets spewed on ATS from right wing and so called conservatives: a ton of dog whistling and blatant racism. Which is silently co signed by some of the mods that look the other way when that stuff gets posted.

reply to post by illuminatislave

May I say that I am extremely glad that the mods sometime look the other way when ignorance is spewed? Just look at some of my posts and you'll see why I am grateful for their occasional mercy.

But you bring up another point. Of course, conservatives will say there is a lot of ignorance spewed from the left-wing and so-called liberals. May I suggest that you undertake a study counting the number of ignorant posts, determine their political orientaiton, and present a conclusion? There might be university funding in it for you.

Originally posted by seagull
A study that stereotypes two groups of people in a negative light...and that's science? Science?

I think not. It's, at best, pseudo-scientific claptrap. Make a hypothesis, and then make sure your tests all prove it...never allowing any contradictory evidence to possibly skew your results...

Science? Not hardly.

...and yes, I'm ever so slightly conservative.

LOL, I agree....'science'.... ????? NOT!

I think perhaps really, one of the reasons we see so called 'studies' like this is to keep the whole 'liberal/conservative' so called 'left' vs so called 'right' game alive. It serves the manipulators of the whole charade well. Divide and conquer to infinity.

True intelligence isn't measured by an IQ test. I have known geniuses that were among the stupidest people I've known. And I know people that can't write that are among the wisest.

That said, the fact that most Christians are conservatives, would make their hypocrisy kind of prove the point of the article.

reply to post by illuminatislave


Man, when you called yourself illuminatislave, you weren't kidding, were you?

(Second Line)

Originally posted by sligtlyskeptical
True intelligence isn't measured by an IQ test. I have known geniuses that were among the stupidest people I've known. And I know people that can't write that are among the wisest.

That said, the fact that most Christians are conservatives, would make their hypocrisy kind of prove the point of the article.

Yes, it could be said they're are many different kinds of 'intelligence' and too many different 'brains' within the ' single human brain'. I seem to sense too there are some 'very well educated'(at least speaking comparitively) 'rascists' and people that learn to hate based on stereotypes.It's probably largely IMO a evolutionary defense mechanism, perhaps 'usefull' in the far distant past, but one that seems a throwback to a culture that wants to advance. And too 'racism' (and it's cousins) is used by the top of the Pyramid to keep the serfs from ever bonding together.

I can't say for sure most 'Christians are conservative', (those labels just don't seem usefull or relative to me these days) though they certainly seem to be portrayed that way by the kept press who furnish the images and talking heads for political reasons, but in my life I have mostly known 'Christians' who believe in the very tolerant, compassionate and forgiving Christ figure's message and tried to live acccordingly. I guess perhaps I don't watch enough 'religious' TV or listen to enough 'religious' radio to buy the furnished stereotypes, and don't run in the circles with perhaps any 'Elitist" (so called) *christians*.

reply to post by Tecumte

Yes, it could be said they're are many different kinds of 'intelligence'

Oh, are we talking about "Kicking a Ball" intelligence?

Is that what we are back to now?



That's rich, really.

So, what you are saying, is that people who kick a ball for a living, are just as smart as those who can create world changing inventions.....

Right?

Nice... Shows where you stand on the issue, doesn't it?

OH, by the way, the Theory of multiple intelligences has been thoroughly debunked... not like you would know, since truth isn't your "Forte"

Originally posted by theubermensch
reply to post by AlexIR

 

TextAre you a white supremacist? I don't think that hating another person because of his color or religion denotes intelligence.

Wild conclusions/accusations do not denote intelligence.

I can tell you are a liberal though.

The person you replied to did not make an accusation or come to a conclusion. They ASKED if another member was a white supremacist...You on the other hand DID make an accusation.

So, in your own words "wild conclusions/accusations do not denote intelligence."

I think this study is biased crap,but you...You aren't exactly helping to prove it wrong.


That said this "study" is not science. It's just an excuse to label people and to cast certain groups in bad light. There is no room for bias in real science and this "study" is biased as can be.

Why this constant need to label and group people who happen to have different political ideologies, is beyond me.
The inherent bias within this study refutes the claims they are making.

Any free thinker here (on ATS) should be laughing at this story.

Anyone who endorses the authors of this study has already labeled themselves.

In my humble opinion, of course.