One Million Moms rally at JcPenny's to fire Ellen Degeneres for being GAY!

WOW! It looks like CNN actually suspended Roland Martin for his homophobic tweets during the Super Bowl.

The tide is definitely turning. Businesses are taking a stand against the hate.

JCP takes a stand for Ellen. CNN - - takes a stand against one of their popular commentators.

“Roland Martin’s tweets were regrettable and offensive. Language that demeans is inconsistent with the values and culture of our organization, and is not tolerated. We have been giving careful consideration to this matter, and Roland will not be appearing on our air for the time being.” www.washingtonpost.com...

for all you kids hollering from the peanut gallery

you want to turn this into a right to protest, right to speak issue - but nobody (but NOBODY) is arguing that they don't have the right to protest

give it up

what people are telling you (and showing you) is that this Million Busybodies group - and every other hate group in the country - is being outshouted

read it and weep - the times - they are a changing

what exactly is it that you think you are protecting your children from?

how is being treated like everyone else in any way a special privilege?

I haven't heard one single intelligent explanation of either view yet - not anywhere in this thread

you can try and make it sound like we're denying them their right to speak all you want, but what you just won't admit is - no one is taking them seriously anymore

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That article says GLAAD told people to call CNN and complain.

So GLAAD gets to censor speech and NOM does not get to protest.

See Annie what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Annee, children don't need to have class after class of propaganda focused on this subject.

I took the time to read some of your other posts - - - trying to get a better feel of where you are coming from.

Almost all of your posts are about Communism. You are government paranoid.

It seems to me - - no matter what a government school teaches other then the "3Rs" - - - and flag waving - - - you would object.

It is my experience and opinion that - - primary grades have done a good job in socializing children - - especially in necessary cases of combating racist and extremely religious parents.

Society is an important aspect of government. Division by unwelcomed and extreme thought parents - - does not support a progressive next generation.

People can be of Independent thought and still be congenial in society by respecting others and differences. And it starts with children.

That is my response to government paranoia.

DO NOT respond with more government - communist - fascist - - whatever. I'm not interested.

My focus is and has been Equal Rights of a Minority.

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good for the goose good for the gander

The archdiocese should be able to send priests in to the schoolrooms to give the children lessons in sensitivity to not hurt Christians' feelings because they have been so spit upon by the radical left atheists. They must have classes on a weekly basis and the parents cannot opt out or they will be arrested on site.
There how's that buddy!

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OH right except for the posts I just made on the Montessori Method and child pedagogy.

Yes, a good deal of what is going on in the world is spun right out of the Communist Manifesto, or the Humanist Manifesto. Everything Barack is doing is Marxist in some way. Wealth redistribution, forcing citizens to purchase health insurance or be fined via collection by the IRS(one of the most dastardly things since the Federal Reserve Act was passed by Congress), nationalizing the auto industy, the financial sector, and health and energy too, giving tax dollars to foreign socialized oil company Petrobas while putting a moratorium on offshore drilling for US companies,the list goes on Annie.
It's happening and it's socialist which is a bridge to communism.
Yes I will fight it till my end of days.

But you see Annie, I understand that different names have been applied to the same Totalitarian agenda. Whatever ism makes you think you are on the high ground Annie.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Spiramirabilis

 

good for the goose good for the gander

The archdiocese should be able to send priests in to the schoolrooms to give the children lessons in sensitivity to not hurt Christians' feelings because they have been so spit upon by the radical left atheists. They must have classes on a weekly basis and the parents cannot opt out or they will be arrested on site.
There how's that buddy!

childish - if you must know

but I'll toss you a bone - it wouldn't hurt to have kids learn not to trample on the rights of others

that's all that's been happening in the schools with any of this - but you see it as persecution of the Christians?

maybe this is how it feels because they don't hold all the cards anymore - but nothing could be further from the truth

we are moving (though not fast enough for me) away from a time where everything is set up and controlled by any one group or religion

it stings when you lose your special place in the sun, I'm sure - but it is not the same thing as being persecuted

and here:
www.usingenglish.com...

read it - hopefully you'll see the nice little bit of irony

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
OH right except for the posts I just made on the Montessori Method and child pedagogy.

My daughters church (spiritual - positive thought) has a Montessori school in it. Kind of scary.

But where did that come from? Its a private and very expensive school. Parents choice.

Not going to address politics.

reply to post by Spiramirabilis


No more childish than promoting an entire sexual agenda to stop bullying. Get real. You haven't a leg to stand on., and like every true radical you think your rights are more equal than everyone else's.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
OH right except for the posts I just made on the Montessori Method and child pedagogy.

My daughters church (spiritual - positive thought) has a Montessori school in it. Kind of scary.

But where did that come from? Its a private and very expensive school. Parents choice.

Not going to address politics.

Try as you might, you can't fight me on this. Tell me what is more scary? A lesson plan teaching preschoolers to read or a gay teacher telling kids how they should feel?
Your priorities are so screwed up I just can't find words for it.

You obviously know nothing of Montessori or you would not be so glib about it. It's just an expensive preschool to you, but you can spend the same amount on a day care which pretends at being Montessor, or is mostly babysitting.
And right, your choice. And it was my choice as a parent.
Some Montessoris go up to at least 8th grade.
I think you have selective reading too. You see what you want to see.
At least the Monessori Method is scientific.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
OH right except for the posts I just made on the Montessori Method and child pedagogy.

My daughters church (spiritual - positive thought) has a Montessori school in it. Kind of scary.

But where did that come from? Its a private and very expensive school. Parents choice.

Not going to address politics.

Where it came from was you acting as if raising children makes you some kind of queen of pedagogy and gives you some authority to tell everyone else their kids have to be subjected to propaganda to make you feel like you are doing something grand for mankind.

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we are moving (though not fast enough for me) away from a time where everything is set up and controlled by any one group or religion

You are clearly not understanding the ramifications of Statist ideology controlling the schoolrooms, or you like Big Govt.

I also posted statements that show the agenda was to use school safety as the inroad to get the agenda into the schoolrooms. Likely you missed it because of shooting from the hip at my posts.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
You see, I had the wonderful privelege of being in a training class with Dr Elizabeth Caspari, who herself worked with Dr Montessori in India. I read Dr Montessori's books on pedagogy, something I'm sure you've never done.

I just love these assumptions and attempts of put downs.

My older daughter was ADD way back in 1971. Is there any primary educational material I haven't read? Doubt it.

My grandson is borderline on the Autism spectrum.

So I'm sure you've heard of:

Reggio Emilia
Bev Bos
Waldorf/Steiner
Ruth Beaglehole
Alfie Kohn
Daniel Siegel
Joseph Chilton Pearce
Naomi Aldort
Marshall Rosenberg

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I admit I haven't looked into Autism, however that still doesn't account for your inexplicable notion that all children must be spoon fed an agenda just for sexual identification of a certain group of people. Again, that's your crusade and it doesn't make it right. It's inexplicable to me that anyone, you included, feel it's appropriate at all.
Just no words for it.

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Speaking of putdowns, weren't you the one trying to datamine to find out my educational background and age and so on, trying to find some way to beat up on me? Yes, Annie I knew what you were doing.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Annee

 

I admit I haven't looked into Autism, however that still doesn't account for your inexplicable notion that all children must be spoon fed an agenda just for sexual identification of a certain group of people.

Your interpretation. And your wordage.

Slightly slanted.

reply to post by Spiramirabilis


See, you can't even admit that it's the exact same principle can you? You still came back at me with the same balogna that your issue of control makes more sense than the scenario I just described. You can't admit that is exactly what the left did to the Christians, and is still doing.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Annee

 

Speaking of putdowns, weren't you the one trying to datamine to find out my educational background and age and so on, trying to find some way to beat up on me? Yes, Annie I knew what you were doing.

No not at all.

Educational background? When was that.

As said - - often in these discussion - - I find out the person I've been talking to is in their 20s. Nothing wrong with someone in their 20s - - but their perspective is different - - because they really haven't experienced life yet (in most cases).

Just wanted to know what "level of life experience" - - to get an idea of perspective.

Quite reasonable - actually.

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well annee, coming from a communist who uses fascim to get their will over others, all you have done is tell us your opinion based on anecdotal soundbites that seek emotional responses using your family and far left wing sources hoping to sell a view that sensationalizes things. You should be offended by Third eyeof horus upstaging you in education and experience and examples that show what a complete fabrication your argument is and to think exposing your arg for what it is is ...well....funny.
You tried the experience card, you got upstaged. You plead on emotions, you got exposed. You cry foul for being labeled with the ideologies you espouse, you want to end the discussion about it.
It plainly shows you really truly bring nothing to the table but hyperbole and inuendo hoping you can get some of it to stick but the facts remain.
These moms are not members of the kkk or anything of the sort, instead your brand of fascism becomes the means to an end for an ideology that was present in nazi germany.
So of course you cry foul.
The bolshevick's sought the same ends to a means and as a result 20 million Christians were murdered...or was it 80 million?
Government, our government isn't the problem here annee...the corruption within it and the people is the problem.
It matters little how you try and sugar coat it, it is what it is and it matters little if you deny it or don't want to talk about it.
Fascism is alive and well in this thread and communist ideals are infecting the schools and our childrens minds in an attempt to destroy our children from the earliest possible point of indoctrination possible.

CHILDREN DO NOT NEED TO BE TAUGHT ABOUT SEX BEFORE PUBERTY. tHEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT!
You have every right to hurt your children in this way.
It's sad and immoral but it's your LEGAL right. Thirdeye has clearly shown you your errors and given you the sources for the ideology and they are communists and fascists and you OBVIOUSLY embrace it.
It matters little to you that the usa has gone from the best in the world for education to somewhere near rock bottom graduating kids dead last in math and science, but they feel good about themselves because of what is taught, what you feel is the important things to be taught.
We are heading into the Greatest Depression as a result and what is worst is that we have a generation coming out that has no clue how to work themselves out of it because they do not know how we got into it....but they feel good about it.
There is no accountability from our leaders because there is no accountabilty to ourselves or our children as we have given it to the state to govern themselves and us as they see fit.
You like it, I don't.
Moral character is something that is now taught as something subjective and the moral principles that used to be taught were and are absolutes and found within the Bible and was the source of wisdom and the root of liberty in the Magna Carta, The Declaration of Independance and the Constitution with the Bill of Rights.
All these documents were based on the teachings of Jesus the Messiah, Yahshayah HaMashiach and the Bible as absolutes. All our courts were common law courts that were based on the same, using Blackstones law.

What was the principle and core values that made this country the greatest country that ever existed bringing liberty to the world as a shining light on a hill has been subverted in your lifetime and you relish in this fact.

The people you demonize are the same type of people that are your benefactors for the liberties you take for granted and exploit for your feel good ideologies.

You are wrong, we are right.
Communism and Fascism IS the ideology you espouse here in method and the examples you use prove it.

So it matters little if you don't want to discuss it, why should you want to be labeled in the same way you do it to the moms and dads you are demonizing? The only difference is you use anecdotes and inuendo and we have used the facts.
So really, who cares if you don't want to discuss the reality of who and what the authors of the ideology you are championing for?
It's facts and they have been presented to you for all the world to see. I guess the anecdotes that will matter to this arg for us all, since you keep bringing it up as the evidence that makes your opinion matter over anyone that has real credentials to support their ideals is your children.
You use them for your args as proof.
So, are your kids going to find happiness?
Will your daughters find a real man, one that will cherish her as the fine work of art her Creator made her as? Or will she chase the father figure she was denied? Will your sons objectify women because they see sex as nothing about bonding in union with marriage but use sex freely as nothing but pleasure from the women that are lost without morals toguidethem

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
. . . a gay teacher telling kids how they should feel?

And what would be the difference between a gay teacher or straight teacher in telling kids how they should feel?

Who tells someone how they SHOULD feel?

You really lost me on this one.